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To lower incentives from what they had indicates to me that current sales are doing okay.
I'm not 100% sure about this, though. I think if I were to put on a sale, I'd tell people that the prices will be higher afterwards and stick to it. I'd probably use the next set of incentives as a guide... Current sales data may indicate that it's comparable to pre-COVID, but I think DVC would love to try to make up for the sales they lost during the shutdown. This is all speculation, of course.
To add to this, when we called in to our guide yesterday to finalize our purchase of 300 points CCV, he mentioned a few other changes that were communicated just that day:
I feel like I'm forgetting one, so if I remember later, I'll post again.
- They are no longer selling UY for OCT, or DEC, if someone asks then guides should suggest SEP
- They are no longer allowed to give out 2019 points (likely because 2020 is saturated with points due to COVID)
Regarding UY I can see CCV being more restrictive with few points remaining to sell.
But Aulani and Riviera? I'm doubtful they'd be heavy handed there where there is a ton of inventory available. Either way, I can definitely see guides pushing other UYs but DVD ultimately selling October or December if it meant not losing a sale.
As for not giving out 2019 points I'd question the legality. If one enters a contract for a UY that is still current then there's an obligation to make points available. This is also where people are sold on "free" or "gifted" points. DVD doesn't give current UY points as a gift, but they are given because that's legally what they must do. Of course, this is my limited understanding of the law and I could be incorrect.
super glad I got in and challenged for my 2019 points in July for an August use year.
We’re past a decade since active sales began, and close to ten full years if you leave out the 2 times they temporarily stopped selling it (2010/11 dues fiasco and COVID)At some point Aulani will have to fire sale just to close out marketing on that. I mean we're pushing a decade for that place (Grand Opening August 29th, 2011).
What percentage has been sold? Is guess Disney is okay with it taking a long time since they don't lower the prices?We’re past a decade since active sales began, and close to ten full years if you leave out the 2 times they temporarily stopped selling it (2010/11 dues fiasco and COVID)
If they are able to fill the unsold inventory with cash reservations, they may not be in such a hurry. It gets into cash now versus cash in the future and where they want their capital tied up. With covid closing down Hawaii tourism for months, I am sure they are wishing they were not sitting on empty cash (inventory), but going forward having more "hotel rooms" may still be a good spot for them.At some point Aulani will have to fire sale just to close out marketing on that. I mean we're pushing a decade for that place (Grand Opening August 29th, 2011).
About 60% of Aulani had been declared as of December.What percentage has been sold? Is guess Disney is okay with it taking a long time since they don't lower the prices?
Sad because I do often wish there were more DVC resorts outside of WDW. Hilton Head and Vero are both lovely. I wish there was something out west, maybe in the Rockies, we love hiking so that would be awesome. But I imagine what's happened with Aulani has turned them away from any new resort that isn't near a theme park.About 60% of Aulani had been declared as of December.
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The real problem is that sales of Aulani have slooooowed in recent years. I’m not sure why DVC has not offered stronger incentives on it, it may be the cash market is strong enough that they’re still making their money. But generally speaking you want to unload a timeshare in the first few years it exists. I’m confident they didn’t expect to be selling Aulani in 2020, or to be projecting to be still selling in in 2027, with only 35 years left on it.
I agree!We did the DVC pitch a few years ago with some friends and the guide explicitly stated she would not sell us Aulani points unless we lived on the West Coast (we do not) and/or we already traveled to Hawaii at least every other year (we do not). So when even the guides think it's a bad deal...
Sad because I do often wish there were more DVC resorts outside of WDW. Hilton Head and Vero are both lovely. I wish there was something out west, maybe in the Rockies, we love hiking so that would be awesome. But I imagine what's happened with Aulani has turned them away from any new resort that isn't near a theme park.
But maybe I can hope for Disneyland Paris? Tokyo Disney DVC would be so awesome but I imagine that's never going to happen since Disney doesn't actually own that
Not sure what you mean by DVC-owned resorts internationally with the 50/50 split, but if it gets us DVC in Tokyo I'm for it!So for Disneyland Paris supposedly they gave away land for Marriott. What I wish we would have at international parks were resorts owned by DVC, paid for by Membership, but bookable by all membership. Any breakage that occurred would be split 50/50 between Disney and Membership to pay for the resort itself and likely avoid much if any burden on MFs.
Now with places like the Rockies and other places while it might be nice to have something in DVC I personally don't think its great for the system to have more members who will try to trade in to WDW at 7 months. VGC is a little different and the other resorts are so small points wise.
I am pretty fine though if you think I am incorrect and that other resorts wouldn't cause an impact. I after all would love a Disney resort in northern Wisconsin on a private lake with a huge lodge. It would be a great location pulling both from Chicago and Minneapolis without a ton of competition except for smaller lodges.