shellott-hill
A Dopey runner
- Joined
- Aug 21, 2009
Right now the best guess is January 6, 1010 will be the day of the 5k...only 387 days to go!
Thanks, that’s what I was thinking, the fifth being the first day of the expo.Right now the best guess is January 6, 1010 will be the day of the 5k...only 387 days to go!
I’d definitely think so. Jan 12-16 seems too late.My guess is this has been noted somewhere but are the “working dates” for this Jan 5-9? Have a reservation for wine and dine weekend, but thinking we’ll want this as a backup as I’m pretty confident this will happen while fall 2021 is probably 2/3 likely. Thanks
That’s nearly two years. PoT is going to be a mess but I’m not sure they can do that. While there aren’t the normal amount of races there are local chip times races happening now and as more things improve they will continue to come back.Wonder if they'll allow POT's from 2020 since COVID made official 2021 racing very difficult. If I can't get A corral with a 2020 POT I doubt I'll even bother registering since I'm going for sub 2:50.
Yeah, this is an event that falls into the category of concerts, Broadway shows etc....When those are a go again, it's going to be like winning the lottery to get tickets. Regular season baseball games may sell out...LOLIf 2022 Marathon Weekend can happen live, I’m even more anxious about registration now. With such a long break, people are going to be so ready to sign up that I just anticipate a nightmare.
No chip timed races in my county, and few in the area. Those that are in nearby counties have mostly been 5k or trail races which, of course, are much slower than road races. And we haven’t wanted to go very far out for racing. I think most people would NOT have appropriate POT, and many corrals will have to be based on appropriate times submitted by runners. E.g. right now I’m running a 10-11 minute mile, and also was able to do that for the Peachtree Virtual 10K. For a half or challenge, it would most likely be 11-12. If only people would be honest!That’s nearly two years. PoT is going to be a mess but I’m not sure they can do that. While there aren’t the normal amount of races there are local chip times races happening now and as more things improve they will continue to come back.
No chip timed races in my county, and few in the area. Those that are in nearby counties have mostly been 5k or trail races which, of course, are much slower than road races. And we haven’t wanted to go very far out for racing. I think most people would NOT have appropriate POT, and many corrals will have to be based on appropriate times submitted by runners. E.g. right now I’m running a 10-11 minute mile, and also was able to do that for the Peachtree Virtual 10K. For a half or challenge, it would most likely be 11-12. If only people would be honest!
I live in suburban Chicago and while there have been almost no races in the area, I have raced this summer/fall in Wisconsin, Indiana, and Kentucky. The Run the Bluegrass half marathon in Lexington was a long drive, but I was impressed by the measures they were taking to "ensure" (my words) safety, and I managed to get the result I wanted to be in a good corral when runDisney starts again. My old PoT was no longer good enough to get into a timed corral with the new requirements.No chip timed races in my county, and few in the area. Those that are in nearby counties have mostly been 5k or trail races which, of course, are much slower than road races. And we haven’t wanted to go very far out for racing. I think most people would NOT have appropriate POT, and many corrals will have to be based on appropriate times submitted by runners. E.g. right now I’m running a 10-11 minute mile, and also was able to do that for the Peachtree Virtual 10K. For a half or challenge, it would most likely be 11-12. If only people would be honest!
As far as people being honest...I'm afraid to say it just will not happen. I have spoken with a bunch of people of the past few years who say that:
- It's not dishonest, it's clever
- Everyone else does it, so I need to just to keep up
- For all of the money I paid, I will do whatever I want to
- You are the bad person, not me, because you may judge me and that is unacceptable
- It increases my pleasure/satisfaction and that is all that matters
I agree, although that means I would sometimes have to whack myself on the head. I see this attitude everywhere; rich and poor, liberal and conservative, white Black and brown, young and old.I feel an overwhelming urge to whack these people upside the head, only it won't do any good. Selfish me-centric a-holes will always be selfish me-centric a-holes. One need only look around the country today to see it all in action.
As far as people being honest...I'm afraid to say it just will not happen. I have spoken with a bunch of people of the past few years who say that:
- It's not dishonest, it's clever
- Everyone else does it, so I need to just to keep up
- For all of the money I paid, I will do whatever I want to
- You are the bad person, not me, because you may judge me and that is unacceptable
- It increases my pleasure/satisfaction and that is all that matters
Wonder if they'll allow POT's from 2020 since COVID made official 2021 racing very difficult. If I can't get A corral with a 2020 POT I doubt I'll even bother registering since I'm going for sub 2:50.
Just a personal experience from running one half without POT and one with at DIS. (I've never seen it really matter anywhere else FWIW). So in 2016, Wine and Dine was my first half and I had no POT because in the Houston area, if you don't run the half in January at the Houston Marathon or the Woodlands Half in March, there is nothing over the summer and I was not up to 13 miles yet. I did a 10-miler in early OCT, but too late.They probably won't do it, but I'd love to see them extend the window AND the cutoff time. A 2:45 half (even for the first year back), would mean more work for placing people but would accurately distribute more people across corrals. Instead of everyone claiming a pace that puts them in the first non-proof of time corral.
Just a personal experience from running one half without POT and one with at DIS. (I've never seen it really matter anywhere else FWIW). So in 2016, Wine and Dine was my first half and I had no POT because in the Houston area, if you don't run the half in January at the Houston Marathon or the Woodlands Half in March, there is nothing over the summer and I was not up to 13 miles yet. I did a 10-miler in early OCT, but too late.
Anyway, I found the people in the first corral without POT to be very accommodating to me, letting me get to the front without any complaints at all before the start. So I was off with clear sailing for about 5 minutes and then I hit a wall of people walking 6-7 across.....thats when the jumping curbs, off and on medians occurred and it slowed me down, BUT my last mile was 8:12. I was irritated because I wanted to come in under 2 hours and I was 2:03.
Fast forward a year later, wife and I did challenge at Food and Wine. I had a POT which made the 10k free of any real obstacles crowd wise, obviously. Very humid that weekend so half seemed like a bear, stopped for a potty break, pictures with Oswald and a couple others (no lines really) whereas I didn't stop once the year before for anything. Final time. 2:05 and without the pics and bathroom, clearly would have been about the same time.
So moral of the story is, your time may not be that affected. I'm always impressed people opt in to the corrals behind the first one that doesn't require POT anyway simply because it makes it harder to get swept the further up you start. Anyway, I hope this is an issue because that means the races have returned!
I think it was just Oswald and Dopey and I was in the first corral after the “elite” folks I think so no one really waiting there or at the porta potty. I was sort of surprised it was 2:05 even with my watch going and I sort of conceded sub 2 so I was irritated thinking it would have been close if I made no stops again.I’m just impressed you peed AND did character stops in 2 minutes .
I’ve run with and without a PoT at Disney. My experience is that is makes a large difference (at my pace).