Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Krandor]

That would be so difficult on so many levels UCT and all those types of companies would be affected, also it makes way more sense to me to spread people out among the parks. If they were going that route surely they would have to announced it by now.

Not allowing hopping makes it easier to spread people around because you know what park they will be at. Cap reservations per park and not allowing hopping lets them know exactly how many people could be in a given park on a given day.

Will they do it? we'll see but I think it's likely.

 

[Krandor]

I don’t believe any brick and mortar theaters have opened yet. They’re allowed to, but I haven’t heard any of them physically opening. If they have, that’s great. I think movie theaters will be a domino affect where once a few open, if procedures are done well, more will follow as their state allows. I think most will be open and ready in time for July 17th.

None of the big chains have opened but it appears there are some independent theaters that have. Variety is a pretty reputable source for things like this.

 

[Mit88]

None of the big chains have opened but it appears there are some independent theaters that have. Variety is a pretty reputable source for things like this.

AMC and Regal are probably looking for ways to exploit the customer for more money in order to make up for the money they’ve lost, and will continue to lose without having a summer full of movies for people to go to.

But in all seriousness, they probably don’t want to pay movie studios to use their films for 2 months. Especially older films that wouldn’t get the amount of crowds drawn in, to go along with reduced capacity in itself. The idea of seeing the first Avengers in theaters is cool, but am I going to pay 10-15+ dollars to go see it? Probably not. The whole reason they’d put older movies back in theaters is to get people used to seeing movies in the theater again, and to tweak any safety measures that they can before Tenant and Mulan come out.

Personally, I think if there’s new movies playing in the theater, there will be people that don’t feel 100% comfortable with going to a movie theater that will wind up going. There’s a lot of FOMO in the entertainment business. Shows and movies are all about word of mouth. That’s how a show like Tiger King blows up. People that see movies are very invested in not being spoiled. If Tenant, or WW84 come out, you don’t want to be spoiled of what happens. And in this day and age it’s very difficult to avoid spoilers.

 

[LSUmiss]

I've seen some bloggers saying they've been seeing a few people taking the mask off and a lot of people lowing it below their noses.

This is happening everywhere I go. I think ppl want to be pro-mask on message board etc & maybe really are well-intentioned, but IRL when it comes to actually putting that into practice, it’s harder than it seems.

 

[Krandor]

AMC and Regal are probably looking for ways to exploit the customer for more money in order to make up for the money they’ve lost, and will continue to lose without having a summer full of movies for people to go to.

But in all seriousness, they probably don’t want to pay movie studios to use their films for 2 months. Especially older films that wouldn’t get the amount of crowds drawn in, to go along with reduced capacity in itself. The idea of seeing the first Avengers in theaters is cool, but am I going to pay 10-15+ dollars to go see it? Probably not. The whole reason they’d put older movies back in theaters is to get people used to seeing movies in the theater again, and to tweak any safety measures that they can before Tenant and Mulan come out.

Personally, I think if there’s new movies playing in the theater, there will be people that don’t feel 100% comfortable with going to a movie theater that will wind up going. There’s a lot of FOMO in the entertainment business. Shows and movies are all about word of mouth. That’s how a show like Tiger King blows up. People that see movies are very invested in not being spoiled. If Tenant, or WW84 come out, you don’t want to be spoiled of what happens. And in this day and age it’s very difficult to avoid spoilers.

You are right on the major chains but there are a lot of theaters that focus only on indie movies or even 2nd and 3rd run movies. They don't get the huge crowds but enough to get by since they don't have huge fees to rent those movies. Those are likely the 50 brick and morter ones currently runnings - ones that just don't play the big blockbusters. In fact in the past few years any theaer that wanted to run new movies had to convert to digital from film projectors so I would also bet those 50 currently running are ones that didn't do that and are still running what movies that can off film.

 

[Krandor]

This is happening everywhere I go. I think ppl want to be pro-mask on message board etc & maybe really are well-intentioned, but IRL when it comes to actually putting that into practice, it’s harder than it seems.

It is hard. I went to the grocery store today and couldn't wait to get to the car and get the mask off. Of course I was also using the chinese version of the N-95 (KN-95) so it was a much heavier mask.

Though I did just order a new face covering perfect for disney if they are needed when I go in Sep (I would likely not be using the sunglasses)

 

[RamblingMad]

This is happening everywhere I go. I think ppl want to be pro-mask on message board etc & maybe really are well-intentioned, but IRL when it comes to actually putting that into practice, it’s harder than it seems.

It's really not. It feels weird until you get used to it.

I saw too many people today not wearing masks. We're pretty much open, and COVID-19 is going to spread again and shut us back down again. This puts us into a W shape recovery, which is really bad.

I want to return to Disney, but the people that refuse to wear masks make this less likely.

 

[DebbieB]

They won’t do this. They’ll simply do phased closures as they do when they reach capacity during busy days. As when you purchase the tickets they don’t guarantee access to the parks, this makes the most sense for Disney - financially.

This was discussed on the 5/5 earnings call, at least for Shanghai. They don’t want more people showing up than they have capacity for. What will they do if they are admitting 25,000 and 50,000 show up? They need to have social distance at the gate. I’m not saying forever, just when they are working low capacity.

 

[jerry557]

It's really not. It feels weird until you get used to it.

I saw too many people today not wearing masks. We're pretty much open, and COVID-19 is going to spread again and shut us back down again. This puts us into a W shape recovery, which is really bad.

I want to return to Disney, but the people that refuse to wear masks make this less likely.

Wearing it for 30 minutes while in a climate-controlled store or a bus ride is very different than wearing it for 6-10 hours straight outside in summer heat and humidity. I can tell you that right now, no one has done this. No one has gone through a theme park all day wearing a mask in July heat to tell us how tolerable it is. Right now in Florida it's about 85 degrees. And already people in City Walk say its nearly unbearable wearing it for more than a few hours. In two months, that temperature is going to rise at least 10 degrees and the humidity is going to amp up as well. Suffice to say....few people are going to tolerate 8 hours outside in a mask in those condition. Disney is going to try it. They are going to see if it works. I think most people will have good intentions and give it a shot. But ultimately, reality is going to set in. If someone is struggling with the heat, not getting enough oxygen, or their mask is full of sweat...it's coming off. What happens at that point....no one knows yet.

We'll see what happens.

 

[gottalovepluto]

Wearing it for 30 minutes while in a climate-controlled store or a bus ride is very different than wearing it for 6-10 hours straight outside in summer heat and humidity. I can tell you that right now, no one has done this. No one has gone through a theme park all day wearing a mask in July heat to tell us how tolerable it is. Right now in Florida it's about 85 degrees. And already people in City Walk say its nearly unbearable wearing it for more than a few hours. In two months, that temperature is going to rise at least 10 degrees and the humidity is going to amp up as well. Suffice to say....few people are going to tolerate 8 hours outside in a mask in those condition. Disney is going to try it. They are going to see if it works. I think most people will have good intentions and give it a shot. But ultimately, reality is going to set in. If someone is struggling with the heat, not getting enough oxygen, or their mask is full of sweat...it's coming off. What happens at that point....no one knows yet.

We'll see what happens.

Well I walked around the neighborhood with my kid in the sun for like 45 mins and we were fine! Also my 5 year old personally assured me they will be fine at WDW and will wear their mask!
-good intentioned folk


-realists

 

[mshanson3121]

Why would Disney be offering park hopper tickets for July 1st if they were going to have guests reserve one park per day?

Why would Disney have been offering full packages for June 1st if they weren't going to be open?

 

[WonderlandisReality]

Are we expecting the next round of CM schedules this morning? I know they were late last week

 

[cakebaker]

Are we expecting the next round of CM schedules this morning? I know they were late last week

Today is when they’d normally be out.

 

[mshanson3121]

Wearing it for 30 minutes while in a climate-controlled store or a bus ride is very different than wearing it for 6-10 hours straight outside in summer heat and humidity. I can tell you that right now, no one has done this. No one has gone through a theme park all day wearing a mask in July heat to tell us how tolerable it is. Right now in Florida it's about 85 degrees. And already people in City Walk say its nearly unbearable wearing it for more than a few hours. In two months, that temperature is going to rise at least 10 degrees and the humidity is going to amp up as well. Suffice to say....few people are going to tolerate 8 hours outside in a mask in those condition. Disney is going to try it. They are going to see if it works. I think most people will have good intentions and give it a shot. But ultimately, reality is going to set in. If someone is struggling with the heat, not getting enough oxygen, or their mask is full of sweat...it's coming off. What happens at that point....no one knows yet.

We'll see what happens.

The high today is supposed to be 95 before humidity. So that's pretty average for summer.

But I have to say I have NEVER been outside in the "Florida heat" for 10 hours straight while visiting Disney. What I have been is in the heat for a bit walking between attractions, standing in line or waiting for/watching the parade or fireworks (which likely won't be happening anymore). I've never spent longer than an hour ish outside all at once. The rest of the time I've been in air conditioned queues, on air conditioned rides, in air conditioned bathrooms, restaurants, stores etc... No one visiting Disney this year is going to be outside in the heat for even 2-3 hours on end, let alone 10.

 

[dismom58]

We kinda need to chill on Florida Union power. If they don’t work after getting called back to work, they don’t get paid. And many of the employees are desperate because FL unemployment is crap and they literally aren’t getting paid. Not to get political but their situation is well known so I don’t think I am. Disney knows their level of desperation for a paycheck darn well. And the union would like to still exist after this so telling everyone to walk off the job because everyone isn’t complying with mask wearing? Ehh. It’s not a strong argument because
1) It automatically assumes all union members want masks. Most likely not the case.
2) And that they are so dedicated to masks they are willing to forgo their paychecks. Definitely not the case.

I don’t see a Union Walk Out under any circumstances honestly. And the language Disney put out today tells everyone they will adjust guidelines based on public officials recommendations... I suspect the final union contract said the same thing...

Remember Florida is a right to work state unions don’t have the power they do up north

 

[yulilin3]

Good morning
No schedule has been released yet for the parks. Waiting on some friends from DS to answer messages back
On another note, there's a new page on the hub instructing cm on what to do before heading to work (can't share the actual page)
Check your temp
If you've been in constant with anyone with covid call your lead. stay home
If you have any symptoms stay home
Remember to bring your mask to work, keep social distancing when possible, wash your hands and don't touch your face

On a separate note I think @rteetz is doing an exceptional job with these threads, he is much more lenient than I am, the mask debate is absolutely going nowhere and yet around and around it goes.

 

[OnceUponATime15]

Why would Disney be offering park hopper tickets for July 1st if they were going to have guests reserve one park per day?

For the same reason they have been taking resort reservations and then cancelling them week by week... a situation that is still evolving with a whole lot of moving parts to be considered.

 

[koszmok]

The high today is supposed to be 95 before humidity. So that's pretty average for summer.

But I have to say I have NEVER been outside in the "Florida heat" for 10 hours straight while visiting Disney. What I have been is in the heat for a bit walking between attractions, standing in line or waiting for/watching the parade or fireworks (which likely won't be happening anymore). I've never spent longer than an hour ish outside all at once. The rest of the time I've been in air conditioned queues, on air conditioned rides, in air conditioned bathrooms, restaurants, stores etc... No one visiting Disney this year is going to be outside in the heat for even 2-3 hours on end, let alone 10.

I was plenty of times outside in AKL for 4-5 hours straight. But it`s true... it`s possible that I was the only one who did this. Oh wait ! My husband was with me so I think we were the only 2 people who did this....

Never
No one

 

[Jroceagles]

I was plenty of times outside in AKL for 4-5 hours straight. But it`s true... it`s possible that I was the only one who did this. Oh wait ! My husband was with me so I think we were the only 2 people who did this....

Never
No one

Ever been to Epcot during food and wine? Easy 8 hours or so outside! Easy.

 

[cakebaker]

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Ever been to Epcot during food and wine? Easy 8 hours or so outside! Easy.

Even during a F&W, we are not constantly outside. But, for those who do stay out in the heat all day, they may have to change how they tour the parks if the rules make it uncomfortable for them. Just the way it is.