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Star Wars Hotel Price - Disney has officially lost their minds

I guess my question would be this:. SWGE didn't get the attendance or reception that Disney was hoping for. And that's much cheaper than Star Wars hotel. So why do people think Star Wars hotel will perform better? Am I missing something?
 
When they first announced this hotel the estimate was $1100 per night and I thought that was crazy when I assumed it was per room. Now that I know it is per person there is no way we could ever be able to swing it.
 
I guess my question would be this:. SWGE didn't get the attendance or reception that Disney was hoping for. And that's much cheaper than Star Wars hotel. So why do people think Star Wars hotel will perform better? Am I missing something?
Apparently Disneyland is very much a locals park and Disney were very aggressive in excluding season pass holders. So with no locals going, no one went.

WDW on the other hand is a destination park for tourists.

Or so some articles I have read claimed.
 
I guess my question would be this:. SWGE didn't get the attendance or reception that Disney was hoping for. And that's much cheaper than Star Wars hotel. So why do people think Star Wars hotel will perform better? Am I missing something?

I’m not a SW fan, but it hasn’t even opened yet in WDW so I don’t think it’s fair to say that yet. WDW is a destination for tourists from all over the world in a way that DL isn’t, so I think GE in WDW will be better received and attended.

I’m also in the group of people who doesn’t believe anything that comes from that particular site.
 
Apparently Disneyland is very much a locals park and Disney were very aggressive in excluding season pass holders. So with no locals going, no one went.

WDW on the other hand is a destination park for tourists.

Or so some articles I have read claimed.
I’m not a SW fan, but it hasn’t even opened yet in WDW so I don’t think it’s fair to say that yet. WDW is a destination for tourists from all over the world in a way that DL isn’t, so I think GE in WDW will be better received and attended.

I’m also in the group of people who doesn’t believe anything that comes from that particular site.

I get what you guys are saying but some people are making the claim that there are Star Wars nuts who will do or pay anything Star Wars related. So if they are willing to part with $3,300 at a minimum for a 3 day stay at Star Wars hotel, why wouldn't they pay $400 or $500 for a flight to see SWGE when it first opened?
 
With all the big data available to Disney, I’m sure they’re going to keep fine-tuning their model and analyzing it until they hit the exact amount that is the highest price people will pay yet still gets the occupancy they want. That price will change once the hotel novelty wears off, if we go into a recession, or for other reasons. But there’s so much data available now for Disney to analyze, and they’re only going to get better at forecasting. The price is going to be a reflection of how much people are actually willing to pay.

The low crowds in Disneyland due to SWGE were a surprise, and a good reminder that even the smartest computers can’t predict the future. But unlike the park where crowds could show up to buy a same-day ticket, hotels are usually booked in advance. It should be easier for Disney to forecast the hotel capacity in advance and offer discounts or raise prices accordingly.
 
I get what you guys are saying but some people are making the claim that there are Star Wars nuts who will do or pay anything Star Wars related. So if they are willing to part with $3,300 at a minimum for a 3 day stay at Star Wars hotel, why wouldn't they pay $400 or $500 for a flight to see SWGE when it first opened?

I think plenty of them did. It wasn’t like it was deserted in Disneyland once it opened fully without reservations, and I’m sure that many of them were there in the first couple of days with hotel reservations. Do also remember that Disney managed access to the Land very strictly. Plus, I’m sure there were plenty of people who would want to avoid the crowds, but that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t pay to stay in the hotel.

The friends I mentioned who have been saving up for the SW hotel since it was announced and who can easily afford the quoted price, did not go to California for the opening day. They watched it on YouTube so they didn’t have to deal with the crowds. They are doing GE in WDW at the end of the year with a VIP Tour, provided as part of their Club 33 membership.

I think you may be underestimating the amount of money that is around in Disney. $7000 is perfectly affordable to plenty of Disney guests, and some of them will want to stay in the SW hotel. It’s not affordable to everyone, but nor is Disney. However, people fall over themselves to buy DVC and join Club 33, so I don’t see there being a shortage of people who want to stay in the SW hotel, at least in the first couple of years when it’s new and interesting.
 
As a point of comparison, you can get an overwater bungalow in the Maldives for approximately $1,000 a night. So for 3 days, would I rather go to the Maldives or Star Wars hotel. Gee, such a tough choice.

Yes, for you it’s a no brainier, but for plenty of people, the answer of “Disney” is equally obvious. Plus, it’s a little disingenuous to compare the two locations for US guests, as airfairs are a huge cost.

I’m really not nearly as invested as I feel I appear. I probably won’t stay in it, as I just don’t care enough. I do, however, think that plenty of others will be happy to take my place there. There is serious money in the Disney fan group, though they don’t necessarily shout about it.
 
I think plenty of them did. It wasn’t like it was deserted in Disneyland once it opened fully without reservations, and I’m sure that many of them were there in the first couple of days with hotel reservations. Do also remember that Disney managed access to the Land very strictly. Plus, I’m sure there were plenty of people who would want to avoid the crowds, but that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t pay to stay in the hotel.

The friends I mentioned who have been saving up for the SW hotel since it was announced and who can easily afford the quoted price, did not go to California for the opening day. They watched it on YouTube so they didn’t have to deal with the crowds. They are doing GE in WDW at the end of the year with a VIP Tour, provided as part of their Club 33 membership.

I think you may be underestimating the amount of money that is around in Disney. $7000 is perfectly affordable to plenty of Disney guests, and some of them will want to stay in the SW hotel. It’s not affordable to everyone, but nor is Disney. However, people fall over themselves to buy DVC and join Club 33, so I don’t see there being a shortage of people who want to stay in the SW hotel, at least in the first couple of years when it’s new and interesting.

With all due respect to your friends, if they have a Club 33 membership, they are in the top .01% of Disney lovers. You say I'm underestimating the amount of money that is around in Disney, I think you're overestimating it. Perhaps we can meet somewhere in the middle. DVC isn't really comparable to a 3 day stay at a novelty hotel. And as I said earlier, Club 33 places people in the .01% of Disney guests so that's not really a barometer of what the future holds for this hotel.
 
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With all due respect to your friends, if they have a Club 33 membership, they are in the top .01% of Disney lovers. You say I'm underestimating the amount of money that is around in Disney, I think you're overestimating it. Perhaps we can meet somewhere in the middle. DVC isn't really comparable to a 3 day stay at a novelty hotel. And as I said earlier, Club 33 places people in the .01% of Disney guests so that's not really a barometer of what the future holds for this hotel.

I’m not saying that DVC is comparable, I’m saying that it requires serious money: we were quoted a purchase price of almost $75,000 for DVC 10 months ago. It’s not cheap. Someone is buying DVC. Someone is joining Club 33, taking VIP Tours, staying in the bungalows at the Poly, sailing Concierge on the cruises, and all the other premium experiences that Disney overcharges people for.

We are only talking about $7000 here. Yes, it’s a lot of money, but it’s not an obscene amount. The question is whether people will consider the hotel to be a good use of that money, and some will - we all find value in different things.
 
I’m not saying that DVC is comparable, I’m saying that it requires serious money: we were quoted a purchase price of almost $75,000 for DVC 10 months ago. It’s not cheap. Someone is buying DVC. Someone is joining Club 33, taking VIP Tours, staying in the bungalows at the Poly, sailing Concierge on the cruises, and all the other premium experiences that Disney overcharges people for.

We are only talking about $7000 here. Yes, it’s a lot of money, but it’s not an obscene amount. The question is whether people will consider the hotel to be a good use of that money, and some will - we all find value in different things.

So far in this thread of back and forth, I've only seen one person say they would stay at this hotel. And the demographics of this site tend to be upper middle class and above. So that's not really awesome although it's a limited sample size. Perhaps I'll start a poll in the future once this news has sunk in a bit.

I don't mean this in an offensive way but saying "we're only talking about $7,000" makes you sound out of touch with the reality of most American households. While $7,000 isn't an obscene amount of money, I suspect most people could find a better use for it than a 3 day stay at a Star Wars hotel.

Again, I'm not saying the hotel will be completely empty. And I think it will be booked solid for the first few months for the novelty factor. I think it will take a nosedive after. And, yes, Disney can adjust prices if they need to but if they do, then that would prove that they missed the mark on the price point.
 
That's ridiculous. DH and I are going to Europe for two weeks in October, flying business class with lie flat seats in BOTH directions, taking trains, renting a combination of hotels and airbnbs. Food will be "on top" of what I've paid. but all in, so far, it's less than 3 nights for two people at this proposed Disney boondoggle. Seriously? Are people insane?
 
Not sure either of those trips will be any cheaper.

My last two trips to Europe with a family of 4 cost $12000 each. Each trip was 10-16 days. When traveling that far, the trip needs to be longer to get value for the dollars spent.

Possibly, however -- have never been to Italy or Australia - there would be three of us - I guess my point is that for the insane amount of money being charged for just the hotel, I would put that money towards another destination
 
That's ridiculous. DH and I are going to Europe for two weeks in October, flying business class with lie flat seats in BOTH directions, taking trains, renting a combination of hotels and airbnbs. Food will be "on top" of what I've paid. but all in, so far, it's less than 3 nights for two people at this proposed Disney boondoggle. Seriously? Are people insane?

Who wants to go to Europe when you go to the Star Wars hotel :P
 

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