They are already there. Rack rate for April 2018 for both Pop standard and AoA LM rooms is over $200. LM rooms won't be eligible for a rate discount. If the rates are that ugly before the gondolas are done, just wait until after.The difference there is those aren't technically moderates.
I don't know about $300 in their cases...but the "straight shot" car to mgm with Star Wars just shot those into the $200 range.
They are already there. Rack rate for April 2018 for both Pop standard and AoA LM rooms is over $200. LM rooms won't be eligible for a rate discount. If the rates are that ugly before the gondolas are done, just wait until after.
With the laws of supply and demand that everyone loves to dig up, its a good move by WDW in the sense that you take 200 or whatever rooms out of mod supply (CBR and CSR), which will "increase" demand now. Voila! $220 goes to $275 just using the law...
It's not meant to be a draw, it's meant to justify higher prices for hotel rooms / DVC points at the resorts it services.
Personally any transportation that gets out of the jammed packed buses make us happy. We tend to stay BLT the most because we don't have to bus to as many places. We aren't beach club or boardwalk people, least favorite resorts for us. So this new one we are so excited for. Its the first time since purchasing BLT we have even considered adding on at another resort.
Speaking of bus service....I see this a lot and I have to ask: isn't this completely counter intuitive?
And have you ever bused in and out of Caribbean? I can tell you when they did the gps grid setup (Magic on Demand)...Caribbean was consistently the worst as far as transit times and service lags...a lot of that was the lights getting to and from and the loop. You're inheriting that problem with this "new" place.
So you're getting the cars to mgm and the back of Epcot...but you're not into boardwalk and beach club...where you can walk. Something isn't computing...
Personally any transportation that gets out of the jammed packed buses make us happy. We tend to stay BLT the most because we don't have to bus to as many places. We aren't beach club or boardwalk people, least favorite resorts for us. So this new one we are so excited for. Its the first time since purchasing BLT we have even considered adding on at another resort.
Speaking of bus service....
Is this new resort going to have dedicated buses, or will they get to be another stop on the CBR loop?
Either way could be an issue. Those seven bus stops at CBR are not fun. And as you pointed out, CBR has many bus issues. But if they have dedicated buses, what stops CBR folks- the ones who are close-from heading over for RR buses?
Disney's first resort electric fence?
I'm sure they'll spin "dedicated" buses...but they will never commit to it.
Buses are a straight line item loss and they will change/rig/ modify them at any point as they see fit.
A bus that has 11 people on it in slow economic times will be combined/rerouted. Have no doubt.
At one point...grand Floridian buses were shared with wilderness lodge. Just saying.
I cant wait to purchase another 300 points (direct ) at this location. My wife and I already have the Poly as our MK home resort, would love another in the Epcot area. We bout into OKW when it was just dirt and a promise, I trust Disney. Its funny all the details folks have made up in their head based on sketch art. At the end of the day if you don't like it, just dont buy.
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But what about the jam packed monorail? When I was there a couple of weeks ago I left MK to do a resort tour/park break. The monorail was exceptionally slow- and absolutely packed. Had to wait a while for monorail to come. Had to wait a while for it to unload. Got on and had to stand every time I rode it. Between resorts it stopped every time "waiting for traffic to clear up ahead."
Now I still like the monorail. It is cool. But it's not as if you just jump on the monorail and shoot over to MK or EPCOT. It has some of the same issues as the buses. And sometimes it closes completely (we got stuck once for a while at GF after dinner because the monorail was completely down and the boats had stopped running).
What if the new gondolas are the same way? Crowds of people, long waits, packed gondolas, and technical issues.
It sounds great to be able to just quickly hop on the gondola and float over to Epcot or HS. I hope it works that way. But it might not.
I'm not really shocked. I love the lodge and the feel it has, but is it really worth what they're charging per point? (Honest question as I don't know what the rate is). The fact is people wanna own on the monorail and Disney sorta realized that location is used up for dvc in the foreseeable futureHow telling is it that the Poly (second only to the Grand in terms of "luxury") is outselling Copper Creek 3:1? Some part of this is probably due to the fact that the Poly has such a strong following (but then ago, so does the Lodge), but also, informed buyers can purchase Boulder Ridge (aka original WL) via resale at a fraction of the cost and receive the same amenities. Having said that, I would argue that most DVC buyers aren't even aware that the resale market exists to begin with, so it can't be moving the needle that much. Long story short, if they're having a tough time selling Copper Creek, which is a legitimate deluxe in every sense of the word, they better have some tricks up their sleeves to pawn off Riveria Royale on the masses...
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Just back from BLT, the Contemporary and Wilderness Lodge still share AK, Springs, and HS busses, both day and night. It's always intrigued me that the deluxes share buses.I think in the day some of the loop resorts still share.
I'm not really shocked. I love the lodge and the feel it has, but is it really worth what they're charging per point? (Honest question as I don't know what the rate is). The fact is people wanna own on the monorail and Disney sorta realized that location is used up for dvc in the foreseeable future
Don't disagree, I just feel the portion highlighted in Bold will be an even bigger question when it's tied to a moderate resort.
Just back from BLT, the Contemporary and Wilderness Lodge still share AK, Springs, and HS busses, both day and night. It's always intrigued me that the deluxes share buses.
Just back from BLT, the Contemporary and Wilderness Lodge still share AK, Springs, and HS busses, both day and night. It's always intrigued me that the deluxes share buses.
Don't disagree, I just feel the portion highlighted in Bold will be an even bigger question when it's tied to a moderate resort.