avondale training journal, starting Dec. 2018 (comments welcome)

I am confused about "making sure you don't go faster than LR pace even if you feel good". I haven't done this. That's why I always calculate what my splits should be and keep to them religiously. Is there somewhere that you think I was going too fast?

This is in reference to: if you modify the next big weekend and do 60 min EA + 14 mile LR instead of 120 min EA + 14 mile LR, then don't fall into a trap of doing the 14 mile LR too fast. It hasn't happened yet, but it's a potential trap in a few weeks if you do modify.

So, for Oct. 25, you want me to only do 60 min EA? And hopefully no tennis. I will see about the tennis...right now, weekends are pretty much the only time I can play since we have very little indoor play. But maybe it will rain and keep me from having to cut it. :)

Ideally, yes. It's a gamble because we're removing your last big weekend. But I think you could use a confirmatory type run where you go at LR pace for 150 minutes and we see what happens to your HR/effort. Because you're not seeing the same thing during the 90 min M Tempo and 120 min EA runs. And I can't put my finger on what the issue has been during this training cycle and the LRs.

On Saturday, I ate a bunch. Saturday is sort of my cheat day. I did not track it carefully, but given the quantity of PB that I ate during that day, I would expect about 3000 cal. Sunday morning, bigger than usual breakfast about 4.5 hrs before the run with a 250-cal snack about 2 hrs before.

I was wondering about anemia...I have had that in the past, but now I take significant iron supplements. My last blood test in January showed all normal numbers for iron serum, iron saturation, and hemoglobin, and these numbers have been normal for a couple of years.

So you wouldn't think it was from a lack of nutrients then, if you consumed that much on Saturday. Anemia is always a possibility. It's hard to tease it apart from other things without a more recent blood measurement. I wonder if your "normal" values aren't enough. I found a few articles suggesting that endurance athletes might have a higher need for iron and thus need higher levels than normal. This article suggests specifically looking at ferritin levels.

https://www.outsideonline.com/2397065/how-much-iron-is-enough-for-athletes
It's definitely a conversation with your doctor though because I have no expertise in this area.
 
This is in reference to: if you modify the next big weekend and do 60 min EA + 14 mile LR instead of 120 min EA + 14 mile LR, then don't fall into a trap of doing the 14 mile LR too fast. It hasn't happened yet, but it's a potential trap in a few weeks if you do modify.

Oh, no, I won't do that. As I said, I always calculate the splits and follow them pretty religiously. You have me trained that hitting the lap pace within the window is the goal, not to go faster. :)




So you wouldn't think it was from a lack of nutrients then, if you consumed that much on Saturday. Anemia is always a possibility. It's hard to tease it apart from other things without a more recent blood measurement. I wonder if your "normal" values aren't enough. I found a few articles suggesting that endurance athletes might have a higher need for iron and thus need higher levels than normal. This article suggests specifically looking at ferritin levels.

https://www.outsideonline.com/2397065/how-much-iron-is-enough-for-athletes
It's definitely a conversation with your doctor though because I have no expertise in this area.

I haven't had my ferritin measured since 2016. At any rate, if iron is the problem, it won't be solved before the race. Previously, I was found to be anemic in August 2014 and even with lots of supplements, it took over a year to pull back up. I should be getting some blood tests at the end of the year, so I'll make sure it's looked at.

Thanks! We'll see how the next few weeks go. I guess there's not much else to do.
 
Week of Oct. 12 - 18, 2020

This was the twelfth week of my 16-week DopeyBadger training plan for the Bucks County Marathon on Nov. 8. Our Circumpolar Race Around the World team is still going - we just moved into Region 2!

I'm still adding in 1 - 2 short walk breaks on weekdays, as described previously.

Monday
  • Before breakfast: foam rolling and stretching
  • After work: 60-min walk on treadmill
Tuesday
  • Before breakfast: bodyweight leg workout and pull-ups
    • Hamstring curls: 2 x 16
    • Pull-ups: 2 x 10 (2 unassisted)
    • Glue bridge: 2 x 16
    • Chin-ups: 2 x 10 (2 unassisted)
    • Hamstring bridge: 2 x 8
    • Close-grip pull-ups: 2 x 10 (2 unassisted)
    • Bench step-ups: 2 x 20 per side
    • Superman: 2 x 8
  • After work:
    • 5EA
      • T+D 118, 1% correction
      • Target pace 11:56; with correction 12:03
      • With GAP adjustments, splits should have been: 12:04, 12:18, 12:15, 11:53, 12:12
      • Ave HR: 136 BPM - within my target range
      • Splits: 12:08, 12:18, 12:16, 11:55, 12:18
      • comments: I hit my splits for all miles!
      • Route: Sligo Creek Trail
Wednesday
  • Before breakfast: P90X Ab Ripper X and foam rolling and stretching
  • After work: 90-min walk around the neighborhood
Thursday before breakfast:
  • 1WU + 8M-tempo
    • T+D 105, 0.5% correction
    • Target M-tempo pace 9:56; with correction 9:59
    • With GAP adjustments, M-tempo splits should have been: 10:05, 10:04, 10:05, 9:59, 10:05, 9:59, 10:00, 10:05
    • Splits: 10:09, 10:01, 10:04, 9:55, 10:04, 9:57, 10:00, 10:05
    • comments: I hit my splits for all miles!
    • Route: Rock Creek Trail
Friday before breakfast:
  • 5EA
    • T+D 106, 0.5% correction, rained for second half of run
    • Target pace 11:56; with correction 12:00
    • With GAP adjustments, splits should have been: 12:01, 12:15, 12:12, 11:50, 12:09
    • Ave HR: 133 BPM - within my target range
    • Splits: 12:08, 12:13, 12:17, 11:57, 12:12
    • comments: I hit my splits for all miles!
    • Route: Sligo Creek Trail
Saturday:
  • Before breakfast:
    • 6EB + strides
      • T+D < 100
      • Target pace 11:08
      • With GAP adjustments, splits should have been 11:14, 11:13, 11:14, 11:08, 11:09, 11:14
      • Ave HR: 137 BPM - within my target range
      • Splits: 11:19, 11:17, 11:17, 11:13, 11:13, 11:15
      • comments: I hit my splits for all miles!
      • Route: Rock Creek Trail
  • Rest of day: walking around the National Zoo for about 4.5 hours and 3.7 miles
Sunday
  • Before breakfast:
    • 6LR
      • T+D < 100
      • Target pace 10:50
      • With GAP adjustments, splits should have been 10:56, 10:55, 10:56, 10:50, 10:51, 10:56
      • Ave HR: 142 BPM - below my target range
      • Splits: 11:01, 10:54, 10:59, 10:56, 10:52, 11:01
      • comments: I hit my splits for all miles!
      • Route: Rock Creek Trail
  • Before lunch: walk to Great Falls, 1.65 miles
  • In afternoon: 1.5-mi walk around the neighborhood

Health

My headache is not so bad now that I have gotten a new prescription for cyclobenzaprine.
 
@DopeyBadger , work is really busy for me right now, so I haven't had time to write up my weekly summary. However, I nailed the 14LR yesterday. Probably because the T+D was about 45 degrees lower, but we can discuss when I post the summary.

Question: 1WU + 9M-tempo is on my schedule for Wednesday. Is this intentional or a remnant from the adjustment to the plan for the earlier marathon? I'm concerned about the effort involved with this run so close to my race. Please let me know what you think.
 


@DopeyBadger , work is really busy for me right now, so I haven't had time to write up my weekly summary. However, I nailed the 14LR yesterday. Probably because the T+D was about 45 degrees lower, but we can discuss when I post the summary.

Question: 1WU + 9M-tempo is on my schedule for Wednesday. Is this intentional or a remnant from the adjustment to the plan for the earlier marathon? I'm concerned about the effort involved with this run so close to my race. Please let me know what you think.

Temps dropping and also dropping the Saturday fatigue inducer from 90 to 60 min sounds like it did the trick. Based on your dehydration experiences, I'd be willing to bet it had more to do with temps than the Saturday run, but I can't say that for certain.

Intentional. The race is 11/8. The 1+9 is 10 days prior to the event. So plenty of time to recover. You won't make many noticeable gains from it, but it does ensure you don't peak too soon or go from peaking into recovered mode (stale feeling on race day). It's a classic Hansons training plan run. If you want to make it slightly easier, then be all means go ahead. Instead of 9 miles at M Tempo, you could do a progression 10 second cutdown run. Start at 12 min/mile and do:

11:30
11:20
11:10
11:00
10:50
10:40
10:30
10:20
10:10
10:00

Much easier than a 9 mile M Tempo, but duration wise in the same ball park at 1:45ish. A back of the envelope calculation says this would be 77% of the workout the 9 mile M Tempo would be. So only a 23% reduction in training load (with the known caveat that training load is simply a tool and not everything yada yada yada).

I'd be careful pulling the plug too much on the training load though. Because having that feeling of staleness is a real downer on race day. So I probably wouldn't do less than a 90 min run on Wednesday. It's also why next Tuesday (11/3) you have 9 minutes of fast running in a mini progression. It's just meant to push the legs a touch, but by all means is a really low level workout that you will easily recover from.

As an example, two weeks ago (10/12-10/18), I was feeling pretty run down and the quality of my workouts wasn't great. So I pulled back more than originally scheduled. I felt better later in the week. But by 10/20, that feeling great had pushed into being over-recovered. My body started to enter "race mode". So that first workout on 10/20 wasn't great.

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Legs were heavy. Felt fatigued and definitely slowed down towards the end. It was an easy day, so I didn't push it. But the intent of the run of 75 min was just to bring my training load back up to push me out of the recovered/race zone. And by the next workout (and for the rest of the week) things were back to feeling good again. Here towards the end of training we try to walk a fine line between being race ready and recovered. Swing too far in either direction and it'll influence the race results. At the end of the day, you have to trust your own history and how you're personally feeling. I knew I needed to back off, did, and then knew I needed to kick it up a little to get back in gear, and did. It's your race and you have to decide personally what's best in these last 14 days.
 
Week of Oct. 19 - 25, 2020

This was the thirteenth week of my 16-week DopeyBadger training plan for the Bucks County Marathon on Nov. 8. Our Circumpolar Race Around the World team is still going - we are in Colombia in Region 2!

I'm still adding in 1 - 2 short walk breaks on weekdays, as described previously.

Monday
  • Before breakfast: foam rolling and stretching
  • Evening: 2-hr tennis doubles match - my partner and I won 6-3, 6-3, and our team won overall, too!
Tuesday
  • Before breakfast: bodyweight leg workout and pull-ups
    • Hamstring curls: 2 x 17
    • Pull-ups: 2 x 10 (2 unassisted)
    • Glute bridge: 2 x 17
    • Chin-ups: 2 x 10 (2 unassisted)
    • Hamstring bridge: 2 x 9
    • Close-grip pull-ups: 2 x 10 (2 unassisted)
    • Bench step-ups: 2 x 17 per side
    • Superman: 2 x 9
  • After work:
    • 5EA
      • T+D 128, 2% correction, rained for second half of run
      • Target pace 11:56; with correction 12:10
      • With GAP adjustments, splits should have been: 12:19, 12:24, 12:37, 12:24, 12:34
      • Ave HR: 133 BPM - within my target range
      • Splits: 12:12, 12:25, 12:39, 12:30, 12:37
      • comments: I hit my splits for all miles!
      • Route: old loop around the neighborhood
Wednesday
  • Before breakfast: P90X Ab Ripper X and foam rolling and stretching
  • After work:
    • 1WU + 9M-tempo
      • T+D 138, 3% correction
      • Target M-tempo pace 9:56; with correction 10:14
      • With GAP adjustments, M-tempo splits should have been: 10:19, 10:20, 10:22, 10:26, 10:15, 10:16, 10:14, 10:15, 10:20
      • M-tempo splits: 10:17, 10:24, 10:20, 10:36, 10:17, 10:17, 10:12, 10:24, 12:58
      • comments: My 4th mile was too slow, but I'm pretty sure this was a GPS glitch because my lap pace jumped up suddenly toward the end of the mile and not enough time to "fix" it. I was right on target before then.
      • comments: I faded for sure on the 8th mile. Could not speed up to reach the pace I needed. I was out of gas, and did the last mile at WU.
      • comments: I brought water but no calories. Possibly this caused me to run out of gas, since this run was about 1:45 in length. However, I did not have the stomach-bloat feeling.
      • comments: Neither of my ears plugged up, even though I sweated buckets - enough to fill the inside of my shoes so that I squished.
      • Route: Rock Creek Trail, going north
Thursday
  • Before breakfast: P90X3 The Challenge and 1/2 Incinerator (187 push-ups) and foam rolling and stretching
  • After work:
    • 5EA
      • T+D 136, 3% correction
      • Target pace 11:56; with correction 12:17
      • With GAP adjustments, splits should have been: 12:18, 12:32, 12:29, 12:07, 12:26
      • Ave HR: 136 BPM - within my target zone
      • Splits: 12:19, 12:36, 12:29, 12:06, 12:27
      • comments: I hit my splits for all miles, despite the fact that my legs were very tired.
      • Route: Sligo Creek Trail, going north
Friday
  • Before breakfast: foam rolling and stretching
  • After work: 70-min walk on treadmill
Saturday
  • Before lunch:
    • 5EA
      • T+D 130, 2% correction
      • Target pace 11:56; with correction 12:10
      • With GAP adjustments, splits should have been: 12:11, 12:25, 12:22, 12:00, 12:19
      • Ave HR: 137 BPM - within my target range
      • Splits: 12:13, 12:24, 12:23, 12:03, 12:24
      • comments: I hit my splits for all miles!
      • Route: Sligo Creek Trail, going north
  • Before dinner: 4-mile walk through the neighborhood
Sunday before dinner:
  • 14LR
    • T+D ~86, T ~45 F, light rain or first few miles and last few miles
    • Target pace 10:50
    • With GAP adjustments, splits should have been: 10:56, 10:55, 10:56, 10:58, 11:03, 10:51, 10:52, 10:50, 10:51, 10:55, 10:56, 10:50, 10:51, 10:56
    • Ave HR: 151 BPM - within my target range
    • Splits: 10:54, 10:58, 10:54, 11:00, 11:10, 10:54, 10:53, 10:51, 10:49, 10:57, 11:01, 10:52, 10:53, 10:57
    • comments: I hit my splits for all miles!
    • comments: Fueling:
      • 2 100-cal Maurten gels immediately before run
      • 1 100-cal Maurten gel at mile 2
      • 1 100-cal pack of Sport Beans at mile 4
      • I took 2L of water with 300 cal of Tailwind to drink throughout. I ended up only drinking about half of it.
    • comments: I did not get the stomach-bloat feeling. My ears did not plug up. My HR went up only a bit throughout the run, as would be expected
    • Route: Rock Creek Trail, going north

Long Run Analysis
This 14 LR felt much more like "me" - I used to reel off distances at LR pace without too much trouble. Until recently. It definitely got harder over the course of the run, but not so much that I got in trouble.

So what made this 14LR go better than the one two weeks before? The fueling stayed the same, so it seems like that isn't the thing. I did less activity the day before, so that probably helped, although I really felt tired before the run and didn't think I was going to run it so well. I think the biggest difference is that the T+D was literally 50 deg cooler for this 14LR than the one two weeks ago. I seem to always get flattened by the heat, even though it wasn't "hot" two weeks ago. In fact for the 13LR two weeks before that and the 12LR two weeks before that, the T+D was 140s, and I failed on all of them.

Next Week
@DopeyBadger , I misremembered this upcoming week. The 1WU + 9M-tempo is scheduled for Thursday. Currently, the forecast is lots and lots of rain on Thursday. If the forecast holds up, would it be OK to move it up a day to Wednesday?

Health

The headache continues. I've been really, really busy at work and having to be on my computer too much, which makes it worse.

 


@DopeyBadger , I misremembered this upcoming week. The 1WU + 9M-tempo is scheduled for Thursday. Currently, the forecast is lots and lots of rain on Thursday. If the forecast holds up, would it be OK to move it up a day to Wednesday?

You can certainly do it on Wednesday. I'd probably aim to ease into it based on the one day sooner and because of how the last one went.
 
Week of Oct. 26 - Nov. 1, 2020

This was the fourteenth week of my 16-week DopeyBadger training plan for the Bucks County Marathon on Nov. 8. The race organizers held another marathon (postponed from spring) on Oct. 31 and apparently things went well, because my race is still go! It's my birthday on Friday, but I am really planning to celebrate on Sunday, hopefully with a good race result.

I'm still adding in 1 - 2 short walk breaks on weekdays, as described previously.


Monday
  • Before breakfast: foam rolling and stretching
  • After work: 45-min walk on the treadmill
Tuesday
  • Before breakfast: bodyweight leg workout and pull-ups
    • Hamstring curls: 2 x 18
    • Pull-ups: 2 x 10 (2 unassisted)
    • Glute bridge: 2 x 18
    • Chin-ups: 2 x 10 (2 unassisted)
    • Hamstring bridge: 2 x 10
    • Close-grip pull-ups: 2 x 10 (2 unassisted)
    • Bench step-ups: 2 x 18 per side
    • Superman: 2 x 10
  • After work:
    • 5EA
      • T+D 114, 1% correction
      • Target pace 11:56; with correction 12:03
      • With GAP adjustments, splits should have been: 12:04, 12:18, 12:15, 11:53, 12:12
      • Ave HR: 140 BPM - at the top end of my target range
      • Splits: 12:07, 12:16, 12:15, 11:57, 12:18
      • comments: I hit my splits for all miles!
      • Route: Sligo Creek Trail, going north
Wednesday
  • Before breakfast: P90X Ab Ripper X and foam rolling and stretching
  • After work:
    • 10-mi progression run
      • T+D 132, 2% correction
      • Splits for each mile: 11:30, 11:20, 11:10, 11:00, 10:50, 10:40, 10:30, 10:20, 10:10, 10:00
      • With correction, splits should have been: 11:43, 11:33, 11:23, 11:13, 11:03, 10:53, 10:43, 10:32, 10:22, 10:12
      • Splits: 11:45, 11:39, 11:27, 11:17, 11:06, 10:58, 10:43, 10:32, 10:21, 10:12
      • comments: I hit my splits for all miles!
      • comments: DopeyBadger said I could do this run or the 1WU + 9M-tempo scheduled for Thursday. I move the speed workout up to Wednesday because we were supposed to get so much rain on Thursday (we got 2.5 inches). I'm glad I went with the easier progression run, because it was really hard toward the end. I saw what is likely my max HR: 181 BPM.
      • HS track
Thursday
  • Before breakfast: foam rolling and stretching
  • After work: 90-min walk on the treadmill
Friday
  • Before breakfast: P90X3 The Challenge and 1/2 Incinerator (187 push-ups)
  • After work:
    • 5EA (originally scheduled for Saturday)
      • T ~ 50 F
      • Target pace 11:56
      • With GAP adjustments, splits should have been: 12:05, 12:10, 12:23, 12:10, 12:20
      • Ave HR: 135 BPM - within my target range
      • Splits: 12:30, 12:03, 12:14, 12:13, 12:25
      • comments: Right at the end of my first mile, I had to answer my phone and my watch didn't pause. I actually hit my splits for all miles.
      • Route: old loop around the neighborhood
Saturday
  • After breakfast: 2.25-hr tennis doubles round robin
  • Before dinner:
    • 60 min EB (originally 5.5EB scheduled for Thursday)
      • T ~ 48 F
      • Distance: 4.45 mi
      • Ave HR: 138 BPM - within my target range
      • Splits: 13:26, 14:00, 14:35, 12:20, 12:40
      • comments: This was fun! It was still pretty muddy from the rain on Thursday.
      • Route: Northwest Branch Trail and Rachel Carson Greenway
Sunday before dinner:
  • 6EB
    • T+D 105, 0.5% correction
    • Target pace 11:08; with correction 11:11
    • With GAP adjustments, splits should have been: 11:17, 11:16, 11:17, 11:11, 11:12, 11:16
    • Ave HR: 145 BPM - above my target range
    • Splits: 11:12, 11:27, 11:20, 11:15, 11:16, 11:15
    • comments: My watch HRM was doing strange things - going up into the 160s for no reason.
    • Route: Rock Creek Trail, going north

Health

My headache has been extra bad the last few days - don't know why. Got my flu shot on Saturday.


Race nutrition:
@DopeyBadger , I would like your opinion about my race nutrition, please. The day before the race, I'll be carb-loading following one of your posts - I've done this before.

For the last 14-miler, I had two 100-cal Maurten gels right before the run. I had another gel at 2 miles and additional one at 4 miles. I had 100 cal of Sport Beans at 6 miles. I carried 2L of water with 300 cal of Tailwind, although I only ended up drinking about 2/3 of it.

For the marathon, I will eat a normal breakfast at about 4am, with the race start at 9am. Probably I will take a small snack on the drive to the race. Then I was thinking about this:
  • 2 Maurten gels right before the race (200 cal)
  • 4 more gels, every 2 miles (400 cal)
  • 2L of water....with 300 cal Tailwind? More?
Other thoughts:
  • I have more Sport Beans that I could bring...I'm not sure if I eat them after the gels if they will get into my system.
  • The course is a half-marathon out-and-back that is repeated, so halfway through we will be back at the start. We are allowed to drop off and pick up a bottle at this point . I'm not sure if I should take advantage of this. I'm not sure how this will be organized and how much time it will take.
  • Currently, the forecast low is about 50 F and high mid-60s F. If it's not too humid, that shouldn't be too bad.
 
Go get 'em! I'll be at the half the day before so give me any details you want me to try to pay attention to in case I can do some reconnaissance for you.
 
Race nutrition:
@DopeyBadger , I would like your opinion about my race nutrition, please. The day before the race, I'll be carb-loading following one of your posts - I've done this before.

For the last 14-miler, I had two 100-cal Maurten gels right before the run. I had another gel at 2 miles and additional one at 4 miles. I had 100 cal of Sport Beans at 6 miles. I carried 2L of water with 300 cal of Tailwind, although I only ended up drinking about 2/3 of it.

For the marathon, I will eat a normal breakfast at about 4am, with the race start at 9am. Probably I will take a small snack on the drive to the race. Then I was thinking about this:
  • 2 Maurten gels right before the race (200 cal)
  • 4 more gels, every 2 miles (400 cal)
  • 2L of water....with 300 cal Tailwind? More?
Other thoughts:
  • I have more Sport Beans that I could bring...I'm not sure if I eat them after the gels if they will get into my system.
  • The course is a half-marathon out-and-back that is repeated, so halfway through we will be back at the start. We are allowed to drop off and pick up a bottle at this point . I'm not sure if I should take advantage of this. I'm not sure how this will be organized and how much time it will take.

You know the advice. Nothing new. So you do what you've done before as practice in training. Nothing more and nothing less.

My advice, think back to the last time you carb loaded and decide if you need to make any adjustments. I've moved away from 80% from liquid source and more towards 50/50. Mostly because I felt famished during race day. I think it worked well for my Nov 2019 HM and Disney 2020 M. So evaluate whether you need to make any tweaks.

Is the timing of the breakfast and run normal or abnormal compared to training?

Currently, the forecast low is about 50 F and high mid-60s F. If it's not too humid, that shouldn't be too bad.

Use weather underground to get humidity projections. Where does that put the T+D at beginning and end? How does that compare to the last 4 marathon tempo and long runs (and performances in those)?

The most important consideration is: What do you want to accomplish in this marathon? What's the goal (s)? What is your pace strategy? Have you found someone's past performance on Strava in order to pre-calculate GAP effects?
 
Not sure if we discussed this prior, but be aware there is a stair climb and descent at mile 8.25/18. Not sure what that entails.

With a start time of 9am, you're looking at running from 9-2pm-ish. So that's T+D of 104-123. Minimal cloud cover and low wind. The bad news is the T+D is climbing from today to next week Wednesday before the weather breaks. So the weather could still shift a day. Something to keep an eye on.

I went through and found your M Tempo and weekend LRs from the past months. I assessed the performance based on your words and the T+D of each run.

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While not definitive, when the T+D was above 132 you usually had a fade despite the T+D adjustment to pace. When the T+D was less than 118, you usually had a strong run. This race is going to fall grey area between your good runs and fading runs, but no where close to the T+D 86 you had for the last long run.
 
Not sure if we discussed this prior, but be aware there is a stair climb and descent at mile 8.25/18. Not sure what that entails.

With a start time of 9am, you're looking at running from 9-2pm-ish. So that's T+D of 104-123. Minimal cloud cover and low wind. The bad news is the T+D is climbing from today to next week Wednesday before the weather breaks. So the weather could still shift a day. Something to keep an eye on.

I went through and found your M Tempo and weekend LRs from the past months. I assessed the performance based on your words and the T+D of each run.

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While not definitive, when the T+D was above 132 you usually had a fade despite the T+D adjustment to pace. When the T+D was less than 118, you usually had a strong run. This race is going to fall grey area between your good runs and fading runs, but no where close to the T+D 86 you had for the last long run.

No stair climb....the race is not following the usual course. It is following the "Chasing the Unicorn" course, which is a HM out-and-back done twice. It does not have stairs. There can be some confusing info because they are not great about updating all of their website info for 2020. However, I did run into that reference and found that they are using a different course than they did in 2019.

I am crossing my fingers that the forecast improves.
 
You know the advice. Nothing new. So you do what you've done before as practice in training. Nothing more and nothing less.

Well, I'm going for longer than 14 miles, so I thought I would add in the extra three Maurten gels. I will probably continue the every 2 miles pattern to get them in early.

My advice, think back to the last time you carb loaded and decide if you need to make any adjustments. I've moved away from 80% from liquid source and more towards 50/50. Mostly because I felt famished during race day. I think it worked well for my Nov 2019 HM and Disney 2020 M. So evaluate whether you need to make any tweaks.

Honestly, I've always done a lot more solid calories for this. It's only about 2800 cal, which I have no problem eating. I get 400 cal from Gatorade.

Is the timing of the breakfast and run normal or abnormal compared to training?

I don't usually run in the morning. I usually run before dinner. I don't generally have a problem with my breakfast with races. I was mentioning it so that you knew I had eaten before the race and when in case you thought it mattered.


Use weather underground to get humidity projections. Where does that put the T+D at beginning and end? How does that compare to the last 4 marathon tempo and long runs (and performances in those)?

The most important consideration is: What do you want to accomplish in this marathon? What's the goal (s)? What is your pace strategy? Have you found someone's past performance on Strava in order to pre-calculate GAP effects?

I was looking up the weather info, but it seems you already have. Thanks!

I'm planning to run a consistent 10:45 pace if I can. That will get me about a 4:45 finish, which would be a new PR.

I tried looking for the "Chasing the Unicorn" on Strava to see if I could find someone else's race, but it seems like I can never find anything using the search on Strava. I told it to search "segments", but it gives me everything with "unicorn", which is some 7000+ results. I feel like a grumpy old person, but it's frustrating when the search is so useless.

I don't really expect much GAP adjustment because canal paths are not usually too inclined. I've done a couple races on different canals. Also it seems that we can go on the path under the canal-crossings, so that will be good.
 
Amusingly, the race says it will give awards to the top three in each age group, with typical 5-year age groups. Since there are only about 220 runners, I might be able to get an age group award because there aren't more than three in my age group! :rotfl2:
 
No stair climb....the race is not following the usual course. It is following the "Chasing the Unicorn" course, which is a HM out-and-back done twice. It does not have stairs. There can be some confusing info because they are not great about updating all of their website info for 2020. However, I did run into that reference and found that they are using a different course than they did in 2019.

Well that's good news!

I am crossing my fingers that the forecast improves.

Me too!

Well, I'm going for longer than 14 miles, so I thought I would add in the extra three Maurten gels. I will probably continue the every 2 miles pattern to get them in early.

Yea, I'd do the same "rate". So if you were doing 1 per 2 miles in training, then that would be the same rate despite going for 26.2 instead of 14 miles.

Honestly, I've always done a lot more solid calories for this. It's only about 2800 cal, which I have no problem eating. I get 400 cal from Gatorade.

Sounds good.

I don't usually run in the morning. I usually run before dinner. I don't generally have a problem with my breakfast with races. I was mentioning it so that you knew I had eaten before the race and when in case you thought it mattered.

Sounds good. What's the timing between lunch and starting your runs then?

I tried looking for the "Chasing the Unicorn" on Strava to see if I could find someone else's race, but it seems like I can never find anything using the search on Strava. I told it to search "segments", but it gives me everything with "unicorn", which is some 7000+ results. I feel like a grumpy old person, but it's frustrating when the search is so useless.

I don't really expect much GAP adjustment because canal paths are not usually too inclined. I've done a couple races on different canals. Also it seems that we can go on the path under the canal-crossings, so that will be good.

Found one, but no GAP:

https://www.strava.com/activities/4049113891
It seems very flat and no need for much of any GAP adjustments.

I go to the website results and then search the names in Strava.

I'm planning to run a consistent 10:45 pace if I can. That will get me about a 4:45 finish, which would be a new PR.

Sounds like a plan. Effort wise that'll end up probably close to a full go effort given how you've responded to the T+Ds thus far. So mentally go in being prepared to work for every mile. And don't get caught in a trap early on of potentially feeling too good because that weather will only get worse as the day goes on.
 
https://www.strava.com/activities/4049113891
It seems very flat and no need for much of any GAP adjustments.

I go to the website results and then search the names in Strava.

Well, isn't that clever! It's like you've done this before or something. :)



Sounds like a plan. Effort wise that'll end up probably close to a full go effort given how you've responded to the T+Ds thus far. So mentally go in being prepared to work for every mile. And don't get caught in a trap early on of potentially feeling too good because that weather will only get worse as the day goes on.

Yeah, hopefully I will get a good day (in terms of my own conditioning and feeling) for once.
 
Week of Nov. 2 - 7, 2020

This was the fifteenth week of my DopeyBadger training plan for the Bucks County Marathon on Nov. 8. I'm summarizing the week up to the marathon. My birthday was yesterday, but I'm planning more of a celebration tomorrow after the race.

I'm still adding in 1 - 2 short walk breaks on weekdays, as described previously.


Monday
  • Before breakfast: foam rolling and stretching
  • After dinner: 65-min walk on the treadmill
Tuesday
  • Before breakfast: foam rolling and stretching
  • After work:
    • 3WU + 6min @HM-tempo + 2min @CV + 1min @5k + 1CD
      • Target HM-tempo pace: 9:32; target CV pace: 9:00; target 5k pace: 8:45.
      • Splits: 9:30, 9:03, 8:30
      • comments: My 5k split was a little too fast.
      • HS track
Wednesday
  • Before breakfast: foam rolling and stretching
  • After work:
    • 4EA
      • Target pace 11:56
      • With GAP adjustments, splits should have been: 12:05, 12:10, 12:23, 12:20
      • Ave HR: 134 BPM - within my target zone
      • Splits: 12:02, 12:06, 12:16, 12:17
      • Route: old loop around the neighborhood
Thursday
  • Before breakfast: foam rolling and stretching
  • After work:
    • 3EB
      • Target pace: 11:08
      • With GAP adjustments, splits should have been: 11:17, 11:22, 11:35
      • Ave HR: 140 BPM - at the top end of my target range
      • Splits: 11:11, 11:33, 11:43
      • comments: I hit my splits for all miles.
      • Route: old loop around the neighborhood
Friday
  • Before breakfast: foam rolling and stretching
  • After dinner: 60-min walk on the treadmill
Saturday
  • Before breakfast:
    • 2EB
      • Target pace 11:08
      • With GAP adjustments, splits should have been: 11:09, 11:17
      • Ave HR: 140 BPM - at the top end of my target range
      • Splits: 11:23, 11:23
      • comments: My GPS glitched on the first mile and sent me somewhere else for a measurement or two.
      • Route: Sligo Creek Trail, going north

Bucks County Marathon

The weather forecast says the T+D at the 9am start time will be 100. I'm hoping to finish in 4:45, and the T+D at 2pm is predicted to be 120. Hopefully this won't end up being too bad for me.

My bib number is 169, and so I'm supposed to be 169th to start. We'll see how it goes!


Health

My headache has been worse this week.
 
2020 Bucks County Marathon
Nov. 8, 2020
Washington Crossing, PA


I decided to run this marathon because it was actually happening in person and it was only a week different in date from the marathon I had been training for (which went virtual).

I had followed DopeyBadger's training plan, but had some issues with the long runs, which have been chronicled in this journal. I carb-loaded the day before the race, following DopeyBadger's one-day protocol.

The day of the race, I ate a normal breakfast at about 4:00am. It was a 2.5-hr drive to the race, and I ate a packet of Sport Beans and a couple PB Oreos on the way. I got to the start area at about 7:15am - bib pick-up started at 7:30am and the start time was 9:00am.

The race had several covid safety protocols. The port-a-potties in the starting area had their doors staked open and an L-shaped blind was placed in front of each one, the idea being that you go "around the corner" into the potty and therefore don't have to touch the door to open and close it. There was a rope that you strung across the entrance when you went in and there was hand sanitizer right outside. This was clever, but I'm not sure whether it was that much of an improvement.

On the course, runners were responsible for replenishing their own water. There were several water stations placed along the course that had foot pumps so you could pump water into your bottle without touching any of the equipment with your hands. I always carry my own hydration, so I didn't use this.

We were supposed to wear masks until we actually crossed the start line and keep our masks with us so we could put them back on as soon as we finished.

The race was limited to 220 runners, and I'm not sure if that was for covid or because of a limit imposed by the state park. At any rate, they assigned bib numbers by predicted finish times, faster runners getting lower numbers. We were supposed to line up at the start in bib number order and thus there shouldn't be much passing during the race, since the faster runners would start ahead of the slower runners.

Finally, we were told that there would be a 40-foot chute leading up to the start line; when the person ahead of you crossed the start line, you could start running so that in principle everyone should start 40 feet apart. This photo is before the race start.

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Well, these last two protocols were not really followed. People were not lining up in bib order at all. The race director shouted directions at us about this (I think) and then we got in some semblance of bib order. The 40-foot spacing did not happen at all. We all jogged through the starting chute a few feet apart. The first few tenths of a mile of the race were on park roads and rather wide, so there was lots of passing and grouping in this area.

I had two 100-cal Maurten gels a few minutes before the race. I had a 24-oz bottle of water with 100-cal of Tailwind that I planned to finish in about the first 10 miles and carried a hydration vest with 2L of water and an additional 300-cal of Tailwind. I brought four more 100-cal Maurten gels with me to eat every 2 miles, and I brought a 100-cal packet of Sport Beans for after that.

I wanted to run about a 10:45 min/mi pace throughout the race to get a time of about 4:45, which would be a new PR by almost 5 minutes. After the very start of the race, the course was on the tow-path along the canal along the Delaware River. It was a mix of fine gravel and packed dirt and pleasantly flat. The course was a double out-and-back: out for a quarter marathon, then back to the start, then repeat.

My first 7 miles were right where I wanted, with splits 10:48, 10:44, 10:42, 10:41, 10:46, 10:48, 10:47. I had my first three Maurten gels on schedule at 2, 4, and 6 miles.

This 30-something woman started chatting me up sometime in there, remarking that she liked my hydration vest and she hadn't brought hers. We were told that since we were going back to the start in order to repeat the course for the second half, we could leave a bottle there to pick up for the second half. She had just left all her water there...yes, she was going to do a half-marathon with no water (she also didn't have a bottle to use the filling stations). Oh, yes, it was her first marathon. But she did 16-mile training runs with no water, so she thought it would be fine. Sigh. I don't mind chatting during a race, but she was not the sort of personality that I wanted to chat with.

So now we get to the temperature. The weather forecast predicted that the day would be unseasonably warm, with a high of about 76 F instead of the average 61 F. At the start time, we were in the mid-50s F, but it was consistently sunny all day. Since it's fall, a lot of the leaves had already fallen, and so there was very little shade on the course. But for the first quarter, we were heading north, so the Sun was on our backs.

When we turned back south for the second quarter, it was full Sun with the direction being right in our eyes. And by then it was hotter and it felt so much hotter facing the Sun. My HR really started going up, my stomach was feeling the weird bloated feeling like I had in bad long training runs, and my breathing was bad. It was pretty clear that while I could keep up my planned pace for awhile longer, it certainly wasn't going to be for the whole race. I mentally weighed options during mile 8 and started to slow things down. No-water girl had been following me since mile 3 or 4 until now, and I told her I was going to ease up and she should go ahead.

So I've done three marathons previous to this one, and two have been similarly unseasonably hot and sunny and those two have both turned into death marches. Even worse, I was so inward-focused on them that I didn't really pay attention around me, and so I missed a lot of the crowd support and scenery and experience. I decided that since I was going to miss my goal, I would at least enjoy being there. This race was probably the most scenic I have ever done. For most of the course, we were within view of the Delaware River, which was beautifully lined with autumn trees. The canal was nice-looking water and also lined with pretty trees. There were bridges over the canal, which were quaint-looking. The race was not crowded. The first photo below shows the canal and the second photo shows the river.

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So I slowed down. I finally ate the last Maurten gel at mile 10 - I hadn't felt good enough to eat it at mile 8 as planned. (I never did eat the pack of Sport Beans.) Mile 8 was 11:21, and then for miles 9 - 13, I did something like run slowly (approx 12:00) for 0.75 miles and walking 0.25 miles. My splits were 13:01, 13:23, 13:06, 12:57, 13:11. I finished my bottle of Tailwind as planned and started on the hydration vest Tailwind at around mile 11 or so. My ears plugged up before I finished the first half.

As I was getting toward the end of the first half, my phone managed to call 911 without my permission. The touch-screen on the phone sometimes manages to type in lots of numbers to dial, but has never actually dialed. Somehow something triggered the emergency call. I realized I was calling someone and pulled out the phone to stop the call. But too late - emergency services called me back to make sure I was OK. They wanted to know where I was so they could let local emergency services know to desist, but they didn't know "Bucks County Marathon". I did manage to remember the name of the park we started in and apologized profusely for accidentally calling them!

For the third quarter of the race, it was so nice to be going north again and no longer be facing the Sun. Even so, I was really feeling it and started alternating 0.25-mi slow running and 0.25-mi walking. My splits slowed down even more.

However, it was nice to see the faster runners coming back down the course. Not too long after I started on the second half, the first male runner (yes, bib 1) came zooming by and I could hear the cheers at the finish line a few minutes later when he got there. I also saw no-water girl, and yes, she had her water - two small flasks. (She ended up finishing in about 5:05.)

After I got to the turn-around to start the last quarter of the race, the Sun had moved enough so that it was quite so fierce in my eyes. My splits were around 14:00. I was realizing just how slow my finish time was going to be and tried to pick it up or do some longer running intervals, but my heart wasn't in it.

My 2L of Tailwind started to have an issue. I had frozen it overnight. I took it out of the freezer at 4:30am and didn't start drinking it until about 11am...no problem at first. But I realized in the last quarter of the race that even by then it hadn't completely thawed yet and I was running out of the liquid part. I made it through almost the whole race by conserving it a bit.

I was also running out of battery on my Garmin Venu. From prior use, I knew it wouldn't be a problem for 5 hours or even 5:15, but I was going to be well past that. I turned the screen brightness down and turned off the bluetooth, but too late...it died at about 25.5 miles. Fortunately it did save the activity and I was able to upload it once I recharged it a bit after the race.

I had estimated that my watch would read about 26.45 mi at the end, so I still had about a mile left. I managed to very slowly run most of that.

I finished in 5:41:39, my slowest marathon by about 16 minutes. The photo below is from after the race.

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The race was limited to 220 runners, but only 132 were listed in the results. I don't know if the race actually filled, or if there were a lot of DNS and/or DNF. Probably a combination of all of those. The highest bib number in the results was 195, so it does seem like the assigned most of the bib numbers.

I ended up being 122 out of 132 runners, which was more demoralizing than my time, honestly. I was 43 out of 46 women, and 6 out of 8 in my age group. I thought there were still more than 10 runners left behind me, but the course was open to the public, and so I guess I had that impression from all the other people on the course.

After the race, I was covered in salt and dirt. I think I was underhydrated toward the end of the race because I had not realized that I had stopped sweating until I slammed a bottle of water after the finish and suddenly had a bunch of salty sweat running into my eyes. Also, I realized that I had gotten a sunburn - in November! Not a bad one, but definitely there.

I went to a convenience store bathroom and cleaned up and changed clothes. With my long drive home, I didn't want to be so uncomfortable the whole time. It was a good thing I did that, because an hour into my trip, there was a bad accident on the interstate less than a mile ahead of me - too close to be able to exit. We sat there without moving for an hour. Fortunately the rest of the trip home was uneventful.

My husband and I got Italian meals delivered for dinner and then I had @DopeyBadger 's PB pie to celebrate my birthday (which was two days before) and me finishing the race.

I'm trying to think of any other details that I'd like to record so that I remember. I may edit this to add anything else that I think of.

The race was well-organized, as I mentioned before, the course was beautiful, so I would recommend it. I may try it again in the future because it's not supposed to be so warm!

It was not the race I was hoping for, but unfortunately what I suspected that I would get, given the predicted weather. My husband says I need to run a race in Antarctica in June, and then I could be sure of having cold weather!
 
Great race report! I'm sorry you didn't get the time you wanted. It was very unseasonably hot though. I ran the half there the day before and also melted in the heat. Your feelings were about the same as mine. I agree it was a beautiful course, also was wishing for more shade, and I also got a sunburn! The lineup and spacing at the start line were managed a bit better it seems the day before, in my race.
 

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