Paid FP options coming soon to WDW?

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I dont honestly care what they do as long as it helps with crowd control and still allows me to ride a ride multiple times if I want to. I do not want to have to pay for a batch of FPs for multiple rides I dont care about to get the one I want.
 
Jrb1979 said:
Why not make it like every other theme park and just have an express pass? No booking times for queues just go in the fast pass line. Do it like Universal and make it free for guests at certain resorts and ones staying at lower resorts get a discount. For everyone else make it a cost of $80. High enough to discourage people from buying it.
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You can only ride each ride once. What if I want to ride the same ride? I don't want to pay a bunch of money for rides i dont want. We need a more flexible system than universal has for this. I would be willing to pay more for more fast passes or genie wishes.
 
Jess.stw said:
What if you had to have a reservation for the park but not be up and in the park, starting at open? And you could only do one at a time....or one every X amount of time (and maybe exclude the shows--you could get them on top of your ride FP, like they do with MaxPass in CA).
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That sounds like more work than just booking them all in one go at 60 days out, honestly. I really love having my fastpasses settled before a trip so I know already know ahead of time that I'll be able to do everything I want. I've been to DLP and DL since getting used to FP+ and it's so stressful going back to old style FP.
 
ToyStoryManiaMouse said:
You can only ride each ride once. What if I want to ride the same ride? I don't want to pay a bunch of money for rides i dont want. We need a more flexible system than universal has for this. I would be willing to pay more for more fast passes or genie wishes.
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Universals lets you reride, unless you buy the one time only pass.
 


I initially liked the idea of going to a same day MaxPass type system and not having to plan everything so far in advance. As I thought about it further I think I prefer the advance planning. If I’m going to spend thousands of dollars on airfare and a vacation package I feel much more comfortable knowing I’m going to have a chance to experience the majority of dining and attractions that are important to my family.

We are very interested in another trip to see the new Star Wars attractions, however we were waiting with hope that RotR would move from virtual que to FP+ as the “lottery” aspect was not very appealing. I realize FP+ is not a 100% guarantee as the ride could go down, etc but I feel much better about my odds with a prior reservation.
 
Disney Bubble Lover said:
I initially liked the idea of going to a same day MaxPass type system and not having to plan everything so far in advance. As I thought about it further I think I prefer the advance planning. If I’m going to spend thousands of dollars on airfare and a vacation package I feel much more comfortable knowing I’m going to have a chance to experience the majority of dining and attractions that are important to my family.

We are very interested in another trip to see the new Star Wars attractions, however we were waiting with hope that RotR would move from virtual que to FP+ as the “lottery” aspect was not very appealing. I realize FP+ is not a 100% guarantee as the ride could go down, etc but I feel much better about my odds with a prior reservation.
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I agree with you on this for sure! Going to Disney is such a big expense, and we LOVE it! However, I love the ADRs and Fast Passes being preplanned because we know in advance that we will get to enjoy things that we want to enjoy while on our expensive vacation. Also, lots of people talk about the headliners being gone too quickly with the current system, but this will always be the case regardless of the system... unless they limit guests. I personally like that Disney seems to value onsite guests by allowing us to book FPs 60 days + in advance; that seems like a loyalty reward and a nice on-site perk! I’m very sad that people think a lot of these changes will be permanent because I don’t know that we’d return if all of these changes stick.

Like you said, it’s better to head down there knowing that you missed out on one or two FPs that you really wanted, but you also scored many that you wanted.
 


ToyStoryManiaMouse said:
You can only ride each ride once. What if I want to ride the same ride? I don't want to pay a bunch of money for rides i dont want. We need a more flexible system than universal has for this. I would be willing to pay more for more fast passes or genie wishes.
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I can stay at one of Uni's deluxe hotels for a third of what Disney charges for deluxe - and unlimited express pass is included for the duration of the stay. I can ride as many times as I want - in a row if I want. We love Disney, but there is something to be said for the unlimited express pass inclusion with a deluxe resort stay. We dig it.
 
I think a paid system would be the line for myself.

I’d rather have no FP at all than to have a true paid system.
 
I'm kinda feeling like all bets are off at this point. It's been fun following this thread through it's various seasons, but now...

I think people are underestimating the affect the pandemic is going to have on attendance for a long, long time. The days of crazy intense crowds (and, therefor, the need for lots of fp's) likely won't be resurfacing for a number of years. The hit to the economy, the lack of international visitors for the foreseeable future... it's a game changer.

Disney's going to be struggling just to get enough guests in the park to make a profit. Not sure that revamping their fp system is going to be that high on their list of priorities...
 
Scoobie said:
I can stay at one of Uni's deluxe hotels for a third of what Disney charges for deluxe - and unlimited express pass is included for the duration of the stay. I can ride as many times as I want - in a row if I want. We love Disney, but there is something to be said for the unlimited express pass inclusion with a deluxe resort stay. We dig it.
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I totally agree. Except Disney has hundreds (thousands?) more rooms than Universal, so there is not enough capacity on the more popular rides to give it for free. Remember at Universal the EP wasn’t valid on any of the HP rides for the first couple of years (?) they were open. But yeah, that would definitely make me feel like I was getting more for my money from my Disney hotel stay!! ($500/night got a Cars suite in May......I can stay on the beach in Maui for that, literally.)

I guess I’ll roll with whatever happens—there are pros and cons to any system, just like with FP. And any system favors someone, just because it fits their natural style more (get up early, spend more money, etc.).
 
cgattis said:
Except Disney has hundreds (thousands?) more rooms than Universal, so there is not enough capacity on the more popular rides to give it for free. Remember at Universal the EP wasn’t valid on any of the HP rides for the first couple of years (?) they were open. But yeah, that would definitely make me feel like I was getting more for my money from my Disney hotel stay!!
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Remember Uni only gives it to their "deluxe" hotels so there's the artificial limiting factor. Those three hotels probably only add 7,200 or so Express Passes per day (assuming 2,400 rooms and 3 people per room average). You'd have to think Disney would do something similar. Disney's Deluxes have 5,625 rooms (from Wikipedia) so figuring around 17,000 Max Passes a day spread out amoungst 4 parks doesn't seem too bad.

I actually wonder if it costs Universal in some ways. My previous experience with the EP staying at Royal Pacific showed that we could easily see everything we want to in both parks in one day. This makes us far less likely to spend money on things like food and souvenirs since we'll be hustling in the park to get maximum value of the higher hotel bill. If Disney were to move to a similar system, I could see splurging one night in the cheapest Deluxe I could, using the Maxpass (or whatever it's called) for one day in MK and then going value or even off-site for the rest of the trip. $400+ per night for a hotel room + MaxPass for EP, HS or AK wouldn't be worth it to us, but YMMV.......
 
WickstarRunner said:
Those three hotels probably only add 7,200 or so Express Passes per day (assuming 2,400 rooms and 3 people per room average). You'd have to think Disney would do something similar. Disney's Deluxes have 5,625 rooms
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Are you just counting Poly, CR, and GF? I guess I figured AK and WL would get them too. But even so, I definitely didn’t realize Universal had that many rooms in their deluxes. Now I’d be willing to bet they’re usually booked at lower capacity than Disney, but still—if you just consider number of potential heads, that’s way more comparable than I thought. Plus, like you said, spread over double the parks.

Hmmm I’ve always given Disney a pass (no pun intended but hey that’s funny) on not doing this. Now I’m kinda hacked about it! Gee thanks LOL. Great info—thanks for sharing!
 
Jrb1979 said:
I don't see that as a negative at all. I love being able to buy a fastpass to have a better chance of riding attractions multiple times in a day. What I would love to see the most at Disney is a way to be able to ride attractions multiple times in a day. If I want to ride Tower of Terror multiple times in a day plus other attractions I should be able to. With Disney's FP at this moment you really can't. I'm surprised so many are ok with riding an attraction once a day.
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you can ride it multiple times In a day as long as you stand in line.
 
It will be interesting to see what happens in a post COVID world.

Having every line at DW be Standby isn't going to cut it and we all know it. I don't believe MaxPass is the best option at DW and I can explain why if pressed.

If the FP+ system is getting replaced, I envision a reservation system that goes in tiers, with paid up-charged Tiers. Something along these lines (no pun attended):

Tier Base = a Reservation for one of the parks, two FP (from non headliners), and a meet and greet FP. You don't get to select the time, although indicate a preferred time.
Tier Plus = a Reservation from one of the parks, two headliners FP and a meet and greet FP. You don't get to select the preferred time of the attractions (Early AM, Late AM, Early PM, Late PM)
Tier Max = a Reservation from one of the parks, 3 FP (any of them you choose). You also get to choose the preferred time.

Plus and Max would have up-charged costs.

This system still allows Disney to control crowds through reservations, as well as an effective and profitable way to distribute FP. All tiers could "sell out", again this controls FP distribution. Disney also wouldn't have to redesign all the FP queues, since they would still be in usage.

Day of FP will be still be available once your initial 3 are consumed.
 
mattpeto said:
It will be interesting to see what happens in a post COVID world.

Having every line at DW be Standby isn't going to cut it and we all know it. I don't believe MaxPass is the best option at DW and I can explain why if pressed.

If the FP+ system is getting replaced, I envision a reservation system that goes in tiers, with paid up-charged Tiers. Something along these lines (no pun attended):

Tier Base = a Reservation for one of the parks, two FP (from non headliners), and a meet and greet FP. You don't get to select the time, although indicate a preferred time.
Tier Plus = a Reservation from one of the parks, two headliners FP and a meet and greet FP. You don't get to select the preferred time of the attractions (Early AM, Late AM, Early PM, Late PM)
Tier Max = a Reservation from one of the parks, 3 FP (any of them you choose). You also get to choose the preferred time.

Plus and Max would have up-charged costs.

This system still allows Disney to control crowds through reservations, as well as an effective and profitable way to distribute FP. All tiers could "sell out", again this controls FP distribution. Disney also wouldn't have to redesign all the FP queues, since they would still be in usage.

Day of FP will be still be available once your initial 3 are consumed.
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FPs where I don't get to select times? Hard pass.
 
mattpeto said:
Tier Base = a Reservation for one of the parks, two FP (from non headliners), and a meet and greet FP. You don't get to select the time, although indicate a preferred time.
Tier Plus = a Reservation from one of the parks, two headliners FP and a meet and greet FP. You don't get to select the preferred time of the attractions (Early AM, Late AM, Early PM, Late PM)
Tier Max = a Reservation from one of the parks, 3 FP (any of them you choose). You also get to choose the preferred time.
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We also have no interest in Meet & Greets.... they would have to give better choices to be realistic
 
Krandor said:
FPs where I don't get to select times? Hard pass.
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Outside of getting up at Day 65ish (generally when all FP are have been available at anytime) at 7:00 am or whatever, your chances to select headliner FP are quite limited.

You purchase the reservation pack and you are potentially guaranteed those slots well in advance.

I'm a proponent to the current system, but with reservations changing things this is how I could see a schedule unfold:

Park Ticket: book anytime
ADR: 90 Days
Park Reservations with Tier upgrades: 60+ Days
Finalize the remaining FP: 30 Days
 
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