Any USA entry updates?

[Plague]

because until kids can be vaccinated

Can't they be?
I know they are bottom of the priorities at present, but many vaccines are given to children.

 

[disneyholic family]

Can't they be?
I know they are bottom of the priorities at present, but many vaccines are given to children.

the two mRNA vaccines weren't tested on kids....
the pfizer one didn't even have many who were between 16 and 18, which is why 3 of the FDA advisors voted against it..
they wanted the pfizer vaccine to only be approved for 18 and up because of the lack of test subjects in that age group..
and none or almost none below that..
you can't vaccinate kids until you've tested them..
they're currently testing it on kids..
pfizer started first (i think in early december) and moderna now is as well..
once those tests are completed, then they can ask for approval for that age group..

 

[Plague]

the two mRNA vaccines weren't tested on kids....

Fair enough. The priority was/is of course the elderly in the first instance.
I just wondered if there was a medical/chemical reason it might be bad for immature bodies.

What about the AZ/Oxford vaccine? Same story I'd imagine.

 

[disneyholic family]

Fair enough. The priority was/is of course the elderly in the first instance.
I just wondered if there was a medical/chemical reason it might be bad for immature bodies.

What about the AZ/Oxford vaccine? Same story I'd imagine.

children were also excluded from the astrazeneca trials..
.

 

[Plague]

once that's done, hospitals will barely know covid exits.

This Reuters article is what makes me think it could be a long way from over:
UK scientists worried vaccines may not work on S.African coronavirus variant - ITV

And there will be more variants to come.

 

[MadScouser]

Hi Ho. Hi Ho, into Lockdown 3 I go

With a tesco slot and work from home

Hi ho, Hi ho ....

 

[gismo1554]

Hi Ho. Hi Ho, into Lockdown 3 I go

With a tesco slot and work from home

Hi ho, Hi ho ....

It was funny last night as I got loads of messages off people abroad saying OMG how are you coping and I had to point out Wales has been in lockdown for the last three weeks now anyway so for us it makes very little difference (unless you have kids I guess because those rules have changed). I think we all new this was coming lets just hope its third time lucky and this gets us through the worst of it.

 

[Welsh_Dragon]

I am in South Wales. I had to take my dog to the vet yesterday at 5 pm. I travelled along the main road into the City (A4232) and I was quite shocked at how busy ‘rush hour’ was as people left Cardiff and the Bay. It looked like ‘normal’ rush hour traffic to me, despite lockdown.
Meanwhile, daughter who works at a boarding school in Oxfordshire has just been (mass) tested by her employer and tested negative. The school was due to open today, some overseas borders were already on aeroplanes returning to U.K. by the time BoJo made his announcement and others have BTEC examinations this week, which seem to be going ahead. Some overseas boarders have not been able to return home since Christmas 2018.
And I have a student son, who is ‘chomping at the bit’ to return to Uni in England (he has already had Covid-19). Apparently, seven week lockdown in a student house with his 5 housemates, is a far more attractive option, than being stuck in lockdown with me.
And... I am feeling less optimistic about my March/April WDW trip. Maybe move to October (I enjoy HHNs at UOR) or wait until next Easter ?

 

[gismo1554]

I am in South Wales. I had to take my dog to the vet yesterday at 5 pm. I travelled along the main road into the City (A4232) and I was quite shocked at how busy ‘rush hour’ was as people left Cardiff and the Bay. It looked like ‘normal’ rush hour traffic to me, despite lockdown.
Meanwhile, daughter who works at a boarding school in Oxfordshire has just been (mass) tested by her employer and tested negative. The school was due to open today, some overseas borders were already on aeroplanes returning to U.K. by the time BoJo made his announcement and others have BTEC examinations this week, which seem to be going ahead. Some overseas boarders have not been able to return home since Christmas 2018.
And I have a student son, who is ‘chomping at the bit’ to return to Uni in England (he has already had Covid-19). Apparently, seven week lockdown in a student house with his 5 housemates, is a far more attractive option, than being stuck in lockdown with me.
And... I am feeling less optimistic about my March/April WDW trip. Maybe move to October (I enjoy HHNs at UOR) or wait until next Easter ?

It's so weird isn't it? I travelled to my parents the Wednesday after lockdown started as they are my support bubble and was shocked by how busy the roads were! I assumed it was the lead up to Christmas with everyone heading to shops for food etc but sounds like it isn't much better out Cardiff way. Newport itself (I live near the main roads into Newport) definitely seems quiet but I haven't been out anywhere since coming back from my parents on the 2nd (and I'd say Saturday wasn't as busy as usual).

I got really excited about holiday adverts reappearing on the TV but now I'm just not sure again. Its a weird one really as I do think once things settle it will all restart quickly. Top 4 tiers should be vaccinated (first jab) by mid Feb so things should then start to improve. My Dads in that tier so I'm hoping he soon gets his call up as he's been pretty much permanently furloughed since last March and is chomping at the bit to return (72 and an aircraft engineer who loves his job so much he doesn't want to retire). We have an April Med cruise booked and I really don't know how likely it is or anything.

 

[Plague]

I travelled along the main road into the City (A4232) and I was quite shocked at how busy ‘rush hour’ was as people left Cardiff and the Bay. It looked like ‘normal’ rush hour traffic to me, despite lockdown.

Lockdown is being used in such an arbitrary way now that it's pretty meaningless. There are so many exceptions - shopping, work, exercise - that it best translates as 'stay home unless you need to go out'.
The real problem is that people are still socialising without understanding that 'loose talk' now probably costs more lives than during the war.

 

[Plague]

Top 4 tiers should be vaccinated (first jab) by mid Feb so things should then start to improve.

Apparently they still don't know if the vaccines stop (most people) catching Covid19, or just stops them becoming ill. The latter will obviously be good for hospitals immediately, but it would also mean that as restrictions are eased you have a lot of asymptomatic carriers. That would spike infections across the board and you'd then get a big increase in Covid19 among the younger population with a corresponding uptick in their hospitalization numbers. Hopefully not enough to overload, but it would increase the numbers of younger (say <50) deaths and long term illness quite a bit until they are all vaccinated - apart from those who don't or can't be.

Let's hope the vaccines actually stop you getting or transmitting it.

 

[disneyholic family]

meanwhile, in los angeles, it seems pretty bad

https://abc7news.com/los-angeles-hospitals-la-hospital-waiting-times-covid-19-coronavirus/9363901/

 

[disneyholic family]

Lockdown is being used in such an arbitrary way now that it's pretty meaningless. There are so many exceptions - shopping, work, exercise - that it best translates as 'stay home unless you need to go out'.
The real problem is that people are still socialising without understanding that 'loose talk' now probably costs more lives than during the war.

we have the same problem....
the only thing that has strengthened the current lockdown is the schools here are closed now for 2 weeks...
but people are so much out and about..
the thing is, in the first lockdown, at the very beginning of corona, people were terrified of catching it...
so it wasn't difficult to convince them to stay home..
no one wanted to go out....
instead they ordered anything they needed and when it arrived, they washed their groceries like germophobes..
but as the months passed, and people realized that really it's more of a danger to those of us over 60, they didn't have to be quite so careful.
Even people like me, at higher risk, ventured out, with masks and social distancing..
so to tell them now that they need to go back inside and lockdown is difficult when they're no longer afraid of the disease...
.

 

[jackieleanne]

Just seen on Blog Mickey that the US is to require the negative covid test from the 26th of January. I wonder if that means the ban will be lifted and you just need to produce the negative test. Finally movement of some sort.

 

[Ellie Webbs]

Tui have emailed to cancel our april 21st trip, no conversation or attempt to talk they have just cut the booking. Interesting...
Can't say I'm disappointed at this rate though, for the money and the risk it wasnt the holiday we wanted.

 

[rosieposie3]

Tui have emailed to cancel our april 21st trip, no conversation or attempt to talk they have just cut the booking. Interesting...
Can't say I'm disappointed at this rate though, for the money and the risk it wasnt the holiday we wanted.

We're booked for 27th April with BA but haven't heard anything about cancelling. To be honest if we're allowed fly I'd be happy enough to go even with the added restrictions like masks and having to get a test.

 

[nursejackie]

Just seen on Blog Mickey that the US is to require the negative covid test from the 26th of January. I wonder if that means the ban will be lifted and you just need to produce the negative test. Finally movement of some sort.

I checked the CDC website and it's primarily about US citizens returning from overseas travel needing a negative test. We are still on the prohibited list for entry to the US at the moment (unless under certain conditions e.g. returning citizen etc). I'm holding out for August 2021 but my hopes are fading week by week.

 

[Ronaldo17]

We're still planning on late September 2021at the earliest.

 

[tinkerbell1991]

As someone else has posted below, I believe the current negative test requirement is for America citizens to return from the UK or absolute, essential business travel.
I'd like to believe that over the next couple of months, this will begin to get discussed or how best to manage the negative test situation as earlier this week it said a healthcare or gp letter (UK based) was required to take to the airport to say you were negative which I think the majority of the time at the moment it's just via text that you get this information.
It can only get better ... Well, that's what I keep telling myself anyway.
In all seriousness though, I honestly do believe it will start to get looked at soon

 

[jackieleanne]

As someone else has posted below, I believe the current negative test requirement is for America citizens to return from the UK or absolute, essential business travel.
I'd like to believe that over the next couple of months, this will begin to get discussed or how best to manage the negative test situation as earlier this week it said a healthcare or gp letter (UK based) was required to take to the airport to say you were negative which I think the majority of the time at the moment it's just via text that you get this information.
It can only get better ... Well, that's what I keep telling myself anyway.
In all seriousness though, I honestly do believe it will start to get looked at soon

Me too I'm at least hoping we will get a clue over the coming weeks/month whether it is going to be a yes or a no at least. It's the uncertainty that's so frustrating.