Disneyland Reopening Speculation Superthread

[midnight star]

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/...3-new-cases-of-covid-19-are-reported/2438607/This article mentions the mid-October date.

 

[TikiTikiFan]

Isn't Dr. Gally giving an update today? Anyone know where to find that? This is our last shot before I book all my WDW things and trade in my DL tickets for WDW to Get Away Today... I can't wait any longer, we're going nuts lol!

 

[Askimos]

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/...3-new-cases-of-covid-19-are-reported/2438607/This article mentions the mid-October date.

We had a week where we met orange tier numbers, but it was followed by a small uptick which put us in red tier numbers for the following week, so we weren’t able to move to orange tier today as we had hoped. If we meet orange tier numbers this week and next week, we will be able to move—at the earliest— oct 20.


Edit: the one thing keeping us is our Covid case rate. As of today, it is 4.4, and it needs to be below 4 to meet orange, which may be possible given we met that already 2 weeks ago.

 

[TikiTikiFan]

We had a week where we met orange tier numbers, but it was followed by a small uptick which put us in red tier numbers for the following week, so we weren’t able to move to orange tier today as we had hoped. If we meet orange tier numbers this week and next week, we will be able to move—at the earliest— oct 20.

What I wonder is if Disneyland can't open until orange, they can't really pick an opening date until that is confirmed- right? So say it's Oct. 20th and the general rumormill convo here is that they need about six weeks to get things rolling? That puts an opening date on December. Because I would imagine they can't just announce an opening date, in case the county doesn't meet the tier, until then right? Or are they able to get into the parks to get things ready before the tier shifts?

If that makes sense. Either way, I don't see them opening in November...

 

[midnight star]

We had a week where we met orange tier numbers, but it was followed by a small uptick which put us in red tier numbers for the following week, so we weren’t able to move to orange tier today as we had hoped. If we meet orange tier numbers this week and next week, we will be able to move—at the earliest— oct 20.


Edit: the one thing keeping us is our Covid case rate. As of today, it is 4.4, and it needs to be below 4 to meet orange, which may be possible given we met that already 2 weeks ago.

That’s basically LA’s problem. Our percentage is actually in Orange but case in Purple. Idk if the state will try and use that to hinder theme parks opening considering there is so much movement between orange and LA county.

 

[bassgirl]

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/...3-new-cases-of-covid-19-are-reported/2438607/This article mentions the mid-October date.

Thank you very much!

 

[mlggator22]

So if Disney is allowed to open in Orange, what happens if after a month of being in orange OC moves back to red. Does Disney need to close? I remember when WDW was opening they got assurance from DeSantis that the state would not shut them down if there was an uptick not related to Disney. I would expect without some assurance like this, it would be difficult for Disneyland to reopen. And I'm pretty sure that is not an assurance Newsom will want to make.

 

[Rich M]

It's sad all the way around isn't it? It's like the "powers that be" aren't AT ALL looking at the whole picture. Like they don't even get it.

I find that most people don't care about a subject unless it effects them directly.

 

[StormyCA]

There are just so many ifs, ands, and buts aren't there?

Mid-October? How can any reopening date be predicted when it all depends on a random and unpredictable thing? In this case, the infection & positivity rates. No one really knows from one day to the next how many will be infected. Will OC suddenly get an uptick in cases, will they stay steady, or will they decline? I doubt even Madame Leota's crystal ball knows.

And suggesting a date without knowing the parameters is a bit like 'verdict first, trial afterwards'.

IMHO

 

[Brittney Cornwell]

Theme park question asked again..... guidelines "coming soon as possible". Its "dynamic". Same old same old no answer.

 

[TikiTikiFan]

Question about theme park guidelines got this answer from Dr. Gally:

Here's a (very rough) summary of what he said: "Theme parks continues to be a high priority for the administration and recognizing their role in California life and employment opportunities for thousands of Californians, we don't take that lightly, we're working closely with the direct operators of theme parks and the overall agency representing theme parks and the labor partners representing the workers. We need to move forward together in a low risk and the safest way possible. I'm not sure when these conversations will wrap up, they will wrap up when we hear the industry concerns and continue to look at the data and information. No promise of a specific date (for guidelines), as soon as possible."

Issues they're concerned with according to Dr. Gally: impact of sector of theme parks on broader communities, surrounding neighborhoods, workplaces and industry. And his quote, "This just isn't about one piece, it's about the entire community. And the responsibility to reduce the risk for those in California that might visit the theme parks."

 

[midnight star]

Question about theme park guidelines got this answer from Dr. Gally:

Here's a (very rough) summary of what he said: "Theme parks continues to be a high priority for the administration and recognizing their role in California life and employment opportunities for thousands of Californians, we don't take that lightly, we're working closely with the direct operators of theme parks and the overall agency representing theme parks and the labor partners representing the workers. We need to move forward together in a low risk and the safest way possible. I'm not sure when these conversations will wrap up, they will wrap up when we hear the industry concerns and continue to look at the data and information. No promise of a specific date (for guidelines), as soon as possible."

Issues they're concerned with according to Dr. Gally: impact of sector of theme parks on broader communities, surrounding neighborhoods, workplaces and industry. And his quote, "This just isn't about one piece, it's about the entire community. And the responsibility to reduce the risk for those in California that might visit the theme parks."

At least that's a better answer. But I want to know if they are actually speaking with theme park people.

 

[Brittney Cornwell]

Question about theme park guidelines got this answer from Dr. Gally:

Here's a (very rough) summary of what he said: "Theme parks continues to be a high priority for the administration and recognizing their role in California life and employment opportunities for thousands of Californians, we don't take that lightly, we're working closely with the direct operators of theme parks and the overall agency representing theme parks and the labor partners representing the workers. We need to move forward together in a low risk and the safest way possible. I'm not sure when these conversations will wrap up, they will wrap up when we hear the industry concerns and continue to look at the data and information. No promise of a specific date (for guidelines), as soon as possible."

Issues they're concerned with according to Dr. Gally: impact of sector of theme parks on broader communities, surrounding neighborhoods, workplaces and industry. And his quote, "This just isn't about one piece, it's about the entire community. And the responsibility to reduce the risk for those in California that might visit the theme parks."

Much better summary then I could have given! It's hard to read through the lines when listening.... but does the impact on surroundig workplaces mean hotels/businesses in the surrounding area and how they would have been affected by the 120 mile radius guideline? Crossing my fingers they are consdiering this and scratch that guideline!

 

[TikiTikiFan]

Another question about some counties not disclosing outbreaks 'especially with the possibility of theme parks reopening', asking should they be asked to disclose outbreaks by an executive order, etc. Answer not necessarily relevant to theme parks but thought it was interesting that the reporter basically accused theme parks of creating outbreaks in that question.

Yeah, I don't think "soon" is going to be anytime soon ya'll.

 

[Brittney Cornwell]

At least that's a better answer. But I want to know if they are actually speaking with theme park people.

He claimed they were again

 

[EmJ]

Much better summary then I could have given! It's hard to read through the lines when listening.... but does the impact on surroundig workplaces mean hotels/businesses in the surrounding area and how they would have been affected by the 120 mile radius guideline? Crossing my fingers they are consdiering this and scratch that guideline!

I interpreted it as the impact that an outbreak or infection at a theme park could have on the broader community and surrounding workplaces. So, say a superspreader individual visits Disneyland and stays at the BWPPI. An housekeeper cleaning his/her room then contracts the virus, takes it home, and spreads it to their child and their child's school. I'm not saying this would happen, but it seems that the state's concern is on health impacts, no economic ones.

 

[Brittney Cornwell]

I interpreted it as the impact that an outbreak or infection at a theme park could have on the broader community and surrounding workplaces. So, say a superspreader individual visits Disneyland and stays at the BWPPI. An housekeeper cleaning his/her room then contracts the virus, takes it home, and spreads it to their child and their child's school. I'm not saying this would happen, but it seems that the state's concern is on health impacts, no economic ones.

You are probalby right! Although I like my theory much better.

 

[figmentfinesse]

I bought tickets from them [UT] on May 29th for a November trip that’s now looking really likely that it won’t happen. It’s outside of the 90 day time period and they’re e-tickets that have already been linked. I have seen on here they’ve been making exceptions, any personal experiences?

 

[theluckyrabbit]

I bought tickets from them on May 29th for a November trip that’s now looking really likely that it won’t happen. It’s outside of the 90 day time period and they’re e-tickets that have already been linked. I have seen on here they’ve been making exceptions, any personal experiences?

See the posts below for posters who received UT ticket refunds. 4 weeks appears to be the average time to process the refund.

I received a refund from UCT for our 3 day parkhoppers w/maxpass. Full refund minus 5%. It took exactly 1 month from the day I requested the refund.

This was my exact experience as well. August 25 to September 25.

 

[figmentfinesse]

See the posts below for posters who received UT ticket refunds. 4 weeks appears to be the average time to process the refund.

Thank you so much. I really hope being outside the 90 day window won’t be a problem.