Disneyland Reopening Speculation Superthread

You and me both!


I'm in the Bay Area, and I had a similar experience at a doctor's appointment on Monday. I had on a N95 mask and they asked me to put on one of their surgical masks. I just double masked since I wanted the protect of an N95. I double mask a lot to protect my limited # of N95s.
Crazy and no real science behind the changes -- barrier is the primary issue - some better than others.
the two areas where things get into trouble -- KN95/N95 masks - can be too strong and cause breathing issues for sensitive folk masks with valves -- doesn't protect others -- only the wearer and defeats 1/2 the equation on reducing spread.
 
masks with valves -- doesn't protect others -- only the wearer and defeats 1/2 the equation on reducing spread.
Yep, that's an issue in our county. You aren't allowed to enter some stores with valve masks. The easy way to handle that is double masking (or tape).
 
What's wrong with valve masks?
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/certain-type-n95-mask-harm-covid19-spread
https://www.healthing.ca/diseases-a...us/sure-wear-a-mask-just-not-one-with-a-valve

The point of a non-valve cloth or surgical mask is to reduce transmission and protect people from you asymptomatically spreading airborne viruses. The point of a valve mask is to protect yourself. I have some N95's around for fire season. I plan on using that on the plane for myself, then covering it with a surgical mask like the double-masking described above. I may even add a face shield to protect my eyes for fun and to look ridiculous in that situation, although I'll likely just stick to sunglasses. :cool1:
 
What's wrong with valve masks?

The whole point of wearing masks is to prevent your exhaled respiratory droplets from freely circulating in the air. It is not to protect the wearer, but to protect others. The valves allow the air out with no filter, thus negating the barrier protection that the masks are being used for.
 
Do you guys remember how the previous WDW announcements re: re-opening stated stuff like "A resort hotel reservation does not guarantee admission into a park"?

So with this system, that still remains true. Just having the on site hotel reservation doesn't GUARANTEE you admission into a park. It DOES guarantee that at WDW, you'll have an opportunity to make a park reservation before AP holders do. BUT if you do nothing and you do not actually make the park reservation, then you don't get in.

I think it's a pretty fair way of doing things. It puts some responsibility in the hands of the guest.

I also think that WDW has 4 days of on-site resort guest priority reservations before the WDW AP reservation window opens is because, frankly, there's a lot of WDW on site resorts. Just in the DVC resorts alone, they have way more total quantity of hotel rooms than all 3 of the DL on site hotels combined.

When this reservation system for DL opens up, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw something like this: (side note: this is pure speculation on my part)
  • For the dates of 7/17 - 7/22, AP holders will get priority first to make a park reservation.
  • I think that similarly to when SWGE opened, AP holders will be limited to a certain # of park reservations within a certain time frame (i.e., X # of park reservations per month).
  • For the dates of 7/17-7/22, everyone else will then have a chance to get park reservations for those dates. On site hotel guests will not have priority for those dates because the on site hotels will not be open yet.
  • For dates starting 7/23, on site hotel guests at DL will get first dibs for DL park reservations. It'll probably be 2-3 days' lead time before the 7/23 and beyond dates open up for AP holders.
  • Regular park ticket holders (i.e., everybody else who doesn't have an AP and isn't staying on site) will have a crack at it after AP holders do for dates starting 7/23.
  • If WDW park reservations are through about 9/21-9/23 (I can't remember the date I saw on this or the other thread on the WDW side), then the DL park reservations will probably be through 9/30.
Taking WDW's other announcements about special 'add on' cancellations, I think that DL will follow suit with stuff like:
  • no WOC, fireworks, or Fantasmic through end of September.
  • no Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique through end of September.
  • no tours, with maybe the exception of VIP tours
  • no special dinner packages (not necessary since there's no night time shows)
  • no character meals. Or if they do have a character meal, it's only at ONE location and it'll be at the GCH (since Goofy's Kitchen will be closed due to DLH closure through some date in October). WDW is only going with ONE character meal at the Riviera resort during the initial opening period.
  • Plaza Inn will probably still serve breakfast, but it'll be cafeteria style (including the pastries section where you could serve yourself) and the serve-yourself drinks will be replaced with drinks provided by servers or you just get one drink with no refills like at other regular Quick Service locations.
  • ALL dining locations will have reduced seating capacity, including QS locations. QS locations will have some tables blocked off for social distancing. BUT with reduced park capacity, it probably won't be a big deal.
I notice this does not specify that they will be differentiating between the types of passes. So are they including block out dates for certain passes? I feel like they would just put that there if they were. Maybe they are trying to be fair since no one who wasn't blocked out could go these last 3-4 months anyway, and they are already screwing over the Sig and Sig+ people by requiring reservation first. Also( If this is copied for DLR too), that would mean they are telling people with DisneyFlex that they have no chance at all for the first few weeks because their rule is to reserve a whole month out...buy they are not even being given a heads up about it. So maybe all AP's get to reserve regardless of pass type.
 
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Yep, that's an issue in our county. You aren't allowed to enter some stores with valve masks. The easy way to handle that is double masking (or tape).
What county do you live in? I wonder if they will eventually say something?

We are barely getting people to wear basic masks properly, let alone specify what type of masks to wear lol
 
sorry to hijack the thread on the masks - just trying to help public understanding --
-- as people state above; -- the valve mask still offer moderate exhale protection and better than someone not wearing a mask at all. It does help those who are sensitive to outflow obstruction that regular masks cause --- this is especially true with those with asthma and emphysema where ability to generate exhaling force is compromised.

Most of these valved masks still provide quite good external breathing as it disrupts the air flow -- but can see where specific areas like medical offices are particularly stringent on universal masking policies.
 
The hotels have been approved for opening. Can you imagine if the hotels get the approval but the parks don't? :sad:
Right?! What would be the point of approving the hotels to open without the parks. Also, as I understand it, one of the main complaints in the recent union letter was regarding the way the hotels were being sanitized. I could be wrong about that though.

Idk. I feel like this is another step toward approval of the parks, but until we know, we don’t know.
 
Right?! What would be the point of approving the hotels to open without the parks. Also, as I understand it, one of the main complaints in the recent union letter was regarding the way the hotels were being sanitized. I could be wrong about that though.

Idk. I feel like this is another step toward approval of the parks, but until we know, we don’t know.
While I know they have different demographics...The hotels in FL are opening before the parks...nearly 3 weeks. We thought, there was no way they would open the parks without the hotels...
 
While I know they have different demographics...The hotels in FL are opening before the parks...nearly 3 weeks. We thought, there was no way they would open the parks without the hotels...
Doesn’t that have something to do with the mysterious DVC contracts though?
 
Doesn’t that have something to do with the mysterious DVC contracts though?
That was rumored. But it also opens the parks’ soft openings to DVC before APs have their soft open on July 9 and 10.

WDW caters to their guest hierarchy: Club 33, DVC, APs, Resort, regular ticket holders, and then lowly CMs. DD was on the event team and there were always special pluses happening at the DVC resorts and Magical after-hours nights in the parks for DVC-only.
 
The hotels have been approved for opening. Can you imagine if the hotels get the approval but the parks don't? :sad:

Well hotels are allowed to open right now but so far theme parks are not. They can have approval to open and still choose not to, if the parks don't get approval.
 
You and me both!


I'm in the Bay Area, and I had a similar experience at a doctor's appointment on Monday. I had on a N95 mask and they asked me to put on one of their surgical masks. I just double masked since I wanted the protect of an N95. I double mask a lot to protect my limited # of N95s.

I"m on a reopening Task Force (I like saying that, it makes me feel important, even if no one listens to me!), and one of our people is an infectious disease doctor. She said that their nurses have 5 N95 masks and wear one per day, put it in a plastic ziplock, leave it for a week, and then rewear it. At the hospital. She said the virus can't survive for a week in the ziplock bag, so then they can reuse their masks.

The hotels have been approved for opening. Can you imagine if the hotels get the approval but the parks don't? :sad:

I was noticing today that when I was looking at the California Covid19 website, it specifically says that all theme parks are still closed and not allowed to reopen. I'm guessing Disney has the inside scoop from Governor Newsome and knows that they will announce that CA can open theme parks by July 17, but I still think that's a little odd.....
 

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