Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[yulilin3]

Just thinking about losing two night spectaculars, wonder if it’s HEA that is in danger.

50th celebration probably coming at MK. This could run 12-18 months. Plus the Halloween and Christmas parties have their unique shows.

Seriously doubt it's HEA, if I had to guess i would say F! and OUAT and SWaGS

 

[SaintsManiac]

Better not be HEA. I'm ready to pay $200 for a cupcake and seat on the garden viewing grass.

 

[Mit88]

HEA is highly popular. It hasn’t reached Wishes levels yet, but give it a few more years and people will be comparing the two. I love it. The music, the blending of the music, the projections, even the pyro. To me, it’s the perfect nighttime show, and I loved Wishes, and Disneyland Forever.

 

[Mit88]

I liked the DL version back when it first premiered and you could just stand around the Rivers of America and watch it rather than the HS version where you had to get in there super early (again when it first premiered in 98) to get a good spot and then were stuck in there for a while once it ended waiting to leave. But that’s just how we tour and what we were more comfortable with. We’ve never been fans of theater nighttime shows (or many daytime shows either). We usually like to watch fireworks on our way out of the park to get a jump on the transportation crash that occurs when they end. So we usually see HEA from MS by the Emporium and Illuminations from the bridge between UK and France to then head out the IG.

See for me, it’s the opposite. While I’m more likely to catch a show like fantasmic the way it’s set up at DL where I can just arrive minutes before and get a decent view, if I’m in the mood to watch fantasmic, I’d much rather sit and enjoy it rather than worry about how quick I can get out. Usually if I see it at DHS I purposely see the last show so I don’t feel like I need to rush out to hit up more rides. By the time I get out of Fantasmic, the Star Wars show has either already started, or just about to start and I’ve always been able to get a great spot for it. I’ve done the rope drop to close with no breaks days too many times when I was young to not appreciate the ability to sit back and relax when I get the chance to, even when in the parks.

I should note that usually when I go to EPCOT or DHS I’m staying at either Boardwalk or Beach Club, and when I go to MK I’m at Poly or WL, and I haven’t stayed anywhere other than Disneyland Hotel or Grand Californian in the 7 times I’ve been to DLR in my life. So typically I’m not really worried about transportation when the parks are closing

 

[rteetz]

HEA is highly popular. It hasn’t reached Wishes levels yet, but give it a few more years and people will be comparing the two. I love it. The music, the blending of the music, the projections, even the pyro. To me, it’s the perfect nighttime show, and I loved Wishes, and Disneyland Forever.

I don't know about that. In this social media age I think HEA is right there if not even more popular than Wishes. Those around here have that nostalgic tie to Wishes because it was around for so long. I think many already consider it better than Wishes. I don't mind either. Wishes had its time. It was a lovely show. HEA takes that to the next level with increased tech. It has just as much if not more pyro.

 

[rteetz]

OUAT

Per the source on WDWmagic, this wouldn't even be included in the two as its not considered a major nighttime entertainment/show.

 

[MrsBooch]

Thanks so much to everyone who reached out about my son - i so appreciate that

This thread is the best. I'm seriously considering making a shirt with my Board name in the event that any of you are in the parks and we can social distantly wave at each other while my husband asks questions in his head and looks on quizzically.

 

[gottalovepluto]

F! gets my vote as the potential second dead show.

I could see a major new nighttime show replacing F! The setup of the major stadium and full shows is too much potential to flush forever but imho F! could use a major rework, possibly to the point of a whole new show. Heck, I wouldn’t be surprised if the idea had been floating around WDI before COVID.

Now would be an easy time to close it forever and spend the next couple years waiting through the lean times and then developing a brand new show to drive nighttime interest once Disney can have crowds again.

 

[anthony2k7]

I don't know about that. In this social media age I think HEA is right there if not even more popular than Wishes. Those around here have that nostalgic tie to Wishes because it was around for so long. I think many already consider it better than Wishes. I don't mind either. Wishes had its time. It was a lovely show. HEA takes that to the next level with increased tech. It has just as much if not more pyro.

I'm here to be controversial as usual.

For me HEA didn't really feel a coherent story. It just kinda felt like ramming in as much IP as possible as is the way with Disney these days. Yes its technically superior but that alone definitely doesn't make it better.

Wishes is an emotional story from beginning to end with perfect words, music, pyro throughout. I cant see any other show ever coming close to that for me at least.

 

[disneygirlsng]

I'm here to be controversial as usual.

For me HEA didn't really feel a coherent story. It just kinda felt like ramming in as much IP as possible as is the way with Disney these days. Yes its technically superior but that alone definitely doesn't make it better.

Wishes is an emotional story from beginning to end with perfect words, music, pyro throughout. I cant see any other show ever coming close to that for me at least.

See for me, the story and emotion of HEA is unmatched. No part of Wishes compares to that line of music when Tink flies. I tear up just thinking about it. Plus the general message is way better.
I just find it far, far superior in every way, shape, or form, except nostalgia.

 

[anthony2k7]

Back on topic.

DLP closure risk again. France gov are having crisis meeting today with extending curfews even further (how?!) Or closure of non essential businesses or full stay at home order being considered.

 

[yulilin3]

Back on topic.

DLP closure risk again. France gov are having crisis meeting today with extending curfews even further (how?!) Or closure of non essential businesses or full stay at home order being considered.

100% agree, the message surpasses wishes in every way, i get so worked up when people say HEA doesn't have a story and it's just a bunch of music clips and images bundled together

 

[anthony2k7]

100% agree, the message surpasses wishes in every way, i get so worked up when people say HEA doesn't have a story and it's just a bunch of music clips and images bundled together

I think the issue is the message is very different and so HEA perhaps doesn't trigger emotions in so many people. But I can believe those who do have a connection to that message feel strongly about it. Its just im not one of them.

 

[anthony2k7]

See for me, the story and emotion of HEA is unmatched. No part of Wishes compares to that line of music when Tink flies. I tear up just thinking about it. Plus the general message is way better.
I just find it far, far superior in every way, shape, or form, except nostalgia.

The line in HEA is "you can fly" vs in wishes people stating their wishes from classics. Wishes definitely way more emotional for me.

 

[Moliphino]

See for me, the story and emotion of HEA is unmatched. No part of Wishes compares to that line of music when Tink flies. I tear up just thinking about it. Plus the general message is way better.
I just find it far, far superior in every way, shape, or form, except nostalgia.

Some of the music choices in HEA are weird to me, too. "That's What Friends Are For" is not about friendship, "Love is an Open Door" is essentially the villain song in Frozen, not really a love song. And I'm always annoyed that they used the end credits version of "Go The Distance" instead of the movie version.

 

[MickeyWaffles]

100% agree, the message surpasses wishes in every way, i get so worked up when people say HEA doesn't have a story and it's just a bunch of music clips and images bundled together

It really depends on the person. The messages in both are good. They hit people differently. And I think it depends on what’s going on in your life at the time, too.

I think many people felt deep connections to Wishes. It was hopeful for times of despair. When you’re running on empty and have nothing left. Wishes was particularly emotional for me, as it was running as I was going through a very difficult time. I know many on here wished for specific things during that show too - there used to be a thread about it way back, if I recall. People who were terminally ill, going through incredibly difficult times, etc. wished on those fireworks.

Everyone is emotionally tied to things for different reasons based on what’s happening in their life. I like HEA. I tear up during go the distance and when the full choir chimes in toward the end. But I don’t like projections. I miss the picture perfect beauty of the traditional castle framed by fireworks. I don’t like Cinderella castle used as a movie screen. That’s just my aesthetic preference. I like the HEA music and fireworks. I am becoming emotionally tied to it because HEA is the show my kids are growing up with. I know I will look back on it fondly.

I think these shows hit people differently. They connect to them emotionally based on many factors and it’s impossible to say which one is “best.” It’s totally subjective.

 

[disneygirlsng]

The line in HEA is "you can fly" vs in wishes people stating their wishes from classics. Wishes definitely way more emotional for me.

It's all subjective. I guess I just get way more emotional watching the characters actually following and achieving their dreams rather than just wishing for them.

And I find the show to be just as fantastic with or without the projections, the music and fireworks alone are good enough for me.

But this isn't a HEA/Wishes thread, so back to doom and gloom I guess.

 

[anthony2k7]

It really depends on the person. The messages in both are good. They hit people differently. And I think it depends on what’s going on in your life at the time, too.

I think many people felt deep connections to Wishes. It was hopeful for times of despair. When you’re running on empty and have nothing left. Wishes was particularly emotional for me, as it was running as I was going through a very difficult time. I know many on here wished for specific things during that show too - there used to be a thread about it way back, if I recall. People who were terminally ill, going through incredibly difficult times, etc. wished on those fireworks.

Everyone is emotionally tied to things for different reasons based on what’s happening in their life. I like HEA. I tear up during go the distance and when the full choir chimes in toward the end. But I don’t like projections. I miss the picture perfect beauty of the traditional castle framed by fireworks. I don’t like Cinderella castle used as a movie screen. That’s just my aesthetic preference. I like the HEA music and fireworks. I am becoming emotionally tied to it because HEA is the show my kids are growing up with. I know I will look back on it fondly.

I think these shows hit people differently. They connect to them emotionally based on many factors and it’s impossible to say which one is “best.” It’s totally subjective.

I'm not a great fan of the projections either. To me they distract from the music a little.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

HEA has grown on me, but my biggest issues with it from the start still remain - I don’t like that it feels like cramming as many IP clips in as they could vs the flowing storyline of Wishes, and I don’t like the projections in general that limit the places you can see the full show from and in turn make it more important to spend time or money finding a good spot.

 

[Farro]

Could they possibly mean the electric water parade isn't coming back? It's a nighttime show of sorts.