Invited My Wife's Brother and His Family and... Crickets

Take my answer with a grain of salt because seriously I know none of you and it's not my business. But you posted so here goes:
It seems like your wife wants the family connections between the kids. I understand this as I also am someone who trys to make these things happen for my own grandson. ( who has no siblings and no first cousins)
BUT, to do this, arrange for this at WDW, that is a disaster waiting to occur. Expectations will be high and easily crushed!
If $$ is not an option on your end , travel to them, stay in the nicest hotel or resort in their area, spend 3 days, plan outings where it's geared towards the kids and be done.
She really does, as its her only sibling, she still remembers fondly of them being young, and my family is a bit bigger, but we really aren't close to any one of my siblings.

If we do a trip there, it will be like you suggested: a nicer hotel or resort and we plan activities around the kids.
 
OMG - I can relate!!!

Back in January we invited my husbands sister (and her family) and brother (and his family) to join us at Aulani for a 12 night stay immediately this coming Xmas. We would leave on Boxing Day, and return right before the kids go back to school. All have school age children that really enjoy hanging out together at Aulani. We booked a two bedroom villa for our family (with extra space for cousins to bunk if they want) and two separate DVC hotel rooms (very hard to get at Xmas)…one for each of them so their families would have their own home base. We offered the rooms, transportation (we’ve booked a transit van), a fully stocked (from Costco) kitchen and bar in our 2 bedroom that they are able to use anytime and excursions for the kids. All they have to pay for is flights and any meals that they choose to eat out.

Crickets. Compete and utter silence.

The booking window opened and since I had already extended the invite, I booked the rooms. I’m currently tying up almost 3 years of points holding these 3 rooms and everyone is still unwilling to commit. And it’s not like we never we talk! But everytime we do and bring up the trip it’s “we really haven’t had time to discuss it as a family”. I’ve tried to be patient, but it’s been almost 4 months!!!! and there are really other things that I would like to be doing with my points if they don’t want to come.

I sent them both a note last week letting them know that I really my need to know by May 15th whether they want to come (which is true because I need the points for something else then if they don’t want them), so to please let me know as soon as they can. No response/acknowledgment from either of them to my emails. 🤦🏼‍♀️
Wow, I think you may win the most stressful invite ever. We would only have around 140 points tied up in their room (one week in a LV studio at the Poly), but you're right. If they aren't coming, just politely decline. I'm sure you're not going to shun them if they were to decline BEFORE the May 15th deadline. I hope you hear from them soon!!
 
I don't know, maybe it's just me, but regardless of if they understand how much you're offering to save them by covering the hotel with your DVC I just find their complete lack of interest or response to be incredibly off-putting. I understand your wife wanting your kids to meet their cousins, but these do not sound like people I would want to travel with.

I hope you and your family have a great time at WDW (as a VERY recent DVC owner I'm jealous of your home resort), and frankly I wouldn't push the issue with your brother-in-law. At this point I'd say the ball is firmly in their court.
I am a bit disappointed that they can't even find a minute or two to email or send a text. And no, they are not people you would want to travel with. If they accept, I'm sure it will be a one-and-done.

Thanks! We cannot wait for August 2023 to the point that we are planning the Man/June 2024 trip and added a January 2024 long weekend.

Where's your home resort, if you don't mind me asking?
 
I worry that if OP leaves it up to them to make the next move, and they don't understand the issue of timing, that they may assume they can join last-minute, and that will cause further friction.
It seems that my wife and I will need to communicate with them soon about the 11 month booking window and the very serious "eight" month booking deadline. Plus we will likely do separate rooms just for the space, as it would be too much to be in the same room with them, even if it was a 3BR Grand Villa.
 
I definitely agree, and it's a tricky situation. I guess I just feel like if I invited family (or close friends, for that matter) on a nice vacation and they didn't even reply to the initial contact (and only kind of replied to a follow-up) I wouldn't feel particularly inclined to put in a lot of effort.
This is where I am at currently. I know they don't get everything that goes into planning a WDW vacation, but there's not much interest being shown, even questions to help them make a decision one way or another. I'm already busy with my own vacation planning and it's not up to me and my wife to decide how to plan their trip if they are paying for tickets and food.
 
I don’t think it’s so much that they don’t want to go to Disney or don’t understand the value of the points or the planning involved. I think they just aren’t interested in being with or around their family. They’ve made that blatantly clear since you haven’t seen them since 2016 and they don’t come to visit.

I would reach out once more explaining that you have to book at the 11 month mark and throw in some details. If you don’t hear back just plan on going without them.
I'm realizing this since the invite and even past holidays. I feel bad that its happening to my wife. I know she wishes she was closer to them and our boys could see each other.
 
Where's your home resort, if you don't mind me asking?

Animal Kingdom! Which is honestly just about the best possible choice for me other than Poly. I'm obsessed with the Animal Kingdom park and have been saying every since my first adult WDW trip in 2018 that it was a dream to get to stay at AKL someday. I'm planning a trip for the week of 4th of July next year with my best friend and we'll probably stay at AKL in a savannah view studio, but we might switch to one of the villas at Wilderness Lodge just for the benefit of a murphy bed over a pull out couch (my friend is what I would call a violent sleeper, we will not be sharing a bed, and as the DVC owner he has agreed that I should get the "real" bed).

Edited to add: If he and I don't end up doing AKL on our trip, my mom and I will be going in September 2025 and we'll definitely be staying at AKL.
 
Honestly, from what you have stated I think you could offer them the vacation in its entirety and you would still get radio silence. Which is unfortunate for your family.
(Having dealt with family like such, its disheartening. We have nephews that we only know via fb.)

It's unfortunate they can't just be upfront and just say no thank you.

Book your disney vacation with your immediate family and have a wonderful time..
 
Animal Kingdom! Which is honestly just about the best possible choice for me other than Poly. I'm obsessed with the Animal Kingdom park and have been saying every since my first adult WDW trip in 2018 that it was a dream to get to stay at AKL someday. I'm planning a trip for the week of 4th of July next year with my best friend and we'll probably stay at AKL in a savannah view studio, but we might switch to one of the villas at Wilderness Lodge just for the benefit of a murphy bed over a pull out couch (my friend is what I would call a violent sleeper, we will not be sharing a bed, and as the DVC owner he has agreed that I should get the "real" bed).

Edited to add: If he and I don't end up doing AKL on our trip, my mom and I will be going in September 2025 and we'll definitely be staying at AKL.
Awesome! Animal Kingdom looks amazing! Our August 2023 vacation will be a split stay between Poly LV for seven nights and then two nights at AKV-Kidani in a 1BR savanna view. Our boys love animals, so I cannot wait to see their faces when they see the animals from our room. We will be spending our second to last full park day and the morning we fly out at Animal Kingdom.

Our hope is to do split stays every once in a while just to get a feel for other resorts. We were at OKW in April 2022 and I really like the relaxed vibe, but my wife hated just having buses for transportation (mainly because one morning we saw the MK bus leave our stop as we were walking to the stop and the next bus didn't come for about 40 minutes). Plus I love the monorail. It was a favorite of mine since I was young. Thankfully the Poly is pretty easy to get at 7 months, so its there for you whenever you want to visit.
 
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Honestly, from what you have stated I think you could offer them the vacation in its entirety and you would still get radio silence. Which is unfortunate for your family.
(Having dealt with family like such, its disheartening. We have nephews that we only know via fb.)

It's unfortunate they can't just be upfront and just say no thank you.

Book your disney vacation with your immediate family and have a wonderful time..
If I was a betting person, I would put my money on you being right.
Thank you!! We will enjoy this one and every one after it!
 
Awesome! Animal Kingdom looks amazing! Our August 2023 vacation will be a split stay between Poly LV for seven nights and then two nights at AKV-Kidani in a 1BR savanna view. Our boys love animals, so I cannot wait to see their faces when the see the animals from our room. We will be spending our second to last full park day and the morning we fly out at Animal Kingdom.

Our hope is to do split stays every once in a while just to get a feel for other resorts. We were at OKW in April 2022 and I really like the relaxed vibe, but my wife hated just having buses for transportation (mainly because one morning we saw the MK bus leave our stop as we were walking to the stop and the next bus didn't come for about 40 minutes). Plus I love the monorail. It was a favorite of mine since I was young. Thankfully the Poly is pretty easy to get at 7 months, so its there for you whenever you want to visit.
I've always shied away from split stays because of the hassle of packing everything up and moving it between resorts. I'm on the west coast, so I have to fly in and we don't rent a car we just rely on Disney transportation (or we did when Magical Express was a thing, I'm not sure what we'll do to get from the airport to the resort now). Then again, with Minnie Vans back (at least they were last I heard) maybe moving from one resort to another wouldn't be so bad - we could do 3 nights an AKL and 4 at BRV or CCV.
 
I feel for you. TBH most people, even "regular" Disney vacationers, do not get the planning/commitment involved with DVC vacations. Based on time of year and room category, you may need to reserve at 11 months - hard commit to exact dates. For most locations, rooms, and time of year, you hard commit at 7 months. Cancelling never has zero implications. At a minimum, even if you cancel before 31 days before your banking window, sitting on the reservation/points takes away your flexibility for future vacations. Don't even bring up holding and banking windows...

With DVC - you hard commit at 11 months many times and have no chance to "rebook" by just moving it around a week or two. With cash stays, you can book stuff at 30-60 days, no problem. You can move the dates around with little to no impact right up to the vacation. You can cancel at 5 days with no impact. Most people do not realize what you are offering or the restrictions that come with it. They think you are crazy planning this far in advance and think you are being rigid or inflexible with your plans. Even if you can get them to appreciate your position, their unsaid thoughts are "why would anyone spend that much money to buy into a system with that little flexibly and so many rules". We think "no flexibility? What do you mean? I can stay at all these resorts!....... if I get lucky enogh to book a stay...
 
People who don't own timeshares don't understand the need to plan trips 11 months in advance.

Maybe you can make plans based upon a resort and room that is easier to get closer to the dates of travel, like a villa at Saratoga Springs or Old Key West rather than a monorail resort? Assuming use year deadlines won't get in the way of changing plans.
 
I feel for you. TBH most people, even "regular" Disney vacationers, do not get the planning/commitment involved with DVC vacations. Based on time of year and room category, you may need to reserve at 11 months - hard commit to exact dates. For most locations, rooms, and time of year, you hard commit at 7 months. Cancelling never has zero implications. At a minimum, even if you cancel before 31 days before your banking window, sitting on the reservation/points takes away your flexibility for future vacations. Don't even bring up holding and banking windows...

With DVC - you hard commit at 11 months many times and have no chance to "rebook" by just moving it around a week or two. With cash stays, you can book stuff at 30-60 days, no problem. You can move the dates around with little to no impact right up to the vacation. You can cancel at 5 days with no impact. Most people do not realize what you are offering or the restrictions that come with it. They think you are crazy planning this far in advance and think you are being rigid or inflexible with your plans. Even if you can get them to appreciate your position, their unsaid thoughts are "why would anyone spend that much money to buy into a system with that little flexibly and so many rules". We think "no flexibility? What do you mean? I can stay at all these resorts!....... if I get lucky enogh to book a stay...
Thankfully Poly studios are pretty easy to book around seven months, but you're absolutely right about the misconceptions of DVC, even to the well-initiated WDW vacationer.

And I like the flexibility/rigidity of DVC. I find the planning to be an escape, exciting, and relaxing. I don't think I have found it to be frustrating or a hindrance in any way. I look forward to my planning DVC time.
 
I think it's possible there's yet another reason why Finn and Jack haven't gotten a definite response.

When such an offer is made, the invitees may feel obliged to return the invitation to something approximately equal.

Except, they know they can't do that and are too embarrassed to (they feel) admit it by politely declining even though that could be as simple as, "Very kind of you. Thanks so much. Unfortunately, it just isn't workable for us."

It's easier and a way to save face by simply not responding, because they may feel it's like taking charity from a wealthy benefactor. They've nothing like it to offer in return and may think it's rude not to.
 
You're setting yourself up to fail. You barely know them, and you have no idea if this fits into their lifestyle or their budget, and this is EXPENSIVE, even with a free room.

When this happened to me, I took it really personally, and it impacted the relationship. https://www.disboards.com/threads/it-finally-happened-they-flaked.3878000/

But now I see it as more complicated discussion of money and pride, and me slinging around my fancy Disney trips, and I'm less sympathetic to my view. I couldn't understand rejecting such a valuable gift, and they couldn't understand why I burdened them with such an expensive "gift."

They don't want to travel. They didn't respond. They didn't invite you on anything else. They don't have any other ideas. They don't want to do it.

And it sounds like you don't want to do it either.
 
I think it's possible there's yet another reason why Finn and Jack haven't gotten a definite response.

When such an offer is made, the invitees may feel obliged to return the invitation to something approximately equal.

Except, they know they can't do that and are too embarrassed to (they feel) admit it by politely declining even though that could be as simple as, "Very kind of you. Thanks so much. Unfortunately, it just isn't workable for us."

It's easier and a way to save face by simply not responding, because they may feel it's like taking charity from a wealthy benefactor. They've nothing like it to offer in return and may think it's rude not to.
In the case of Finn I could see this being the case. In the case of Jack, enough other behavior by the invitees has been discussed that I don’t think this is what’s going on. Since 2016 his BIL and his family haven’t made any effort to Jack’s family in any capacity. That doesn’t come across to me as a financial issue, that comes across as not having interest in having a relationship.
 
I think it's possible there's yet another reason why Finn and Jack haven't gotten a definite response.

When such an offer is made, the invitees may feel obliged to return the invitation to something approximately equal.

Except, they know they can't do that and are too embarrassed to (they feel) admit it by politely declining even though that could be as simple as, "Very kind of you. Thanks so much. Unfortunately, it just isn't workable for us."

It's easier and a way to save face by simply not responding, because they may feel it's like taking charity from a wealthy benefactor. They've nothing like it to offer in return and may think it's rude not to.
I could definitely agree with this sentiment, and from my perspective, I'm blown away by the offer from @FinnFogg. I guess owning DVC has normalized the privilege we have to purchase something that means I get to take my family to WDW until I'm 82 years old.

I almost wanted to see if @FinnFogg and my family could be friends and host each other. But to that point, I know I want to buy more points eventually to be able to invite friends and family on our future trips. Maybe you're right. Perhaps to my brother-in-law, our decision to buy DVC and extending this invitation is a gift he cannot reciprocate.

And to @FinnFogg, if you decide you want to be friends for future vacations, just let me know. Full disclosure: my wife and I have three boys, ages 8, 5, and 3. They are sweet, but they can be a handful.
 
You're setting yourself up to fail. You barely know them, and you have no idea if this fits into their lifestyle or their budget, and this is EXPENSIVE, even with a free room.

When this happened to me, I took it really personally, and it impacted the relationship. https://www.disboards.com/threads/it-finally-happened-they-flaked.3878000/

But now I see it as more complicated discussion of money and pride, and me slinging around my fancy Disney trips, and I'm less sympathetic to my view. I couldn't understand rejecting such a valuable gift, and they couldn't understand why I burdened them with such an expensive "gift."

They don't want to travel. They didn't respond. They didn't invite you on anything else. They don't have any other ideas. They don't want to do it.

And it sounds like you don't want to do it either.
You're rather astute. I would rather pass, but its all for my wife and kids. I'm not one to brag about things like this, but perhaps it came across that way when we offered them the free room.
 

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