Male Birth Control Pill - Could be coming soon

[Hikergirl]

We all know that women have had a choice. The point is that men did not have a pharmaceutical choice until now (maybe). Now that they do (might) some ppl are acting like it’s a big b/c men might have to deal with side effects. Some of us are saying, we have had that for years. I don’t understand why it’s so hard to understand that it’s a little obnoxious for some of us to hear that. Like a pp said, men weren't worried about that when it was just us assuming the risks.

I understand you think it is obnoxious. I guess my issue is that you (and other women) have issues at all with men being concerned about possible side effects. It really sounds like you think they have no right to be since women have made their own choices to deal with them for all these years.
Personally I think that comes across as pretty obnoxious

 

[Pacolovestacos]

I understand you think it is obnoxious. I guess my issue is that you (and other women) have issues at all with men being concerned about possible side effects. It really sounds like you think they have no right to be since women have made their own choices to deal with them for all these years.
Personally I think that comes across as pretty obnoxious

I understand what LSUmiss is saying. But I've also known many, many women who decided not to take the pill specifically because of the side effects. Some women are affected much more than others.

 

[Christine]

I understand what LSUmiss is saying. But I've also known many, many women who decided not to take the pill specifically because of the side effects. Some women are affected much more than others.

I would be one of those (hence, I have two children now!).

 

[Hikergirl]

I understand what LSUmiss is saying. But I've also known many, many women who decided not to take the pill specifically because of the side effects. Some women are affected much more than others.

The "but" has nothing to do with it, nobody here has claimed women haven't experienced side effects. You say you know many many women who have decided not to take the pill, and that is the point it is a decision women make. Nobody says they have too, not men, not society, nobody. If they choose hormonal BC then they choose to risk side effects. Why all of sudden now that men can make that choice does it it turn into- suck it up we've had to deal with side effects all along. No, we haven't we have chosen too, just like men can choose too or not. Thinking it is obnoxious that men are concerned with those side effects boggles my mind. They aren't allowed because they are men? That is sure how it comes across. If it isn't obnoxious for women to be concerned (which many are and decide not to take it) then it shouldn't be for men. Unless you believe in double standards.

 

[Pacolovestacos]

The "but" has nothing to do with it, nobody here has claimed women haven't experienced side effects. You say you know many many women who have decided not to take the pill, and that is the point it is a decision women make. Nobody says they have too, not men, not society, nobody. If they choose hormonal BC then they choose to risk side effects. Why all of sudden now that men can make that choice does it it turn into- suck it up we've had to deal with side effects all along. No, we haven't we have chosen too, just like men can choose too or not. Thinking it is obnoxious that men are concerned with those side effects boggles my mind. They aren't allowed because they are men? That is sure how it comes across.

Why are you so angry?

 

[Hikergirl]

Why are you so angry?

I don't see an angry emoji in my post, I'm just discussing the topic.

 

[Pacolovestacos]

I don't see an angry emoji in my post, I'm just discussing the topic.

I don't need an angry emoji to know tone. And your tone is that of someone who is upset.

 

[Hikergirl]

I don't need an angry emoji to know tone. And your tone is that of someone who is upset.

LOL, you might need those emojis more than you think. There really isn't anything or anyone here worth getting upset over. I may shake my head over some things, but that is about it.

 

[Pacolovestacos]

LOL, you might need those emojis more than you think. There really isn't anything or anyone here worth getting upset over. I may shake my head over some things, but that is about it.

Lol ok

 

[Hikergirl]

Lol ok

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I understand what LSUmiss is saying. But I've also known many, many women who decided not to take the pill specifically because of the side effects. Some women are affected much more than others.

Truthfully no one was denying that. The poster, at least to me so it could just be me, came off like women were just being brainwashed into accepting our lot in life rather than active participants in our own well-beings which included risk analysis of birth control. Once you start talking about society as a whole you are not talking about some women. I would gather that the majority of women,and I would assume also the ones on this thread, talk over their options, the risks, the side effects and go with what works best for them and sometimes that means no chemical birth control be utilized.

Maybe it's the messages being crossed but the PP said "society has convinced other women that they shouldn’t care either b/c it’s just the way it is" to which implies, to me that is, women as a whole don't have the mental capabilities to decipher what's best for them because they are just doing what society tells them to do.

 

[Colleen27]

Oh come on you know us poor women have had to endure all these side effects so that men dont have to worry about being fathers. Its not like we enjoy the freedom to have sex and not worry about getting pregnant, we do it for the men. Its their turn to suffer all the hormonal effects for us, its only fair.

Oh, come on. Are we really going to pretend that a lot of the pressure on women, especially women in a committed relationship, to use hormonal birth control isn't because men 1) don't like how condoms feel and/or 2) are too skittish to have a vasectomy? The vast majority of my female friends have vented about one or the other over the years, myself included. Many men - I'd even go so far as to say most, though certainly not all - want birth control that comes with 100% NO effect on them other than carefree sex, and it is disheartening to read things like this about a study into a male birth control pill that was shut down over side effects:

A lot of guys were dropping out because they were experiencing side effects. The most common side effect was acne, and sometimes that acne was pretty severe. Some men also developed mood swings and in some cases those mood swings got pretty bad.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health...-killed-after-men-complain-about-side-effects

Acne and mood swings are side effects of virtually every hormonal birth control given to women, but in men, they're too much to bear? I don't think it is anyone's "turn" to suffer, but it would be nice if there was at least some level of equal footing and willingness to work out a solution other than the woman being on contraception for decades despite the health risks. Because it is very likely that a woman being on the pill for 10 years and a man being on the pill for 10 years would pose less long-term risks than the woman being on the pill for 20.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

Oh, come on. Are we really going to pretend that a lot of the pressure on women, especially women in a committed relationship, to use hormonal birth control isn't because men 1) don't like how condoms feel and/or 2) are too skittish to have a vasectomy? The vast majority of my female friends have vented about one or the other over the years, myself included. Many men - I'd even go so far as to say most, though certainly not all - want birth control that comes with 100% NO effect on them other than carefree sex, and it is disheartening to read things like this about a study into a male birth control pill that was shut down over side effects:



Acne and mood swings are side effects of virtually every hormonal birth control given to women, but in men, they're too much to bear? I don't think it is anyone's "turn" to suffer, but it would be nice if there was at least some level of equal footing and willingness to work out a solution other than the woman being on contraception for decades despite the health risks. Because it is very likely that a woman being on the pill for 10 years and a man being on the pill for 10 years would pose less long-term risks than the woman being on the pill for 20.

I don't think you can compare the pill to a vasectomy. That's really apples & oranges. Nor is it exclusively men who dislike condoms (for numerous reasons).

And while you might not buy into the notion that it's men's "turn" to suffer too, there have been numerous comments that clearly came off that way.

 

[Pacolovestacos]

Oh, come on. Are we really going to pretend that a lot of the pressure on women, especially women in a committed relationship, to use hormonal birth control isn't because men 1) don't like how condoms feel and/or 2) are too skittish to have a vasectomy? The vast majority of my female friends have vented about one or the other over the years, myself included. Many men - I'd even go so far as to say most, though certainly not all - want birth control that comes with 100% NO effect on them other than carefree sex, and it is disheartening to read things like this about a study into a male birth control pill that was shut down over side effects:

Reason #1 I agree with. But not the vasectomy. I'm only in my 30s and haven't decided 100% yet if I want a kid or not in the future. So a vasectomy isn't even on the table.

 

[Hikergirl]

Oh, come on. Are we really going to pretend that a lot of the pressure on women, especially women in a committed relationship, to use hormonal birth control isn't because men 1) don't like how condoms feel and/or 2) are too skittish to have a vasectomy? The vast majority of my female friends have vented about one or the other over the years, myself included. Many men - I'd even go so far as to say most, though certainly not all - want birth control that comes with 100% NO effect on them other than carefree sex, and it is disheartening to read things like this about a study into a male birth control pill that was shut down over side effects:

You and I don't know the same people at all then.

Acne and mood swings are side effects of virtually every hormonal birth control given to women, but in men, they're too much to bear? I don't think it is anyone's "turn" to suffer, but it would be nice if there was at least some level of equal footing and willingness to work out a solution other than the woman being on contraception for decades despite the health risks. Because it is very likely that a woman being on the pill for 10 years and a man being on the pill for 10 years would pose less long-term risks than the woman being on the pill for 20.

Women don't have to stay on hormonal BC, there are other options. If they are on it for 10 years maybe they should be discussing other options with their doctor.

 

[PaulaSB12]

However, it’s arguable that the woman has much higher stakes!

When you look at th3 way fathers are treated the man has higher stakes. Someone at work I knew his wife left him for an affair taking their son but if he ever dated she stopped him seeing his son, another father sent presents for his kids recorded delivery so she signed for them only for her to t3xt saying she threw them away and told the kids he didn’t send anything.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

When you look at th3 way fathers are treated the man has higher stakes. Someone at work I knew his wife left him for an affair taking their son but if he ever dated she stopped him seeing his son, another father sent presents for his kids recorded delivery so she signed for them only for her to t3xt saying she threw them away and told the kids he didn’t send anything.

I have a coworker who hasn't been permitted to see his kid in over 5 years. But, his child support comes right out of every check. Sad.

 

[Pacolovestacos]

I have a coworker who hasn't been permitted to see his kid in over 5 years. But, his child support comes right out of every check. Sad.

All he has to do is change jobs. It takes the court a while to catch up.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

All he has to do is change jobs. It takes the court a while to catch up.

They will catch up though.

 

[Pacolovestacos]

They will catch up though.

New bank account and new job. Will take the court a long while to get it.