If the flattening isn't working is it time to face reality?

[Farro]

This makes sense. I wonder how many people currently hospitalized here could be moved home if this was in use everywhere:

Seattle hospital monitoring nearly 300 potential coronavirus patients remotely
From CNN's Sonia Moghe

Providence St. Joseph’s Health in Seattle, Washington, is currently monitoring 279 Covid-19 positive and presumptive positive patients remotely from their homes.
It’s helping free up hundreds of beds, and reducing exposure for health care workers to possible cases, and patients who may not end up having Covid-19 to the virus, the hospital said.
Patients, who test positive, or are currently awaiting their test results, are sent home with a thermometer and a pulse oximeter, which helps check oxygen levels and heart rate, said Hargobind Khurana, medical director of the hospital's telehealth services. They input their temperature, oxygen level and heart rate into the app. Their vitals are monitored and an automated system checks in every few hours to make sure their symptoms are not worsening.

“The majority of the patients do not require hospital admissions. There’s a percentage of people who require high level care, supplemental oxygen. There’s a small percentage who’d require ICU care. About three-fourths of patients who have the disease can be monitored at home,” Khurana said.

 

[Farro]

Maybe Italy is finally on downtrend? Hopefully.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/coronavirus/2020/3/23/21191249/italy-coronavirus-covid-19

 

[JimMIA]

Maybe Italy is finally on downtrend? Hopefully.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/coronavirus/2020/3/23/21191249/italy-coronavirus-covid-19

Yep. Good sign...and they really need a good sign!

 

[Farro]

I'm just so impressed with Mayor Lightfoot during all of this! So glad she's our Mayor.

5 Chicago hotels will house coronavirus patients
From CNN's Artemis Moshtaghian

The city of Chicago has partnered with five hotels to house some quarantined people and isolated coronavirus patients, as well as others who need assistance.
This establishes a capacity of more than 1,000 patients by Tuesday and likely 2,000 by the end of the week, thereby relieving the burden on Chicago hospitals and allowing them to focus their critical beds on those patients that need acute care.
Hotel operations staff will be properly trained for this situation and will not directly interact with quarantined guests — that will be the responsibility of public health employees, Mayor Lori Lightfoot said at a news conference on Monday.
Lightfoot said she plans on working up an agreement with Metro South Medical Center in Blue Island, Illinois, to utilize its currently vacant hospital facility, which will open up an additional 200 rooms that will become available starting this Thursday.
The mayor said Chicago created its plan based on what worked in other countries to respond to immediate medical needs where it is necessary to isolate and quarantine individuals who are at risk to slow the spread of coronavirus.
Three Chicago YMCA locations and other city-wide organizations are "stepping up to support individuals experiencing homelessness" by opening up their doors to the at risk homeless community in Chicago, Mayor Lightfoot said. The mayor pointed out that the homeless population are particularly at risk due to the social distancing required to best combat the spread of coronavirus and as a result Chicago shelters are facing new challenges related to space and capacity.

 

[HeatherC]

I was just given the paper that I'm suppose to keep in my car to go back and forth to work. The list of Essential Critical Infrastructure Workforce that was provided to us by the government is very long, but I think everything on there makes sense. When looking at it you think that's a lot of people, but judging from the absence of traffic, it is a huge difference.

I agree actually. It just seems like when you read the list it includes “almost” everyone.. It also can’t be helped I think. Need to keep things running.

 

[mummabear]

Hah. Really at this point I want to kiss a coronavirus patient and get my free natural vaccine.

Except that they dont know if you will become immune yet....

 

[Mom2Stitch]

This makes sense. I wonder how many people currently hospitalized here could be moved home if this was in use everywhere:

Seattle hospital monitoring nearly 300 potential coronavirus patients remotely
From CNN's Sonia Moghe

Providence St. Joseph’s Health in Seattle, Washington, is currently monitoring 279 Covid-19 positive and presumptive positive patients remotely from their homes.
It’s helping free up hundreds of beds, and reducing exposure for health care workers to possible cases, and patients who may not end up having Covid-19 to the virus, the hospital said.
Patients, who test positive, or are currently awaiting their test results, are sent home with a thermometer and a pulse oximeter, which helps check oxygen levels and heart rate, said Hargobind Khurana, medical director of the hospital's telehealth services. They input their temperature, oxygen level and heart rate into the app. Their vitals are monitored and an automated system checks in every few hours to make sure their symptoms are not worsening.

Maybe Italy is finally on downtrend? Hopefully.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/coronavirus/2020/3/23/21191249/italy-coronavirus-covid-19

I'm just so impressed with Mayor Lightfoot during all of this! So glad she's our Mayor.

5 Chicago hotels will house coronavirus patients
From CNN's Artemis Moshtaghian

The city of Chicago has partnered with five hotels to house some quarantined people and isolated coronavirus patients, as well as others who need assistance.
This establishes a capacity of more than 1,000 patients by Tuesday and likely 2,000 by the end of the week, thereby relieving the burden on Chicago hospitals and allowing them to focus their critical beds on those patients that need acute care.
Hotel operations staff will be properly trained for this situation and will not directly interact with quarantined guests — that will be the responsibility of public health employees, Mayor Lori Lightfoot said at a news conference on Monday.
Lightfoot said she plans on working up an agreement with Metro South Medical Center in Blue Island, Illinois, to utilize its currently vacant hospital facility, which will open up an additional 200 rooms that will become available starting this Thursday.
The mayor said Chicago created its plan based on what worked in other countries to respond to immediate medical needs where it is necessary to isolate and quarantine individuals who are at risk to slow the spread of coronavirus.
Three Chicago YMCA locations and other city-wide organizations are "stepping up to support individuals experiencing homelessness" by opening up their doors to the at risk homeless community in Chicago, Mayor Lightfoot said. The mayor pointed out that the homeless population are particularly at risk due to the social distancing required to best combat the spread of coronavirus and as a result Chicago shelters are facing new challenges related to space and capacity.

This is the kind of good news I hope we can keep seeing!

 

[sam_gordon]

I'm just so impressed with Mayor Lightfoot during all of this! So glad she's our Mayor.

5 Chicago hotels will house coronavirus patients
From CNN's Artemis Moshtaghian

The city of Chicago has partnered with five hotels to house some quarantined people and isolated coronavirus patients, as well as others who need assistance.
This establishes a capacity of more than 1,000 patients by Tuesday and likely 2,000 by the end of the week, thereby relieving the burden on Chicago hospitals and allowing them to focus their critical beds on those patients that need acute care.
Hotel operations staff will be properly trained for this situation and will not directly interact with quarantined guests — that will be the responsibility of public health employees, Mayor Lori Lightfoot said at a news conference on Monday.
Lightfoot said she plans on working up an agreement with Metro South Medical Center in Blue Island, Illinois, to utilize its currently vacant hospital facility, which will open up an additional 200 rooms that will become available starting this Thursday.
The mayor said Chicago created its plan based on what worked in other countries to respond to immediate medical needs where it is necessary to isolate and quarantine individuals who are at risk to slow the spread of coronavirus.
Three Chicago YMCA locations and other city-wide organizations are "stepping up to support individuals experiencing homelessness" by opening up their doors to the at risk homeless community in Chicago, Mayor Lightfoot said. The mayor pointed out that the homeless population are particularly at risk due to the social distancing required to best combat the spread of coronavirus and as a result Chicago shelters are facing new challenges related to space and capacity.

That is a great idea! Kudos to whoever in Chicago came up with it. Hopefully they're paying the hotel for that and that allows the hotel to pay their employees. That would be a huge bonus.

 

[disneychrista]

Massachusetts Governor just gave a stay at home advisory today and put out a list of essential businesses. I was very surprised how long it was. It seems like the only ones that are being suggested to stay home are small business owners. Seems like every other industry under the sun was considered essential. So I’m not sure how many will actually be staying home after all.

That is my thought too. There are some that makes sense from an EMERGENCY standpoint (Vets, Plumbers, Electricians, Hardware/Home Improvement, Auto Parts) but you KNOW that people are taking advantage of it and using these things for non emergencies.

Still seems like a lot of people are still out and about for non-essential reasons.

 

[Hikergirl]

Dh's company has been deemed essential but they are only allowing the "most essential" people to come in and work. Badge access for all employees has been suspended, and the only way to have your's active is to be approved by your boss and then their boss.
Everyone else works from home.

 

[kaytieeldr]

We'd move down and so would he as he was putting back certain items

This sounds like an isdue where you should have complained to management about a worker working.

 

[kaytieeldr]

You must not be practicing social distancing. The point is to stay away from people. He was well aware we were there and he was putting stuff away in the aisle not things right where we were standing.

People staying away from people. Dissatisfied with how close somebody gets to you? Move.

 

[Mom2Stitch]

Our company is considered essential. Some of the work I can see needing to be in the office for. Some of it could be done from home.

For the same company I work out of 1 office 3 days a week and a different office the other 2 days. I feel like I should go to 1 or the other, not both as there are different people in each office.

I'm so glad that I have my job and my paycheck, but I'm scared of this virus, I'm in my 50's, DH in his 60's. There is nothing that I do in my job that I couldn't do from my home if my company were to allow that. At this time they aren't even offering that as an option-at least not to the field offices. The folks at headquarters are all working remotely. I'm afraid to even ask because I sure don't want my walking papers .

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

This sounds like an isdue where you should have complained to management about a worker working.

You're being snarky and it doesn't warrant an actual reply to this.

People staying away from people. Dissatisfied with how close somebody gets to you? Move.

I'm wondering if you didn't read my original comment because guess what that's exactly what we were doing..moving away from the person

We went to Home Depot the other day and the darn employee (who appeared to be at least in his mid-60s) kept getting closer to us in the aisle. We'd move down and so would he as he was putting back certain items. Get away from me. I'm trying to stay 6 ft from you but you keep getting closer to me. It was weird.

I guess another way to describe it is

• we were in a spot in the aisle and he would get close to us
• we'd move away from him, he'd then move closer to us again
• we again would move away from him, he'd then move closer to us again
• we again would move away from him

And maybe for clairification I need to say he was basically right next to us each time. We left that aisle quick as can be when it became appearant he wasn't keeping his distance. So we were dissatisfied with how close somebody was getting to us and we moved away..several times. As another poster mentioned as employees they kept finding customers who inched closer and closer to them. Some people aren't consciously aware enough of the distance they are maintaining with other people.

Employees, when they can, need to maintain the distance as they are the ones coming in repeated contact so letting someone know you need in their area is easy enough so the customer can then move off to a safe distance til the employee is done. Shifting how one does their work is a vital part of this all something many of us are doing because we have to.

No need for a further reply though my experience doesn't need to be a back and forth thing

 

[Notrealname]

People staying away from people. Dissatisfied with how close somebody gets to you? Move.

And then the covidiot in line behind me moves up . . .
To quote Murray Goldberg, “moron!”

 

[Diznygrl]

That is a great idea! Kudos to whoever in Chicago came up with it. Hopefully they're paying the hotel for that and that allows the hotel to pay their employees. That would be a huge bonus.

Probably got the idea from Governor Newsom (CA) who started this a week ago.

 

[Feralpeg]

If all non-essential businesses are closed, where are people going if not sheltering in place?

I'm a little confused why people need to basically be literally led by the hand to figure out what they should be doing right now. If everywhere people go is now closed except for the things people need to survive, it means they don't want people going anywhere!

One of my neighbors has put a bounce house in their yard. They are having a party. What do you do about stupid?

 

[Farro]

That is a great idea! Kudos to whoever in Chicago came up with it. Hopefully they're paying the hotel for that and that allows the hotel to pay their employees. That would be a huge bonus.

The city is paying the hotels at a higher rate than the current hotel room rate! Some hotel employees will receive training and work during this, but won't have direct patient contact.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Kudos to this innovator!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...one-ventilator-nine-genius-DIY-mechanics.html

 

[HeatherC]

Kudos to this innovator!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...one-ventilator-nine-genius-DIY-mechanics.html

That’s incredible. I just shared it on Facebook and asked people to share it. maybe it can help some hospitals who don’t know about this.