Alice Royal
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Well they invested in DCA along with the newest cruise ships so I don't think that's a big issue. They also have billions invested in Shanghai right now.Does anyone else think building these ships is taking away from investment in the parks? I'm not sure of the accounting and what division each is in, but building these two ships at, I would assume about 1.5 billion each, has to come from the budget somewhere. If you have 3 billion in investment in new ships over the next 6 years, it might make it hard to approve the 1 billion investment in Star Wars I want to see at Hollywood Studios.
According to @rteetz , rumors are circulating around 2 new ships to be built for 2021 and 2023.
What are your feelings about this? I feel as if the potential demand could be there, but I can't get terribly excited about this if the prices keep going up and up. Also, any guesses on names?
Does anyone else think building these ships is taking away from investment in the parks? I'm not sure of the accounting and what division each is in, but building these two ships at, I would assume about 1.5 billion each, has to come from the budget somewhere. If you have 3 billion in investment in new ships over the next 6 years, it might make it hard to approve the 1 billion investment in Star Wars I want to see at Hollywood Studios.
Does anyone else think building these ships is taking away from investment in the parks? I'm not sure of the accounting and what division each is in, but building these two ships at, I would assume about 1.5 billion each, has to come from the budget somewhere. If you have 3 billion in investment in new ships over the next 6 years, it might make it hard to approve the 1 billion investment in Star Wars I want to see at Hollywood Studios.
The replacement idea has been floated around. By the two new ships would come on board the magic and wonder would be at or close to retirement age.Maybe the addition of new ships to the fleet will lower their prices (I know I'm probably dreaming on this one). It would be interesting to know what itinerary's they're looking at and also ports. Both the Magic and Wonder are getting older - wonder if the new ships will be their replacements?
Don't know about names but I think "Disney Imagination" would be a good one.
Maybe the addition of new ships to the fleet will lower their prices (I know I'm probably dreaming on this one). It would be interesting to know what itinerary's they're looking at and also ports. Both the Magic and Wonder are getting older - wonder if the new ships will be their replacements?
Don't know about names but I think "Disney Imagination" would be a good one.
Probably not replacement since they just did a upgrade on the magic and one coming for the wonder tooMaybe the addition of new ships to the fleet will lower their prices (I know I'm probably dreaming on this one). It would be interesting to know what itinerary's they're looking at and also ports. Both the Magic and Wonder are getting older - wonder if the new ships will be their replacements?
Don't know about names but I think "Disney Imagination" would be a good one.
The wonder does not have any refurb plans at the momentProbably not replacement since they just did a upgrade on the magic and one coming for the wonder too
The wonder does not have any refurb plans at the moment
I have not seen that the wonder has a dry dock planned. Do you have a place where you can find this?She does. She has one coming up and the timing is supposed to coincide with the opening of the new locks. Supposedly she is going Cadiz where the Magic went for her extended overhaul. If not it will be either Vancouver again or Freeport.
What is being completely missed in this discussion is that the capital markets are increasingly getting bearish on the cruise industry, due to emerging overcapacity. Demand for cruises (yes, including those on Disney) is not unlimited and the huge amount of additional tonnage and berths that have been launched in the last three years has been driving down margins (more cabins chasing a comparatively flat number of passengers). So the financial types in Anaheim may well decide that adding yet more cruise capacity is not the best way to maximize returns.
I have not seen that the wonder has a dry dock planned. Do you have a place where you can find this?
This also claims that the Magic has a second phase for this September and I haven't heard that either.Technically this is still speculatory, but if it's on the schedule at the yard...http://disneycruiselineblog.com/201...aded-to-dry-dock-in-cadiz-spain-in-2015-2016/
This also claims that the Magic has a second phase for this September and I haven't heard that either.
The International Maritime Organization (IMO) regulations require an out of water hull inspection two times in a five year period not to exceed 3 years. With the Wonder going offline for an extended period in 2016, the Magic is going in 2015 to avoid 2 ships offline in the Fall 2016. There is also a matter of scheduling at dry dock facilities.
I guess we'll have to wait and see. All i know is a Wonder dry dock refurb hasn't been confirmed yet. Its definitely expected after the Magic had theirs.From the author of the post on the blog: