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At $160 a day for a ticket from Christmas to New Year’s Day, with reduced hours and no fireworks, parades, character dining, and so many other things missing, plus on site rooms $300 a night even at Pop, the holiday season looks grim.

That's the part I really disagree with. They're only making a fraction of the complete Disney experience available but charging full price for it, as if you're still getting parades, meet and greets, fireworks, full park hours, all the shops and restaurants open, etc.

If you're not going to be giving guests the full experience, don't charge full price.
 
Not only that, but it costs major money to build them.
Correct. Whereas the rest of the decorations are all in storage in the warehouses behind MK. Very easy to pull them out and set them up. Gingerbread houses take a lot of money to make and set up, plus they’re not very social distancing friendly once they’re set up, they always have a crowd around them.
 
When they decided to open, Florida was around 1,000 daily cases. When WDW opened, it was 10 times that. That’s the biggest factor here and I don’t blame them for not predicting that.
Ohh I would NOT let them off the hook so easily for that at all.

If they never thought for once there wasn't a possibility for another outbreak and the numbers going up significantly then shame on them.

I am sure that was talked about with the higher ups. In a place like disney I am sure they plan for every conceivable outcome there is.
 
Ohh I would NOT let them off the hook so easily for that at all.

If they never thought for once there wasn't a possibility for another outbreak and the numbers going up significantly then shame on them.

I am sure that was talked about with the higher ups. In a place like disney I am sure they plan for every conceivable outcome there is.

While yes, I’m sure they planned for every outcome possible, when you’re talking to investors, and there hasn’t been a major spike in CF at that time, you’re not going to tell your investors during an ugly Q2 report that you think theres demand to return to the parks when they open, but not to get your hopes up just in case Orlando sees a spike. You can plan for the possibility, but when they announced the reopening of the parks I’m sure their minds didnt go to “I have a feeling Florida is going to see a spike 2.5 weeks after we make our announcement that we’re reopening the parks”
 
Ohh I would NOT let them off the hook so easily for that at all.

If they never thought for once there wasn't a possibility for another outbreak and the numbers going up significantly then shame on them.

I am sure that was talked about with the higher ups. In a place like disney I am sure they plan for every conceivable outcome there is.
I’m just saying that’s why there were lower crowds. I’m not sure what your point is.
 
I’m just saying that’s why there were lower crowds. I’m not sure what your point is.
You said you don't blame them for predicting that and I was just saying I am sure it was predicated in some of their plans going forward. Thats all
 
I liked Wishes, it was good for when it was around. But I personally find HEA to be a far superior show all around. The firework display might have been better for Wishes, but the music, lights and projections with HEA I just find on another level


I prefer HEA, as well, but Wishes would be perfect for this kind of situation.
 
I cannot imagine in any sane world that there will not be a lawsuit about this and deservedly so. Its like selling someone a porsche with unlimited milage and then forcing them to trade it in for a vw bug capped at 8k per year 3 months later.
It depends if the judge makes the wording of the contract stick or not. If you’ve read what you sign on for when you purchase it gives Disney the ability to deny you entry at their discretion. And they’re finally doing that. Especially considering Disney is offering a refund going after them in court could be a tough slog.
 
Going to wait and see what they add before having an opinion. Plus this is only for the top tier pass.
I don’t need to wait. Disney has taken a crap ton away from APs. And a dang magnet ain’t making up for it.

Looking forward to spending my (admittedly little lol) refund check elsewhere at this point- and I was fairly dedicated to my WDW trips 😔
 
Everyone complaining about the reduced hours, I wonder how many have actually been in the parks, I have been in the parks multiple times and completely understand the change. It did not affect my day in any way, I was done and no one was there. I have been there to closing and staying open is nuts is you ask me. As business opens back up there is no doubt Disney will extend the hours.

It was bad enough that they got rid of park hopping for us considering our touring style but the reduced hours really puts a damper on things. I adjusted our plans without PH by being able to take a break then return to the parks but now it seems that would be a waste of time. We are not open til close kind of people, more of morning hours then late afternoon:/evening hours but that seems more and more unlikely...
 
That's the part I really disagree with. They're only making a fraction of the complete Disney experience available but charging full price for it, as if you're still getting parades, meet and greets, fireworks, full park hours, all the shops and restaurants open, etc.

If you're not going to be giving guests the full experience, don't charge full price.
It’s interesting to consider what a ticket is purchasing and what are bonuses. Going back to the old days, my mindset is still that it is buying admission plus use of the attractions. Parades, fireworks, etc. are bonuses. I agree that I would rather have all the extras since they make a ticket more valuable, but if Disney strips them, they are still providing what the ticket is actually purchasing.
 
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