When Disney parks reopen will they be safe enough to visit?

When Disney parks reopen will they be safe enough to visit?

  • Yes

    Votes: 112 44.6%
  • No

    Votes: 39 15.5%
  • Have to review their capacity limits and cleaning guidelines

    Votes: 53 21.1%
  • I'm postponing my visit to later in 2020 /2021.

    Votes: 47 18.7%

  • Total voters
    251
I'm not sure I've read anything that indicates if someone has the virus and gets through it healthy, that they're immune to it. In fact, there have been reports of some people have it reoccur again after they already went through one bout. I'm not a doctor, but I don't think this is like measles or chicken pox- it's more like the "flu", and is something we could get again. It's why we're recommended to have a flu vaccine each year.

The virus is like the flu you can have it once and your done. With that said as with the flu the virus can have multiple strings and you can get infected with each string once. On Iceland they found 40 different Covid-19 strings. On string can be more aggressive than the other.

So if you get infected with the most common string(if there is a such)then your are immune.
 
The virus is like the flu you can have it once and your done. With that said as with the flu the virus can have multiple strings and you can get infected with each string once. On Iceland they found 40 different Covid-19 strings. On string can be more aggressive than the other.

So if you get infected with the most common string(if there is a such)then your are immune.
Oh, my. I'm not sure I wanted to read that. Thanks for the info, I think? I figured, having already been through it, that my immunity was solid. Now guessing, "Not so much; not so fast." Sigh.
 
I honestly don't know. I have a child who is high risk due to unstable/ moderate/ severe asthma and to be frank it literally keeps me awake at night thinking about what happens when we start opening up again in the US. My mantra is that there are no deaths in her age range (14) and she is in fantastic physical shape (competitive gymnast) so I hang on to that. Going to a theme park though...I just don't know. We have AP and a trip planned for May 29- June 8. I just don't know.
 


I honestly don't know. I have a child who is high risk due to unstable/ moderate/ severe asthma and to be frank it literally keeps me awake at night thinking about what happens when we start opening up again in the US. My mantra is that there are no deaths in her age range (14) and she is in fantastic physical shape (competitive gymnast) so I hang on to that. Going to a theme park though...I just don't know. We have AP and a trip planned for May 29- June 8. I just don't know.
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I figure life really isn't safe. Nothing we do that is worthwhile is safe. We have children everyday, which used to be a very unsafe thing. I am also not an idiot and not going to walk down a dark alley in a high crime area waving bills around. So, there's going to be some risk for the reward. Saying that, none of my immediate family is high risk, and we don't visit relatives at risk hardly ever. Knowing the risks of driving a car, I still get in that car every day, without blinking an eye. I have, however, done multiple autoracing schools and high speed driver training. So, I have done some prep, and will do that with the parks or a cruise too.
 


I'm not sure I've read anything that indicates if someone has the virus and gets through it healthy, that they're immune to it. In fact, there have been reports of some people have it reoccur again after they already went through one bout. I'm not a doctor, but I don't think this is like measles or chicken pox- it's more like the "flu", and is something we could get again. It's why we're recommended to have a flu vaccine each year.
It's a strain of virus, you do develop immunity to it just like the flu. When you get the "flu shot" that is a slightly different vaccine from every other year. It is the basic premise upon which our immune systems work.
 
A few things to keep in mind among the throng of social media noise.

1. As a novel virus we all have the POTENTIAL to catch it.
2. As with most Viruses some people will be naturally immune.
3. Most (>85%) of infections do not require hospitalization or supportive medical care.
4. Most deaths are still occurring in people who have comorbid conditions.l over the age of 75.
5. The deaths from COVID19 are still very much below yearly flu deaths each year.
6. We are vastly under testing people , especially people who have mild symptoms. This skews any mortality rate greatly.
7. 2009 H1n1 killed 500,000 internationally and 58,000 in the US in about 1 and 1/2 years.
8. Yearly flu, particularly 2017, kill many more people than covid has. In 2017, 4000 people a week were dying in the US alone, leading to a death toll of 61,000.....for just the US in 6 months.

The reaction we are having to this virus makes no sense at all given the yearly lack of and panic over the past ten years with much worse epidemics.

You are more likely to die in a long car ride to WDW then from this virus.
 
A few things to keep in mind among the throng of social media noise.

1. As a novel virus we all have the POTENTIAL to catch it.
2. As with most Viruses some people will be naturally immune.
3. Most (>85%) of infections do not require hospitalization or supportive medical care.
4. Most deaths are still occurring in people who have comorbid conditions.l over the age of 75.
5. The deaths from COVID19 are still very much below yearly flu deaths each year.
6. We are vastly under testing people , especially people who have mild symptoms. This skews any mortality rate greatly.
7. 2009 H1n1 killed 500,000 internationally and 58,000 in the US in about 1 and 1/2 years.
8. Yearly flu, particularly 2017, kill many more people than covid has. In 2017, 4000 people a week were dying in the US alone, leading to a death toll of 61,000.....for just the US in 6 months.

The reaction we are having to this virus makes no sense at all given the yearly lack of and panic over the past ten years with much worse epidemics.

You are more likely to die in a long car ride to WDW then from this virus.

This virus is more contagious than the regular flu, meaning more people will get it. That also means that more people will eventually die.

Its so easy to say that our reaction is making no sense if you are young and not in the group that would need to be hospitalized or are in risk of dying.

Thing is with the virus being more contagious than the flu we risk that our hospitals are not able to cope with the amount of infected people and some people who we normally would be able to cure now we can't because of lack of equipment at the hospitals.
 
A few things to keep in mind among the throng of social media noise.

1. As a novel virus we all have the POTENTIAL to catch it.
2. As with most Viruses some people will be naturally immune.
3. Most (>85%) of infections do not require hospitalization or supportive medical care.
4. Most deaths are still occurring in people who have comorbid conditions.l over the age of 75.
5. The deaths from COVID19 are still very much below yearly flu deaths each year.
6. We are vastly under testing people , especially people who have mild symptoms. This skews any mortality rate greatly.
7. 2009 H1n1 killed 500,000 internationally and 58,000 in the US in about 1 and 1/2 years.
8. Yearly flu, particularly 2017, kill many more people than covid has. In 2017, 4000 people a week were dying in the US alone, leading to a death toll of 61,000.....for just the US in 6 months.

The reaction we are having to this virus makes no sense at all given the yearly lack of and panic over the past ten years with much worse epidemics.

You are more likely to die in a long car ride to WDW then from this virus.

Sigh. One more time. First of all the number of deaths is not the problem. You are correct that if it were about deaths, then this is an overreaction. It is not .

The problem is that with the flu only 1 or 2 percent that have it need to be hospitalized. With Covid the number is 20 percent. Then 5 percent of those I think need a vent. When people are hospitalized, they need to be for 1 or 2 weeks. Plus, this is so infectious that healthcare workers are getting it in MUCH larger numbers than the flu and some are dying which is very rare with the flu.

You are correct that the death rate is higher among the elderly. However a much bigger percent of those younger are hospitalized. I've been reading their lung function is down 30 percent when they are realeased. We have also seen stories now of healthy teens and young adults getting it and dying sometimes. Thinking this is an old person's disease is a grave error.

The reason we have this reaction is because of the healthcare system. If there are not enough bed and vents, then you don't have them for car accidents and heart attacks. If 20 percent or more of your staff gets the disease, some of which sicken and die on a staff that was already just getting by....

Also, they THINK you build up immunity, because that is what normally happens with a virus, but they haven't been able to prove that yet and this virus has been anything but normal.

THAT is the reason everyone is making such a fuss.
 
I keep hearing this theory that the hospital system will be overrun with cases.
This is just another exaggeration being spread with little evidence to back it up.

In BOTH cases cited above it was a new strain of Flu we were experiencing. BOTH strain we had no immunity too, which is why they were so deadly. In the case of covid there is little evidence to show that it is more infectious then H1n1 or the 2017 H3 flu strains. We did actually have some trouble in 2017 with support care in the hospitals.

We need to stop parroting what we are reading on social media , since all its really doing it amping people into a frenzy panic. Currently most of the “stories” about young people getting it and dying are either internet rumor without sources, or when you investigate , the young person had serious health issues. You have to go beyond that Facebook post to see the reality.
What we should be doing is isolating the susceptible people , elderly and immunocompromised. So that need immunity can take hold in the populations that are NOT at major risk.
It the much more simple and effective that what is happening now.
Now we have “senior only” shopping days???? Who decided that was a good idea? Let’s get the entire risk population in the same place at the same time??? So if one person in that crowd is actively shedding virus......they can all get it?
World leader are making decisions based on media and popular frenzy, not logic.
 
I keep hearing this theory that the hospital system will be overrun with cases.
This is just another exaggeration being spread with little evidence to back it up......(snip)...........
It's already happening in Italy.

New York is two weeks away according to the Governor of NY. At current rates, ICU cases are expected to reach 40,000. The state has 3,000 ICU beds.

I get my info from reputable, established global news sources and medical experts in infectious diseases.
 
We cannot judge our entire country by what’s happening in NY and specifically NYC. We should look there to see what’s working and what isn’t however. There have been numerous fact-based articles on why things are the way they are there. Here’s one: https://news.yahoo.com/density-york-citys-big-enemy-122250555.html

Also, just because someone is young doesn’t mean he doesn’t have heath problems. There are more people than you think with chronic medical issues. How many of you knows someone in their 30’s with hypertension, diabetes, is a smoker, or has heart problems, etc,? I know a handful myself, and I’m one person. Like with any serious illness, age is a factor, but it isn’t the only factor. They are repeatedly stating that if you are older OR have an underlying medical issue, then you are at-risk for developing serious complications with this virus. The older part gets thrown out the window if you have a serious medical issue or issues. While your young age may help you fight it off if you have an underlying issue, you will probably still be very sick.
 
I keep hearing this theory that the hospital system will be overrun with cases.
This is just another exaggeration being spread with little evidence to back it up.

In BOTH cases cited above it was a new strain of Flu we were experiencing. BOTH strain we had no immunity too, which is why they were so deadly. In the case of covid there is little evidence to show that it is more infectious then H1n1 or the 2017 H3 flu strains. We did actually have some trouble in 2017 with support care in the hospitals.

We need to stop parroting what we are reading on social media , since all its really doing it amping people into a frenzy panic. Currently most of the “stories” about young people getting it and dying are either internet rumor without sources, or when you investigate , the young person had serious health issues. You have to go beyond that Facebook post to see the reality.

My husband is a surgeon who is hearing from his friend in the trenches. This is not internet rumor.
 
I honestly don't know. I have a child who is high risk due to unstable/ moderate/ severe asthma and to be frank it literally keeps me awake at night thinking about what happens when we start opening up again in the US. My mantra is that there are no deaths in her age range (14) and she is in fantastic physical shape (competitive gymnast) so I hang on to that. Going to a theme park though...I just don't know. We have AP and a trip planned for May 29- June 8. I just don't know.
You already know the answer, but just in case you need the last nudge: please do not go.

I'll tell you story of a small city in Italy: Bergamo.
The have a soccer team who always did average, they are in first division but always away from having great results. This year they qualified and are playing in the major European tournament for teams, probably the most important in the world. A chance in a lifetime for supporters to watch their team playing at the highest levels. Just after the initial number of cases of Covid19 were found in Italy and it wasn't known how bad the situation was, they played a game in their home stadium against Sevilla. Stadium was packed, people who couldn't get the tickets went to pubs to watch the game, people did parties at home to watch it with friends.
Fast forward one and a half month and the army is taking away the coffins to other cities because there are so many deaths that the incinerators in the Bergamo cannot cope with demand.

Please stay safe.

Oh, BTW Italy has an higher rate of hospital beds per person than the US
 
Disney is the very definition of high density.

Fill in those queue gaps, people. Kids touch everything. Nice monorail compartment, did someone just cough within 6 feet of you?

Even if you have no underlying health issues COVID-19 can be fatal. It can also put you on a respirator for 3 weeks and permanently damage your lungs. There is no solid prediction for immunity or light cases right now.
 
I keep hearing this theory that the hospital system will be overrun with cases.
This is just another exaggeration being spread with little evidence to back it up.

In BOTH cases cited above it was a new strain of Flu we were experiencing. BOTH strain we had no immunity too, which is why they were so deadly. In the case of covid there is little evidence to show that it is more infectious then H1n1 or the 2017 H3 flu strains. We did actually have some trouble in 2017 with support care in the hospitals.

We need to stop parroting what we are reading on social media , since all its really doing it amping people into a frenzy panic. Currently most of the “stories” about young people getting it and dying are either internet rumor without sources, or when you investigate , the young person had serious health issues. You have to go beyond that Facebook post to see the reality.
What we should be doing is isolating the susceptible people , elderly and immunocompromised. So that need immunity can take hold in the populations that are NOT at major risk.
It the much more simple and effective that what is happening now.
Now we have “senior only” shopping days???? Who decided that was a good idea? Let’s get the entire risk population in the same place at the same time??? So if one person in that crowd is actively shedding virus......they can all get it?
World leader are making decisions based on media and popular frenzy, not logic.

You seem like someone I would want to be friends with!
What you wrote above, YES! No need for me to just restate what you've already said.
 

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