The Official Riviera Owners & Info Thread

[summerw]

Hello! DH and I just added on at Riviera this week!

Looking forward to staying there soon!

Welcome Home!

 

[GalacticEmpire1982]

Stayed at Riviera for the first time a couple weeks ago. Fell in love with the modern rooms, great food, and the ease of the Skyliner. Happy to say I added a 2nd contract and now have 150 points at Riviera!

 

[jamesweikamp]

Stayed at Riviera for the first time a couple weeks ago. Fell in love with the modern rooms, great food, and the ease of the Skyliner. Happy to say I added a 2nd contract and now have 150 points at Riviera!

Welcome home! Those are some of the same reasons we love RIV.

 

[havoc315]

Anyone rope drop the skyliner lately?
Is the line moving faster since they reduced social distancing?

And going to DHS... are they still merging the first few parties from Riviera instead of going back of the line at CBR?

 

[summerw]

Anyone rope drop the skyliner lately?
Is the line moving faster since they reduced social distancing?

And going to DHS... are they still merging the first few parties from Riviera instead of going back of the line at CBR?

They were the first week of May, but I don’t have any reports since

 

[CP3uhoh]

I’ve logged on the member website the last two days to book a May 22 trip in a standard studio and it looks like dates are being walked. Yesterday 5/1 was unavailable and now today 5/2 is unavailable. Very frustrating. Is there something big going on that would cause people to walk? It just seems weird to start walking early May?

Standard Studios are just hard to get, there's not that many and the point the difference can be meaningful. You're going to have to walk that most of the time until they adjust the points (which they may never)

 

[Bjaiken77]

Didn’t I hear that they have more rooms in inventory that have not yet been made available? Do you think that will help with standard availability when that happens?

 

[sethschroeder]

Didn’t I hear that they have more rooms in inventory that have not yet been made available? Do you think that will help with standard availability when that happens?

May or may not.

I think the BIG thing that will help is the requirement to have 150 points as a minimum. Its getting people closer to having Premium stay points instead of only enough for a Standard stay.

 

[havoc315]

May or may not.

I think the BIG thing that will help is the requirement to have 150 points as a minimum. Its getting people closer to having Premium stay points instead of only enough for a Standard stay.

Generally speaking, cheaper point categories are always more popular, no matter how many points one owns.

Yes, there are many people who would prefer higher room categories and fewer nights.

But seems there are always a majority of people looking to maximize their points: more stays, longer stays, in the cheaper rooms.

 

[MomOTwins]

Generally speaking, cheaper point categories are always more popular, no matter how many points one owns.

Yes, there are many people who would prefer higher room categories and fewer nights.

But seems there are always a majority of people looking to maximize their points: more stays, longer stays, in the cheaper rooms.

I wonder how much of that is just that disboards attracts so many superfans (e.g., if you went by what you see on these boards, you'd think everyone had 1000 points and 10 contracts). I keep seeing people saying they have 2-3 week stays and wonder where these people get so much vacation time from their work! I have read that on average, guests stay at WDW 4-5 days to do one day in each park. That's certainly how we've always traveled, except for last year when our cruise was cancelled so we extended our WDW stay and did 9 nights, and decided it was wayyyyy too long for us to be in one place. Have a 4-night planned for August mixed with Universal..

 

[sethschroeder]

Generally speaking, cheaper point categories are always more popular, no matter how many points one owns.

I would agree

I have read that on average, guests stay at WDW 4-5 days to do one day in each park.

Which I think is the counter point to Havoc slightly. I do think DVC members stay more nights than the 4-5 and its more likely to be 7/8 nights each year on average (but that is not based in data just a guess).

So my thought process is more so that if most people are staying 7/8 nights they will be forced to buy more points than they "need" and will either need to upgrade their stay outside of Studio Standard Views or they will lose the points (most people will not rent out their points regularly if ever I doubt).

 

[MomOTwins]

I would agree



Which I think is the counter point to Havoc slightly. I do think DVC members stay more nights than the 4-5 and its more likely to be 7/8 nights each year on average (but that is not based in data just a guess).

So my thought process is more so that if most people are staying 7/8 nights they will be forced to buy more points than they "need" and will either need to upgrade their stay outside of Studio Standard Views or they will lose the points (most people will not rent out their points regularly if ever I doubt).

That's a fair point about DVC staying longer than the typical guest. However, another angle on it is that standard studio views sell out so fast, it may be a blessing that new buyers are being incentivized to purchase enough points for preferred categories. If you have too many people buying in at 100 points, there will be more people needing standard than there are standard rooms--in fact, I kind of think we are already there.

 

[sethschroeder]

That's a fair point about DVC staying longer than the typical guest. However, another angle on it is that standard studio views sell out so fast, it may be a blessing that new buyers are being incentivized to purchase enough points for preferred categories. If you have too many people buying in at 100 points, there will be more people needing standard than there are standard rooms--in fact, I kind of think we are already there.

You have sold about 28% of points so far so I don't think thats the case. You have members adding on and buyers who only wanted bigger rooms to start with in those numbers as well.

I think latest guess is around 32% standard view studios.

We will see though long term. Maybe RIV is worse but RIV has a larger % of Standard View rooms than some other resorts.

Luckily I will really never try for Standard Studios just once in a great while the Tower Studios possibly for an adult trip.

 

[MomOTwins]

You have sold about 28% of points so far so I don't think thats the case. You have members adding on and buyers who only wanted bigger rooms to start with in those numbers as well.

I think latest guess is around 32% standard view studios.

We will see though long term. Maybe RIV is worse but RIV has a larger % of Standard View rooms than some other resorts.

Luckily I will really never try for Standard Studios just once in a great while the Tower Studios possibly for an adult trip.

They are up to 30% sold as of April and it is only about 43% declared, so I do think it is pretty close, and certainly at popular times of the year standard view demand exceeds supply. Most of RIV rooms are currently being used by Disney for cash guests—I can still book RIV studios cash this summer, but on the DVC side they are sold out

 

[sethschroeder]

They are up to 30% sold as of April and it is only about 43% declared, so I do think it is pretty close, and certainly at popular times of the year standard view demand exceeds supply. Most of RIV rooms are currently being used by Disney for cash guests—I can still book RIV studios cash this summer, but on the DVC side they are sold out

Oh sorry I just meant more long term like once they sell out only a smaller subset of owners will have under the 150 points so it possibly helps some of the availability.

 

[ksromack]

I guess I never mentioned on this thread that we are a party of 6 adults (our grown kids with spouses +1 granddaughter) staying in a 2/bd July 7-11. Excited we can enjoy Disney with everyone.

I have a question though! I used the search engine in this thread to find the address so we can order AmazonPrimeNow and didn't see one. Can someone help with the address we should use for this?

TIA!

 

[sethschroeder]

I guess I never mentioned on this thread that we are a party of 6 adults (our grown kids with spouses +1 granddaughter) staying in a 2/bd July 7-11. Excited we can enjoy Disney with everyone.

I have a question though! I used the search engine in this thread to find the address so we can order AmazonPrimeNow and didn't see one. Can someone help with the address we should use for this?

TIA!

This should be it

1080 Esplanade Ave
Lake Buena Vista, FL 32830

I haven't had anything delivered though to verify.

 

[Bjaiken77]

I haven’t stayed in a room (only been on site for coffee and dinner). However, I’ve heard talks that they should reconsider standards vs preferred views. Hopefully that doesn’t make them all preferred. I’ve heard some of the standard actually have great views.

 

[summerw]

This should be it

1080 Esplanade Ave
Lake Buena Vista, FL 32830

I haven't had anything delivered though to verify.

This is the one I used through Instacart. Worked great!

 

[havoc315]

I wonder how much of that is just that disboards attracts so many superfans (e.g., if you went by what you see on these boards, you'd think everyone had 1000 points and 10 contracts). I keep seeing people saying they have 2-3 week stays and wonder where these people get so much vacation time from their work! I have read that on average, guests stay at WDW 4-5 days to do one day in each park. That's certainly how we've always traveled, except for last year when our cruise was cancelled so we extended our WDW stay and did 9 nights, and decided it was wayyyyy too long for us to be in one place. Have a 4-night planned for August mixed with Universal..

Not basing my conclusion based on DVC forums which are not typical DVC owners.

Basing it on the clear demand of DVC bookings. The cheapest categories always book up fastest. Always easier to get a 1BR than a studio. Always easier to a preferred view than a standard view.

While I’m sure if you increase the average purchase by 25 points, some people will use those additional points for upgrades. But I suspect the majority of buyers would use it to add another night to their trip.

Riviera as an example:
6 nights standard studio over summer: 123 points
7 nights standard studio, 146 points
6 nights preferred studio, 154 points

So the type of person who purchased 125 points and stayed 6 nights…
If that type of person now buys 150 points instead, they going to upgrade the 6 nights to a preferred view? (Which would actually require a few more points).. or will they upgrade their 6 night trip to 7 nights?

The answer, I’m sure, is a bit of both. But it appears there would be more people adding a night instead of upgrading their view.