Canadian Buffoon's Exhausted Vacation - Update 09/01 - New TR link!

So this is stuff from our reeinacting days.
<sigh>
And of course I'm at work and can't see any photos.
It's going to have to wait a while, possibly a few days
before I can see them.
But... thanks for sharing!

Can't wait to see. :)
 
@franandaj Thanks so much for sharing all your reenactment pictures!! My son is 11 and a Civil War history nut. He has really gotten into the topic over the last year or so, and is obsessed with learning about Abraham Lincoln and General Grant. He really liked seeing the pictures, too, especially of the battle reenactment. Hopefully when the world starts to return to "normal" I'll be able to take him somewhere to see one in person. These are really incredible memories!
 
@franandaj Thanks so much for sharing all your reenactment pictures!! My son is 11 and a Civil War history nut. He has really gotten into the topic over the last year or so, and is obsessed with learning about Abraham Lincoln and General Grant. He really liked seeing the pictures, too, especially of the battle reenactment. Hopefully when the world starts to return to "normal" I'll be able to take him somewhere to see one in person. These are really incredible memories!
And meanwhile... I still haven't seen them!
I haven't been home enough to get the chance!
 
I used to re-enact with a couple of my kids too and it was a lot of fun! I LOVED sewing my dresses and the hoops!! I LOVE THE HOOPS! Thanks Alison for bringing back some fun memories!
 
Hi @missjackiemcg this post is for you and your son, and you @pkondz but you’ll see it regardless. Since you told me how much he enjoyed looking at pictures of the band, but that he liked the battle, I pulled up some more of those and some others which don’t really involve Fran and myself, but are more about what else would go on during the day.


I mentioned that we did a parade at the last reenactment that we participated in, but that wasn’t the only time. There was one at the Calico reenactment as well, this is what I meant when we “marched two by two”.







It was always big fun when these guys came to the reenactments, we thought we had it rough with all our musician’s gear, imagine carting a trailer with a canon on the back! It would only fire once during the day, but everyone looked forward to that.





Here’s a few more battle scenes, these are more close ups of the various regiments.







These guys with the flashy striped pants are called zouaves, they drew their origins from the French troops who served in North Africa from the 1830s forward. There were zouaves on both sides in the war.





After the battles, women and clergy would tend to the wounded and dead.



In the mornings before the battles, lots of regiments would perform drills and such. The band was usually rehearsing.



There were also cavalry units that would participate.



Here we are at the first reenactment we attended. I was still just being a lady, although today I was not an affluent woman, but just a regular working class gal.



Lots of people had a specific “thing” that they were demonstrating or representing, I showed you the medical demonstrations in the last post. These women are teaching kids how to make corn husk dolls.





These photos show just a few examples of various camps.





I’m sure that they didn’t fire off this canon at this reenactment, it was smack in the middle of Buena Park, and it was a very small area, but it was neat to look at it up close.



Lastly I mentioned that there were people impersonating famous people. This picture was taken of Mr. Lincoln at our first event.



Here he is at one of our last interacting with the kids.



This is General Grant at the Calico event.



These two aren’t famous, but they were our biggest fans. They were so sweet the way that they would dance like this. They weren’t at every event, but they were at enough that I came to recognize them. I think I’ll end this set of photos with this sweet older couple.

 
I used to re-enact with a couple of my kids too and it was a lot of fun! I LOVED sewing my dresses and the hoops!! I LOVE THE HOOPS! Thanks Alison for bringing back some fun memories!
I do not love hoops.
At least not when I have to jump through them.

Interesting that there are two of you that did reenactments.

I'm hoping to actually see the photos tomorrow.
 
Hi @missjackiemcg this post is for you and your son, and you @pkondz but you’ll see it regardless.
Eventually.

Photobucket (I assume that's what you're using)
is blocked at my work.
When you first posted, I was working evenings.
Then I short-changed to days and then (tonight)
to the midnight shift.
I haven't been home for very long, and not long
enough to read updates yet.
But I'm on 3 days off after tonight, so I'll be

able to get to it soon. :)
 
Eventually.

Photobucket (I assume that's what you're using)
is blocked at my work.
When you first posted, I was working evenings.
Then I short-changed to days and then (tonight)
to the midnight shift.
I haven't been home for very long, and not long
enough to read updates yet.
But I'm on 3 days off after tonight, so I'll be

able to get to it soon. :)

Well hopefully you are getting some well deserved sleep and will get around to checking out the internet and relaxing.
 
Okay, I'm awake after my last (night)
shift of the cycle and this is the first
thing I came to. :)

We started back in 2003
Hmpf. And you call yourself authentic.
It started back in 1861.


:snooty:


:laughing:
but all the pictures that I have from then are so farbie, I was embarrassed to show them!
:laughing: Well, we can't have that!
(Unless that's what you posted next. ;))

everyone in the band are playing using folding wire stands
Interesting. I would've thought
that would've been okay.

Back in the Civil War days, pictures took so long to take no one smiled, so we are trying to be authentic.
::yes::
Whenever I look at period photos,
I always look for the one person that's
blurred beyond recognition because

they moved.
Because women who served in the military “passed” as men, and anyone who was in the band was assumed to be a man, Fran would not let me play in the band while dressed as a woman.
Huh!
But... yes, of course.
It makes sense.
I would spend a bit of time in the persona as a woman, and then I would joke that I was going to “go thru that change” where I would put on my male soldier clothes. None of the folks seemed to find that as funny as I did. :laughing:
:lmao:
The reason you see a woman in the band is because she is the wife of the guy standing up with the cornet. He was the director
Ah.
Rank has its privileges.

BTW I'm playing bass drum now.
Really!
Now that surprises me.
Why?

Or why you specifically?
Since the sandwich was invented nearly a century earlier, this was a perfectly legitimate choice for lunch.
::yes::
I just realized that sliced bread wasn't invented until the 1930s so we screwed that one up!
Nah.
You're father owned a lumber mill
and you used his saw to cut the bread.

:rolleyes1
While we were grubbing out there was a battle going on. There was much more to it, but these are just a couple shots. The event took place at Calico Ghost town outside of Barstow, CA. It was a great site for such an event because there were so many period buildings to set the stage.
I've never been to anything like that.
I'm surprised they even reenacted casualties!
I presume the number of casualties were based

on the actual battle?
So this wasn’t our set up, but I think this was a vendor who was serving meals to participants for a fee. It just goes to show how authentic folks are in their presentations.
Very impressive!
Fran booked a Murder Mystery dinner on a paddle boat out of Long Beach Harbor for my birthday celebration. She invited about 50-60 people, I know that of the entire dinner seating we had more than half the tables booked. It was themed to the late 1880’s wild west and she encouraged people to dress in period themed apparel. Not a lot changed between CW era uniforms and what some people wore out west a couple decades later, fashions changed more slowly back then.
That sounds like a ton of fun!
And very nice of Fran. :)

I tried to be a lady
I'm sure you succeeded.
but it was a warm evening and pretty early on the evening, I revealed myself to be a hussy running around in just my underwear.
My kind of girl! :lmao:
Amazing that underwear back then was less revealing than some of the things you can buy on the rack today!
I'm so glad things have changed.


:rolleyes1
Back to the Civil War Band, we were “hired” (standard pay, zilch)
Hard to live off of that.
Then again, if they paid you an
"authentic" rate, it would've

been close to zero anyway!
Now you may say, “wait, there are women in the band, why can’t you be dressed as a woman?”

Well those women aren’t married to Fran.
:rolleyes:
Also notice that many of the band members are playing on more authentic music stands that Fran ordered online.
Interesting.
Also find it interesting the differences
between the two types pictured.
They were somewhat expensive so she slowly built the collection a couple at a time.
How much were they?
Feel free to ignore this question, of course.

Now I was absolutely appalled to find this picture as I was going through my archives. There is nothing more Farbie that one could find than this picture. Someone took this one just to spite me. I only post it for it’s comedic value.
"Yes, Ma. I'll be home soon. Just make sure
them hogs are fed. And Ol' Nell was looking
kinda peakish, so you might want to put her
in the barn tonight."

Also...
You played in a cemetery! That surprised me.

But somehow seems appropriate.
q21CW18.jpg
Fran's hat intrigues me.
It doesn't look like a man's hat,
but I'm sure it's appropriate attire.
Now unfortunately I lost all my own pictures from 2006 & 2007. We had switched over to digital cameras, and I didn’t properly back things up, so without the original memory cards, I wasn’t able to retrieve a lot of photos.
:(
Sorry to hear that.
We had even purchased an old Uhaul diesel box truck in which we stored all the equipment for the these gigs.
Really! Man, you guys were
going all out!

This picture was taken at the Huntington Beach reenactment and I was able to get a copy because it was posted on the band website for a period of time.
Love the sepia toning. ::yes::
I believe that we left this event with a giant apple pie.
Okay, now that's my kind of payment!
:scared:
We actually rented an RV for this event and I drove the Uhaul and she drove the RV
Holy smokes!
You had your very own convoy!

Fran likes to be punctual for these events.
Good.
I'm like that too.
I try to always be punctual.

I feel terrible if I'm even 5 minutes late.
Sad that this was the last one
:(
A couple months later Fran was hospitalized with pneumonia on two separate occasions. The second time was rather serious, she lost 60 pounds while on a ventilator and feeding tube
I didn't know that.
I know she'd had surgery (or surgeries)
but not that she was that bad.
Once she recovered, she spent the next couple years having her hip and knees replaced
I didn't know that either!
and once that was complete she had venal ulcers in her left leg.
Now that part I knew.
I guess that must be around
the time you and I started

to get acquainted.
By the time all those medical issues had passed, she didn’t have the drive to work back into the whole reenacting scene.
Ohhh...
Okay, now I understand.

It was a fun time, but a lot of work. I’m kinda glad we are done with that part of our lives.
Hmmm..

I can see that too.
Lots of work, definitely.
And a fair bit of expense as well.
And yet... it sure looked like a good time, too.

Thanks for sharing, Alison.

Now I'm off to see your next post!
 
Hi @missjackiemcg this post is for you and your son, and you @pkondz but you’ll see it regardless.
Don't mind me.
I'm just here for the popcorn.


popcorn::
this is what I meant when we “marched two by two”.
They actually did that!
(I presume?)

I always thought that was more
of a Hollywood thing.


Huh!
So many!
It was always big fun when these guys came to the reenactments, we thought we had it rough with all our musician’s gear, imagine carting a trailer with a canon on the back! It would only fire once during the day, but everyone looked forward to that.
Can you imagine being pulled
over by the cops?
"Where y'all headed with this?"


"The bank, officer."
Here’s a few more battle scenes, these are more close ups of the various regiments.
Impressive.
And very interesting.
I'd love to see something like that.


And not to open a can of worms,
but I wonder how accepted it is these days?

These guys with the flashy striped pants are called zouaves,
I noticed one on the last post
and wondered about the costume.

And "zouave" is not a word I recognized
so looked it up.
They were from the Zwawa group of tribes

in Algeria.
There were zouaves on both sides in the war.
Really! That surprises me a lot.
After the battles, women and clergy would tend to the wounded and dead.
Really! More surprises.
I had no idea there was so much!

There were also cavalry units that would participate.
More surprises, although...
in hindsight, I suppose it makes sense.

Here we are at the first reenactment we attended. I was still just being a lady, although today I was not an affluent woman, but just a regular working class gal.
What's the pin you have on?
These women are teaching kids how to make corn husk dolls.
Cool. :)
These photos show just a few examples of various camps.
Impressive.

I think I'm using that word a lot.

This picture was taken of Mr. Lincoln at our first event.
This is General Grant at the Calico event.
So... were those gentlemen treated
with any sort of deference?
Or were they just "actors in costume"?
These two aren’t famous, but they were our biggest fans. They were so sweet the way that they would dance like this.
Awww. :)
 
:laughing: Well, we can't have that!
(Unless that's what you posted next. ;))

No, just one picture of Fran and I.....

Interesting. I would've thought
that would've been okay.

Those wire stands are way too 20th century, the metal work is much more refined than you would have had in the CW and too many moving parts and things.

Really!
Now that surprises me.
Why?

Or why you specifically?

Well, I didn't like "sitting around looking pretty". I wanted to "do" something. The band didn't have a bass drum player and it doesn't take a heck of a lot of skill. Especially that era of music, you're basically hitting the drum on one and three (in 4/4 music) and on the downbeat in 2/4 music or 3/4 (waltzes). It wasn't tough to do, and then I could be a part of the group too.

The saxophone was invented the first year that the CW broke out, but most bands didn't have woodwinds due to their delicate nature. Plus saxophones were only in France until about the 1880s when they started to gain popularity in military bands.

I've never been to anything like that.
I'm surprised they even reenacted casualties!
I presume the number of casualties were based

on the actual battle?

I don't know how that battles actually worked, we didn't pay a ton of attention to them. Mainly cause that was the only time we had to grab some food or take care of other stuff we needed to do. I think it was predetermined who was going to "go down", and whether or not you were just injured (ie lay on the ground moaning) or dead. Since there weren't any battles in California, I think they just sort of made them up at each event. I could be totally wrong.

That sounds like a ton of fun!
And very nice of Fran. :)

It was great fun. I think even more fun than my 50th party was!

I'm so glad things have changed.


:rolleyes1

Me too! :rolleyes1 but I suspect for different reasons! :laughing:

How much were they?
Feel free to ignore this question, of course.

I asked Fran and I even searched around on the internet, but perhaps that guy is no longer making them. She seems to think that they were around $150 each.

Also...
You played in a cemetery! That surprised me.

But somehow seems appropriate.

It was a Veteran's memorial service so.....

Okay, now that's my kind of payment!

Except we had to pay for it. I think it was like $16.95





I didn't know that.
I know she'd had surgery (or surgeries)
but not that she was that bad.

She didn't have any surgeries for the pneumonia, but the two or so weeks on the ventilator and feeding tube, caused her to lose a bunch of weight and strength.

The right hip replacement was planned for a while and just when she was going in for it, the second bout of pneumonia hit. I don't remember now when she had it done, but I think it was delayed 7-8 months. Here knees were about six months afterwards, one at a time.

Now that part I knew.
I guess that must be around
the time you and I started

to get acquainted.

Yes, she had recovered from that just a little before we became acquainted.

Hmmm..

I can see that too.
Lots of work, definitely.
And a fair bit of expense as well.
And yet... it sure looked like a good time, too.

And now you can see why I view getting the scooter in and out of the car as "a piece of cake". Way easier than setting up a Civil War Camp.

They actually did that!
(I presume?)

I always thought that was more
of a Hollywood thing.


Huh!

I think they did. When going from place to place, the roads were not wide so it probably made sense. That way any wagons they met on the way could pass easily.

Can you imagine being pulled
over by the cops?
"Where y'all headed with this?"


"The bank, officer."

:laughing: Good one! Seriously though, I bet they had to have permits and stuff!

Impressive.
And very interesting.
I'd love to see something like that.


And not to open a can of worms,
but I wonder how accepted it is these days?

Well I just googled, and found an article that in 2018, they had to close a battle in Virginia (or somewhere out east) to the public because of threats of a pipe bomb. Also that the younger generation isn't so into it and people my age are starting to get tired or have elderly parents to care for, so it may be dwindling.

Really! More surprises.
I had no idea there was so much!


In the actual Civil War, people would bring picnic baskets and actually sit on the sidelines and observe. The units had "groupies" that would follow them around.

What's the pin you have on?

That's actually a watch. The wrist watch was not invented yet, so men had pocket watches and ladies had those things. It was positioned so that I could look down, and hold it upright and read the time.

So... were those gentlemen treated
with any sort of deference?
Or were they just "actors in costume"?

Well, I didn't know anything about Grant, I only saw him that once, but Lincoln seemed like everyone in the ACWS (American Civil War Society) knew him. Like he was everyone's buddy. When he would interact with kids and spectators, we would act in character.

BTW I checked the website for the ACWS and the last thing posted was an event from 2018, but their website is there. Our "unit" was the 2nd Cavalry because that's where the band leader was able to "hang his hat". They aren't listed as active units on their website so I don't know what happened.

It would seem to me that if an Antebellum party isn't cool these days, than CW reenacting probably isn't either. Too bad because in my experience it wasn't about prejudice and such, it was about recreating history and teaching it to others.
 
Those wire stands are way too 20th century, the metal work is much more refined than you would have had in the CW and too many moving parts and things.
I see. I guess I thought there might be metal ones brought from Europe, perhaps.
I mean... you have metal instruments, so you could have metal stands, no?
Well, I didn't like "sitting around looking pretty". I wanted to "do" something. The band didn't have a bass drum player and it doesn't take a heck of a lot of skill. Especially that era of music, you're basically hitting the drum on one and three (in 4/4 music) and on the downbeat in 2/4 music or 3/4 (waltzes). It wasn't tough to do, and then I could be a part of the group too.
Not what I was asking, but you answered that in the next sentence.
Still... that does explain why you were the drummer. :)
The saxophone was invented the first year that the CW broke out, but most bands didn't have woodwinds due to their delicate nature. Plus saxophones were only in France until about the 1880s when they started to gain popularity in military bands.
Did not know that. So... really authentic!
I don't know how that battles actually worked, we didn't pay a ton of attention to them. Mainly cause that was the only time we had to grab some food or take care of other stuff we needed to do. I think it was predetermined who was going to "go down", and whether or not you were just injured (ie lay on the ground moaning) or dead. Since there weren't any battles in California, I think they just sort of made them up at each event. I could be totally wrong.
My thought was "lay on the ground moaning"... And small children in the audience are traumatized. :laughing:
Me too! :rolleyes1 but I suspect for different reasons! :laughing:
:rolleyes:
I asked Fran and I even searched around on the internet, but perhaps that guy is no longer making them. She seems to think that they were around $150 each.
Not bad, I think.
It was a Veteran's memorial service so.....
Right. ::yes::
Except we had to pay for it. I think it was like $16.95
Oh.
But... whoa they look good!
She didn't have any surgeries for the pneumonia, but the two or so weeks on the ventilator and feeding tube, caused her to lose a bunch of weight and strength.

The right hip replacement was planned for a while and just when she was going in for it, the second bout of pneumonia hit. I don't remember now when she had it done, but I think it was delayed 7-8 months. Here knees were about six months afterwards, one at a time.
7-8 months... long delay!
And now you can see why I view getting the scooter in and out of the car as "a piece of cake". Way easier than setting up a Civil War Camp.
::yes::
I think they did. When going from place to place, the roads were not wide so it probably made sense. That way any wagons they met on the way could pass easily.
Ah! Yeah, that does make sense.
:laughing: Good one! Seriously though, I bet they had to have permits and stuff!
I dunno... I mean... are you really going to use a civil war era cannon for anything other than for show? Might need a permit to set it off in an area that isn't a range, though?
I have no clue.
Well I just googled, and found an article that in 2018, they had to close a battle in Virginia (or somewhere out east) to the public because of threats of a pipe bomb. Also that the younger generation isn't so into it and people my age are starting to get tired or have elderly parents to care for, so it may be dwindling.
Not overly surprising. :(
In the actual Civil War, people would bring picnic baskets and actually sit on the sidelines and observe. The units had "groupies" that would follow them around.
What???? really??? That's... I don't know what the word is. Bizarre? People are dying here, folks!
That's actually a watch. The wrist watch was not invented yet, so men had pocket watches and ladies had those things. It was positioned so that I could look down, and hold it upright and read the time.
Huh! Cool!
Well, I didn't know anything about Grant, I only saw him that once, but Lincoln seemed like everyone in the ACWS (American Civil War Society) knew him. Like he was everyone's buddy. When he would interact with kids and spectators, we would act in character.

BTW I checked the website for the ACWS and the last thing posted was an event from 2018, but their website is there. Our "unit" was the 2nd Cavalry because that's where the band leader was able to "hang his hat". They aren't listed as active units on their website so I don't know what happened.
Ah, okay. Was wondering how far it went.
It would seem to me that if an Antebellum party isn't cool these days, than CW reenacting probably isn't either. Too bad because in my experience it wasn't about prejudice and such, it was about recreating history and teaching it to others.
My thoughts as well.
History doesn't change just from ignoring it.
 
Thanks so much for sharing more pictures, @franandaj Allison! Jimmy really enjoyed looking at all of them, and was particularly excited by the parade and battle photos and that kids got to talk to Abraham Lincoln. Such a shame that these reenactments would ever be considered anything other than a history lesson brought to life!

Over our spring break, we are going to Springfield, IL to visit the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Museum, Lincoln's home and the Lincoln Depot where he departed for D.C. when he was elected President. They used to have people in period attire walking around the area to interact with guests, including Lincoln himself, but due to COVID they aren't scheduled to return in any capacity until June. I think he would have been starstruck to be able to "meet Lincoln" face to face.

THanks again so much!! :)

And HELLO, @pkondz!! :wave2:Sorry to hi-jack your TR momentarily.
 
Just wanted to say thank you to @franandaj for posting all your pictures. I too am a Civil War history buff and loved looking at all your pictures.
 
Just read the life update. Nice that you were able to get out a little bit.
We also had two small getaways. In November we spent two nights at Tara Inn. Went to an outlet mall and had some good food.
Then last week we went to Landolls Mohican Castle. Our first time there. It’s been on two shows. One was a ghost hunt. The other was with Gordon Ramsey and he redid the menu at their restaurant. I had short rib and mashed potatoes. The beef was good but the mashed potatoes were probably the best I’ve ever had.
In May my friend and I are planning a short trip to Columbus.
 

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