Marrila
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It is terrific news for us too. We are looking at cruises late next year.Terrific news, we are now planning to book for Christmas 2022
It is terrific news for us too. We are looking at cruises late next year.Terrific news, we are now planning to book for Christmas 2022
Is the end of Dec. the regular cancellation policy? I actually thought cancellation was extended to 60 days prior, which would be in January for a March cruise. Assuming you are not booked concierge, the regular (or extended) cancellation should be in effect for you. The Dec. 1st date is for those who are booked concierge (typically non-refundable at any point) or who would already be within their cancellation period (mid- to late-January cruises).What I thought was odd was that I was told I have until nearly the end of Dec to cancel my March 2022 cruise with no penalties, but if I want to cancel because of the vaccine, I only have until Dec 1. Which is it?
I think you missed my point. We all had plenty of time to plan for this—the writing was on the wall months before Disney announced it, and research, pediatrician questions etc. could all have taken place weeks ago. It’s like how when DCL announces a new season for booking—they usually only announce a week or so ahead of when they open for booking, which is not a time to prepare. But most of us on disboards already have an idea of what we want, and a super popular itinerary like Hawaii, for example, will sell out on day one. This vaccine mandate was equally capable of being planned for so those who wanted to cancel could cancel right away, and those who wanted to keep their bookings could as well without needing weeks and weeks to think it over after the announcement.No I would not say that is fair. People have lives and families and jobs outside of a vacation and need time to handle this appropriately and 2 weeks during the holidays is not an appropriate length of time.
Not everyone hangs out on the Disney cruiseline board 24\7 like most of the posters on here. People do have lives outside of Dinsey.I mean, to be fair, the vaccine has been approved for kids for a couple of weeks already, was known to be coming for ages, and anyone not living under a rock could see was likely DCL might require it. We talked to our pediatrician a month ago.
In the GTA they’ve already announced the neighbourhoods that will get rolled out first and ours is not on the list. So it will be at least December and maybe January. If they go 8 weeks between shots we could be scr*Wed for a March break cruise.
How I am supposed to juggle that by December 1 is beyond me. And the thought of telling kiddo that his cruise is postponed for a third time is…
I’m booked on one of those cruises and in our FB group people have been canceling steadily I would say the past six months for different reasons. What we’ve noticed is that as cabins get canceled they are not being added back into inventory where people are able to book those rooms.I wonder if more cabins for will open up for certain cruises. I just looked for Hawaii
and didn't see anything.
Our cruise date is March 12. Last month, I called DCL to find out when my full refund cancellation was and they said Dec 26.Is the end of Dec. the regular cancellation policy? I actually thought cancellation was extended to 60 days prior, which would be in January for a March cruise. Assuming you are not booked concierge, the regular (or extended) cancellation should be in effect for you. The Dec. 1st date is for those who are booked concierge (typically non-refundable at any point) or who would already be within their cancellation period (mid- to late-January cruises).
What I thought was odd was that I was told I have until nearly the end of Dec to cancel my March 2022 cruise with no penalties, but if I want to cancel because of the vaccine, I only have until Dec 1. Which is it?
We are all vaccinated, so that's not a problem, but we still haven't firmly decided we're sailing for other reasons (not the least of which is whether we can get covid or, heck, cruise insurance). So I'd like to know exactly how long I have before I lose my money if I cancel. This has made it confusing.
It took months for them to get supply out. And then we had to wait months for a second shot. If I were counting on kid supplies to go the same way adults did, I’d be planning to stay home until next summer at the earliest.I expect you'll be fine. Remember how fast they got through (willing) adults once supply came in? In Ontario, first-dose bookings opened for under 50s around mid-May. By mid-July, you could get a shot pretty much anywhere without an appointment. Most people got first and second shots inside that two month period, and that was a much, much bigger population than the 5-12 year-olds. Given supply, they know how to get shots in arms.
I will be surprised we are not actively vaccinating kids by this time next week. If not then, by the next Monday, for sure. They've had weeks to coordinate Pfizer's shipments with Health Canada's approval. Anyone who wants their kid vaccinated will have a first shot before Christmas. Even with an 8-week interval, that's going to leave you with a couple of weeks to spare before March Break.
You should have a better idea after they announce tomorrow!
I guess that's the usual 75 days. I thought cancellations had been extended to 60 days. Anyway, then yes you have until Dec. 26th to cancel. As mentioned above, the Dec. 1st date is for those who are concierge or are already be within their penalty period. I believe DCL did similar for the Dream and Fantasy last summer/early fall -- a short window allowing those who were already within the penalty period to cancel for refund, but those with later sailings still kept their designated cancellation date to decide. It's kind of a "whichever is later" scenario.Our cruise date is March 12. Last month, I called DCL to find out when my full refund cancellation was and they said Dec 26.
Not concierge.
3 weeks apart -we’ll have clarity for dates then.Hopefully not the 8 weeks between doses we’ve been hearing.
I guess that's the usual 75 days. I thought cancellations had been extended to 60 days. Anyway, then yes you have until Dec. 26th to cancel. As mentioned above, the Dec. 1st date is for those who are concierge or are already be within their penalty period. I believe DCL did similar for the Dream and Fantasy last summer/early fall -- a short window allowing those who were already within the penalty period to cancel for refund, but those with later sailings still kept their designated cancellation date to decide. It's kind of a "whichever is later" scenario.
For sailings through May 31, 2022, the cancellation fee schedule has been temporarily relaxed from beginning as early as 119 days prior to sailing to beginning 59 days prior to sailing for Guests booked in non-Suite and non-Concierge categories. For Guests booked in Suite and Concierge categories, cancellation fees in excess of the deposit amount will temporarily begin at 59 days prior to sailing.
DCL would need to make a lot of changes like drink packages, casinos adult entertainment etc.Well it is something that has been discussed for years here and elsewhere. I'll give a few examples but I am in the parks 4-6 weeks a year and the percentage of adults over kids is much bigger than it was a decade ago. Yes, Disney markets to families but they keep adding more and more for adults, they do have more cash per head to spend. Disney is getting expensive too, so many reasons to focus on the adult dollars as they price out some families. I've seen very little added for kids (extras).
- Epcot Food & Wine Festival is now over 4 mos long. I remember when 6 weeks. Geared to adults.
- Epcot Flower & Garden Festival is now over 4 mos long. Mostly geared to adults.
- Epcot Art Festival is now 2 mos long. Plenty for kids but festivals are heavy with drinking.
- Four big running events geared mostly to adults.
- Alcohol added to MK restaurants
- Alcohol at all Dessert parties, now even in MK!
- Addition of more rooftop/expensive dining
- Addition of more bars (Oga's, AbraCadabar, Nomad Lounge, Jock Lindsay, Trader Sam ..) and renovation of other bars in hotels
- Restaurants that appeal to adults, tougher $ for families like Space 220
- Many events over last 5-6 years geared around drinking; Highway in Sky, Club Villain, CG 50th Celebration around alcohol, Culinary events.
- Expansion at Disney Springs with lots of bars, expensive shopping, restaurants with huge bar menus, not exactly too much kid fun there.
- Many families with young kids are feeling priced out.
- Less hours with increase in After Hours Events, too late for many families plus the price. Know many adults who bought just this ticket. I've been 3 times and seen mostly adults.
- Many of the tours (most on hold now) are geared for adults, some with minimum ages.
Again I don't think they will stop marketing (commercials etc) to families because they hope to hook kids while they are young to keep coming back for their lifetime BUT I do think they will continue to focus heavily on their offerings to adults. $$$ in the bank now.
Greece has been pretty open to cruise ships. You probably have a better shot than a Baltic cruise.I agree. I thought my PIF date for my cruise was 13-Jan (March cruise also). That email has made it confusing. Was going to wait it out, but we (fully vaxed) don't care for the restrictions and the gamble of a positive test after traveling to port. Not relaxing at all. And given the hoop jumping of international travel- too expensive of a risk for my Italy/Greece trip. 2 previous cancellations. Looks like 3 strikes for us and we are out. Going to focus on trips I can actually take and relax (hopefully). Looks like a wait for our family to return to cruising-sadly...
DCL would need to make a lot of changes like drink packages, casinos adult entertainment etc.
Health Canada recommends 3 weeks apart but NACI is recommending at least 8 weeks apart It will be up to each province to decide the interval. In BC they have not announced which interval they will go with but considering we were one of the first provinces to implement the 8 week interval for adults and teens....ugh.
I think historically the gap between shots was driven by supply issues. I know that’s what Canada did. And then studies started popping up showing possible benefits of extending the time between shots etc. Normally this wouldn’t be an issue a week here or there etc. when it comes to being vetted as “fully vacillated” When one has plans it becomes an issue. Or in the case of the UK where they only give one dose to kidsHealth Canada recommends 3 weeks apart but NACI is recommending at least 8 weeks apart It will be up to each province to decide the interval. In BC they have not announced which interval they will go with but considering we were one of the first provinces to implement the 8 week interval for adults and teens....ugh.
At first it was definitely driven by supply but even when we were swimming in excess vaccines, they kept with that interval. In BC we will be finding out on Tuesday all tbe details of our rollout, including intervals between shots. We have no plans to go away now til mid March so even at 8 weeks we should be ok, esp if they start administering them the week of Nov 29 as they have announced in BC.I think historically the gap between shots was driven by supply issues. I know that’s what Canada did. And then studies started popping up showing possible benefits of extending the time between shots etc. Normally this wouldn’t be an issue a week here or there etc. when it comes to being vetted as “fully vacillated” When one has plans it becomes an issue. Or in the case of the UK where they only give one dose to kids