Cases rising or dropping by you?

[NFLDERS]

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...one-faces-new-public-health-restrictions.html

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

We should be headed down to our low day for next week. So far today we have new 54,000 cases for today. Last week's high went into the books at over 70,000. Not good. 19 states are over 1,000 on the day.
Here, uh our state is getting worse now. Locally same thing. I was thinking of not letting my BIL come because he was a danger to us. Now I'm thinking it's us that could be the danger to him.....

Ok, board experts, on the replied death counts, who wants to differentiate between how many are dying of Covid-19 as opposed to dying with Covid-19?.... another fear driver.

What is the correct count? To show that the count is off, you will need to show where you've done your own count or link us to where someone else has and either you or they need to show the method of data collection so that it can be subjected to scrutiny. You seem to wish to count people that died of only covid without other factors as covid. I could very well take that to its fullest extent and claim nobody dies of covid. They die of complications of covid. Does that mean I get to argue the true count is zero. No because it was semantics. It doesn't change the reality of the situation. Alternatively to show that the count is off you could show a conspiracy to cheat. But the more people that have to be in on a conspiracy to make it work, the less chance it has of working. The number of people that would have to be in on this one so as to make 4 independent counts bad is just way too many. Are mistakes made? Sure. But are those mistakes making the counts way over what they should be on a broad scale. No.
And assuming one of the two things we could do to show all these counts way off, we still have the problem of explaining excess deaths. That is a completely independent data set from any of the counts and we can use it as a check against them. But if anything, it excess deaths indicate that if anything, those counts are under, not over.

 

[HeatherC]

Apparently all states besides two VT and MO are seeing cases rising.
Fun winter ahead...uggh


https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/18/health/us-coronavirus-sunday/index.html

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

"are those mistakes making the counts way over what they should be on a broad scale. No."
&
"excess deaths indicate that if anything, those counts are under, not over"

Well then, back at you

"YOU will need to show where you've done your own count or link us to where someone else has and either you or they need to show the method of data collection so that it can be subjected to scrutiny.

Sites that are doing counts independently of the CDC. I will link you to three. There are more. I assumed perhaps errantly that you knew them because at this point, they are common knowledge. Anyone that wishes to talk about how many Covid deaths there are should know at least one of them. Lecturing about Covid counts and not knowing any of these sites or excess deaths is like lecturing farmers about making money and not knowing what the break even points of their crops are.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-coronavirus-cases-world-map/
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map

There are articles about Excess deaths all over the place. you could have easily googled it. Here's a recent one.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health...ths-have-occurred-in-the-u-s-so-far-this-year

Further, you are the one making accusations that the counts are wrong and thinly veiled accusations of cheating. It is up to YOU to prove said assertion. And so far said proof from you is completely lacking.

 

[longboard55]

Cases in the OC are about the lowest in the nation. Time to open Disneyland. You want to know if masks work come to the OC, pretty much everything is open except Disneyland and strip clubs, but we follow rules

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Apparently all states besides two VT and MO are seeing cases rising.
Fun winter ahead...uggh


https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/18/health/us-coronavirus-sunday/index.html

It should be noted that in MO a software update was done due to a database error. It showed a large spike and then when investigated it was determined the system was adding multiple days together and applying it to just one day.

When it says "Only Missouri and Vermont recorded a more than 10% improvement in the average number of reported cases over the past week, according to the university's data." that's not really what happened.

Here's the data from the state's chart:

 

[longboard55]

it is better to follow 7 day average, daily cases can be off the norm.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

it is better to follow 7 day average, daily cases can be off the norm.

And the state does track that as well and the state is increasing. I was showing the information reflecting the data error which was corrected a few days ago. On Saturday 10/10 the system logged "a one-day increase of 5,066 new cases -- nearly 3,000 more than the previous one-day high." Once that was corrected and cases added to 10/10-10/13 the cases evened out a bit.






They are improving on deaths if looking at those 7 days.

 

[Chuck S]

Texas was trending down in new cases, but they've taken a little swing back up. Still not nearly the levels they were in July. Harris County (Houston) has the most currently active cases at over 21,000. My county has 361 currently active cases

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

Apparently all states besides two VT and MO are seeing cases rising.
Fun winter ahead...uggh


https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/18/health/us-coronavirus-sunday/index.html

Not to be nit-picky, but that isn’t exactly what the article says. It says 27 are showing increases (which is still terrible) and only 2 are showing decreases. The rest are holding steady. Of course we’d like to see decreases in all, but I’ll take steady (3.4% positivity for CA) over increasing.

 

[RamblingMad]

Not to be nit-picky, but that isn’t exactly what the article says. It says 27 are showing increases (which is still terrible) and only 2 are showing decreases. The rest are holding steady. Of course we’d like to see decreases in all, but I’ll take steady (3.4% positivity for CA) over increasing.

Keeping the positivity rate below 5% is key. It's time to preorder those PS5s and buy more LEGOs. We will all need therapy for agoraphobia in 2022.

 

[mantysk8coach]

The positivity rate here in WI is hovering around 20% and no one is batting an eye. They shrug it off and head to the bar, or to that 300+ guest wedding. We’re screwed.

One of our best friends just tested positive. He’s a first grade teacher that really goes nowhere besides work and the grocery store. Thankfully he just has cold symptoms and loss of taste and smell, but is otherwise ok. It’s just getting harder and harder to dodge.

 

[RamblingMad]

The positivity rate here in WI is hovering around 20% and no one is batting an eye. They shrug it off and head to the bar, or to that 300+ guest wedding. We’re screwed.

One of our best friends just tested positive. He’s a first grade teacher that really goes nowhere besides work and the grocery store. Thankfully he just has cold symptoms and loss of taste and smell, but is otherwise ok. It’s just getting harder and harder to dodge.

It's the after effects that people forget. The brain fog. The tiredness. The exhaustion after activity. I wish more news would cover the long hauler effects. Sure. It won't kill you if you're young, but the after effects are terrible. I know one guy at work that had it. He spent a week in the hospital. Now, he has trouble driving and only makes it in once a week. It's good that he can work from home. But it sucks how long this effects people.

We were in the 20% range over the summer here in AZ. Hopefully, we can keep it in the 5% range through the winters. It will really depend on how impactful the snowbirds are on us.

 

[*DisneyDreamer]

The positivity rate here in WI is hovering around 20% and no one is batting an eye. They shrug it off and head to the bar, or to that 300+ guest wedding. We’re screwed.

One of our best friends just tested positive. He’s a first grade teacher that really goes nowhere besides work and the grocery store. Thankfully he just has cold symptoms and loss of taste and smell, but is otherwise ok. It’s just getting harder and harder to dodge.

I really don’t understand how people can be so lax. It’s really disheartening that you can be so careful and still get it. The next few months are going to suck.

On the bright side for now, my test result from Friday was negative.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I really don’t understand how people can be so lax. It’s really disheartening that you can be so careful and still get it. The next few months are going to suck.

On the bright side for now, my test result from Friday was negative.

It's all over. I was reading that someone was about to have a wedding in NYC with up to 10,000 attendees!! It was stopped before it could happen but countries from all around the world have at least some degree of laxness issues going on.

As far as being so careful and still getting it you have to realize that all of the measures in place are only about possible reduction in getting it. People still wear masks and get it, people still wash their hands and get it, people still stay home and get it. As much as there are issues on one side of the spectrum in not utilizing any precautions and thinking you're fine is using a variety of precautions and thinking you're fine. And majority of the time people seem to be blaming someone else thinking their laxness is the exact reason they got it but the virus doesn't work like that. We're just hoping to mitigate risk which does not translate into not getting it.


**Glad to hear about the negative test

 

[*DisneyDreamer]

It's all over. I was reading that someone was about to have a wedding in NYC with up to 10,000 attendees!! It was stopped before it could happen but countries from all around the world have at least some degree of laxness issues going on.

As far as being so careful and still getting it you have to realize that all of the measures in place are only about possible reduction in getting it. People still wear masks and get it, people still wash their hands and get it, people still stay home and get it. As much as there are issues on one side of the spectrum in not utilizing any precautions and thinking you're fine is using a variety of precautions and thinking you're fine. And majority of the time people seem to be blaming someone else thinking their laxness is the exact reason they got it but the virus doesn't work like that. We're just hoping to mitigate risk which does not translate into not getting it.


**Glad to hear about the negative test

That’s crazy! I’m so glad they stopped it.

And absolutely, I completely understand that preventative measures aren’t 100% and know that the virus doesn’t care. I don’t wish it on anyone, but it’s just frustrating that some people are going places in high risk settings constantly and are fine while others have no idea where it comes from.

 

[chickapin parterre]

Washington post has a great insight article about Sturgis rally and border states spread.

 

[LuvOrlando]

Don't know about all that, I'm still scrubbing my groceries because no matter what the stats are about how low my chances are the fact remains that a whole lot of someone's are on the wrong side of those numbers and I do not want to be one of them if I can help it.

Seems Pa is gathering steam for an upswing so that's scary but not really a surprise. Was in Ma last week and realized I am ok with participating in some form of life if I feel everyone is being careful. I don't feel comfortable when I am in Pa but I did feel somewhat more confident in Ma so I went to get some medical care (they require you wear new masks they provide and have you apply Purel in the lobby at a security checkpoint and also have greeters at the office doors controlling entry), visited with other humans 6ft apart, didn't escape to another bedroom when my husband went to a business meeting, went to the beach, ordered takeout a few times (reheat) and actually went into a Trader Joe's. It felt like a vacation, sad but true.

Before I could set foot in the Boston hospital for other testing I had to get a SARS-CoV-2 test (it's policy because I also spend time in Pa) and did it at CVS. The test was self administered under the watch of the drive through person who told me what to do and when, it was simple and I was gentle, I guess it went up far but I rolled it between my fingers and did it very slowly so I felt nothing. The wand was very thin and long (to make it more bendy I think) and soft with a teensy brush at the end the looked sort of like the world's littlest mascara brush. Took 2 days to see results online and was negative, test was nowhere near as bad as some make it out to be. I didn't LOVE it but it wasn't a big deal, I read somewhere that going along the soft side of the nose is better than the harder septum so that's what I did.

 

[godisney14]

https://www.businessinsider.com/swe...wn-strategy-amid-growing-case-numbers-2020-10
Looks like Sweden is changing tactics with their coronavirus strategy. Anyone still think what Sweden did was a good thing?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-diabetes-insight-idUKKBN2741ET
And, as if we needed some more reasons to try to avoid catching this disease.

 

[RamblingMad]

https://www.businessinsider.com/swe...wn-strategy-amid-growing-case-numbers-2020-10
Looks like Sweden is changing tactics with their coronavirus strategy. Anyone still think what Sweden did was a good thing?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-diabetes-insight-idUKKBN2741ET
And, as if we needed some more reasons to try to avoid catching this disease.

The second wave has pretty much hit already. It’s how we react to it that matters. My neighbors behind me had a Halloween party. I’m still convinced people aren’t taking it seriously enough.