DCL and their dragged out cancellations...

Did I miss something? I’m booked on the May EBTA but cannot cancel as far as I know? I’d love to though!
You can cancel for a 100% credit, but not refund at this time. The EBTA and Magic‘s early summer sailings are no longer on sale.
 
Did I miss something? I’m booked on the May EBTA but cannot cancel as far as I know? I’d love to though!

The below from the Disney website is a little cryptic since it doesn't specify that "European Sailings" includes transatlantic. But it does say "mid-may" and the EBTA is mid-may, whereas the first sailing with the European departure port is more what I would consider "late may" so I would say the EBTA is included.

Disney Magic European Sailings

Currently, we have not made any changes to our European itineraries, which are not scheduled to begin until mid-May. We continue to monitor global developments and follow the guidance of public health authorities, as well as officials in our ports of call. We will notify Guests of any necessary itinerary changes.

Guests currently booked on our European sailings through our July 25 departure can change their reservation up until the day before embarkation and receive a 100% cruise credit to be used for a future sailing within 15 months of their original sail date. The credit is non-refundable and standard prevailing rates will apply. Alternatively, Guests currently booked on our July 13, July 18 and July 25, 2020 European sailings may delay their final payment to 30 days prior to their sailing. Guests who booked their reservation through a travel agent should contact them directly. Those who booked with Disney Cruise Line may call us at (866) 325-2112 or (407) 566-3510.
 
This! I think this is a reasonable and likely scenario. At the end of the day, they’re a business. I have an Aug 2020 Alaska cruise booked. DCL is already generous in adding 30 days to the PIF date. If I gamble and wait it out and they cancel on me, I don’t expect any more than 100% back.

My question is the limit of the 15 months. Will that change as time goes on? We've rebooked for next year, but what about people who rebooked for the summer? Will they get their credits moved again and will they lose the ones they had in favor of any new offers?

Also, there's no guarantee that DCL will give more than 100% to anyone on a future sailing, given that they've already allowed PIF to move and you knew that this might be an issue. They might just say that since your PIF was after it was clear ships weren't sailing that you shouldn't have paid and will only give you 100% credit or full refund.... or no refund, just credit. Just because earlier sailings were given 'bonuses' for the short notice, does not mean that will continue. As one CM said to me, DCL isn't a casino.
 


My cruise on paper leaves April 25th...

If you want to rebook with Disney rather than a refund are they offering any insensitive?
 


Did I miss something? I’m booked on the May EBTA but cannot cancel as far as I know? I’d love to though!
I've seen reports of people booked on the EBTA getting calls from DCL to ask them if they want to move their cruise? Have you had something like that? It doesn't make sense to me, because you already can? Is Disney feeling they're loosing the chicken game?
 
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I've seen reports of people booked on the EBTA getting calls from DCL to ask them if they want to move their cruise? Have you had something like that? It doesn't make sense to me, because you already can? I Disney feeling they're loosing the chicken game?
Nothing yet no - though as you say, we can already move the date!

DCL have had almost two weeks since the last announcement to catch up, and they surely can’t be taking many calls for new bookings right now.

They are allocating gty numbers and mailing tags for cruises that aren’t going to sail. (More chicken tactics?!)

Stop wasting resources DCL and do the right thing!
 
Nothing yet no - though as you say, we can already move the date!

DCL have had almost two weeks since the last announcement to catch up, and they surely can’t be taking many calls for new bookings right now.

They are allocating gty numbers and mailing tags for cruises that aren’t going to sail. (More chicken tactics?!)

Stop wasting resources DCL and do the right thing!
wow, that's crazy! (the GTY and tags), must be some automated thing, I don't think somebody is waisting their time on that right now? Or it are indeed chicken tactics.

I didn't realise it was already 2 weeks since they announced the last cancelations. Yes, it's time for the next wave...
 
Here is a misunderstanding, I believe. You say you have social security, but where does that come from? The government doesn't just make up money on its own (though it's been tried a few times...). They have to collect that in taxes that everyone pays. If the government isn't collecting taxes, then there will be no money to re-distribute. This is what Greece ran into with austerity a few years back...

Also, I can't see regardless of economies, how infrastructure could be set back up in time from an operational standpoint to be ready to go for when the Med cruises are scheduled.
Why would the government stop collecting taxes? A lot of people are still working from home (or working in essential professions). Will there be a regression? Yes, sure, but we'll get through it and it doesn't mean every company is going bust
 
Why would the government stop collecting taxes? A lot of people are still working from home (or working in essential professions). Will there be a regression? Yes, sure, but we'll get through it and it doesn't mean every company is going bust

In Florida, we don't have state income taxes. Most of the state's budget comes from sales taxes. No tourists, no sales taxes. No residents shopping, no sales taxes. (Yes, the grocery stores are doing well, but we don't have sales tax on food!)

It's not that the gov't isn't collecting taxes--there just is no money to collect.
 
Royal Caribbean cancel their cruises until May 12 yesterday. Alaskan cruises are on hold until July 1. I think we should see something similar from DCL soon
DCL will likely end up extending another month pushing things to 5/12 which affects my cruise. I'll have to weigh my options at that time. I would prefer a full refund but I want to cruise again. We all want to cruise again. My cruise was a 4-night on the Magic. I was really looking forward to it as it was a new port & ship for me (first time on a Classic ship) but if I get 125% credit...maybe I can find a 7-night cruise that fits into my schedule.
 
My cruise on paper leaves April 25th...

If you want to rebook with Disney rather than a refund are they offering any insensitive?
On the Magic? Same here.
With Royal Caribbean canceling through May, I am thinking Disney will do the same. And we just got our luggage tags...
We do have another cruise picked out. If the next rounds of cancellations were anything like the first, we will have money left over on the one we have picked out.
 
Why would the government stop collecting taxes? A lot of people are still working from home (or working in essential professions). Will there be a regression? Yes, sure, but we'll get through it and it doesn't mean every company is going bust

The government can't collect taxes on money that isn't being made. A significant contraction is coming, and that is regardless of where you live or what social programs are in place. Some people are working from home and getting a steady paycheck, many others are not. This entire situation sucks, and the one single bright spot (from a societal point-of-view) is that a lot of people won't be so myopic when this is done; everyone is not living comfortably in jobs that can be done from home.

In regards to the thread at hand, the entire situation is incredibly frustrating and nerve-wracking. I understand frustration, but I don't think DCL is playing chicken as some have suggested. This virus and the coming economic contraction are industry killers. I don't blame any cruise line for trying to wait and see instead of hitting more and more nails in their own coffin. If you want to cancel, cancel; however, you need to do so without the expectation that this is going to be a payday for you in terms of 25-50% in credit over what you've already paid. If you're on a cruise that is supposed to depart Vancouver before the current moratorium ends, cancel it or wait for DCL to do so, but do it knowing that all they owe you is what you've paid, and not another dime beyond.
 
Feeling cynical today and it just occurred to me--do you think maybe DCL is holding out for the end of the fiscal quarter so they can "spread out" their losses from refunds over two quarters? Wondering if we might see a new cancellation announcement on April 1...
 
Feeling cynical today and it just occurred to me--do you think maybe DCL is holding out for the end of the fiscal quarter so they can "spread out" their losses from refunds over two quarters? Wondering if we might see a new cancellation announcement on April 1...
A few more cancellation announcements have been made today.
 
I just wish they would do something. If I voluntarily move my cruise to the same one next year, I need to add $1500 cash for the same cabins. I need the extra credit to be able to move my sailing. The longer dcl delays cancelling cruises, the less cabins are available on the cruise I can book next year. The less cabins available, the larger the chance I just take a refund when the sailing is cancelled.

In my situation, dcl gets to keep my money if they cancel into May soon. If not, I will take the refund when the sailing is cancelled.
 

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