May 2nd, 2023 - DVC The Villas @ Disneyland Hotel

[edudansil]

Now we gotta find out about parking

My guide confirmed that oweners will not have to pay for parking.

 

[pkrieger2287]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1653343274784964609

 

[princesscinderella]

I just emailed my guide . We are getting two 80 point contracts. That way all my kids will get an 80 pt DL DVC contract since we already have a 80 pt VGC.

 

[pkrieger2287]

I’m not blown away or surprised by the incentives - The only thing that kinda makes me chuckle is that first $4 per point drop.

 

[Kidguile]

I’m not blown away or surprised by the incentives - The only thing that kinda makes me chuckle is that first $4 per point drop.

DVC is making full rate with anybody adding on at 124 points or less at $230 with no incentives at these point levels.

At 125 points - VDH would be $226 vs $207 Aulani $212 Riviera $209 VGF. So another premium.

Now this is where it gets interesting - at 150+ points, it appears to be a big incentive at $20 vs the others but it’s not. $210 VDH $204 Aulani $210 Riviera $207 VGF. At this point, it’s equivalent to Riviera! And only a few bucks more than the other 2.

At 175, $209 VDH $199 Aulani $208 Riviera $204 VGF.

At 200, $208 VDH $191 Aulani $201 Riviera $197 VGF.

At 250, $207 VDH $188 Aulani $200 Riviera $195 VGF.

 

[Dodgerburt8]

DVC is making full rate with anybody adding on at 124 points or less at $230 with no incentives at these point levels.

At 125 points - VDH would be $226 vs $207 Aulani $212 Riviera $209 VGF. So another premium.

Now this is where it gets interesting - at 150+ points, it appears to be a big incentive at $20 vs the others but it’s not. $210 VDH $204 Aulani $210 Riviera $207 VGF. At this point, it’s equivalent to Riviera! And only a few bucks more than the other 2.

At 175, $209 VDH $199 Aulani $208 Riviera $204 VGF.

At 200, $208 VDH $191 Aulani $201 Riviera $197 VGF.

At 250, $207 VDH $188 Aulani $200 Riviera $195 VGF.

Interesting that at 200 point level, incentives at Florida properties jump up, whereas this jump is at 150 for VDH.

 

[Sandisw]

The interesting piece is that the jump to $20/pt may make someone move to the 150 and then be eligible for membership extras, vs just doing less.

 

[princesscinderella]

The interesting piece is that the jump to $20/pt may make someone move to the 150 and then be eligible for membership extras, vs just doing less.

I definitely think this is Disney’s strategy, especially since west coast didn’t have a lot of perks before but now it’s got the new lounge!

 

[Epcot Forever Forever]

The interesting piece is that the jump to $20/pt may make someone move to the 150 and then be eligible for membership extras, vs just doing less.

The difference between 100 and 150 is still $8500 or $170/point and ME isn’t worth almost anything at Disneyland so I’m not sure that bait will catch many fish.

 

[Sandisw]

The difference between 100 and 150 is still $8500 or $170/point and ME isn’t worth almost anything at Disneyland so I’m not sure that bait will catch many fish.

For those that want to buy to use at both places, it might….granted VDH is more local but it still may be enough for someone to make that jump.

 

[take36]

The interesting piece is that the jump to $20/pt may make someone move to the 150 and then be eligible for membership extras, vs just doing less.

Has me thinking at 150 points with the discounts even though I cannot justify the extra points, though extra points is always a good problem to have right?

 

[Dodgerburt8]

For those that want to buy to use at both places, it might….granted VDH is more local but it still may be enough for someone to make that jump.

That would seemingly make more sense for new members, but presumably 150 points would take many existing members well above the 150 point ME level. I would assume a lot of existing members already qualify, i.e. grandfathered at previous lower threshold

 

[paslaugh]

I guess that they just want to be selling VDH for years. One year ago 200 points at the Grand Floridian was $207pp less $21pp incentive for a net of $186pp.

Just one year later the only meaningful incentive on that entire chart is 150 points at $230pp less $20 for $210pp. Easy pass.

 

[Where'sPiglet?]

Has me thinking at 150 points with the discounts even though I cannot justify the extra points, though extra points is always a good problem to have right?

I'd say it depends! I bumped up what I was originally considering buying in order to have a small cushion.

It's funny - for me, the $20 off per point is very tempting, but then seeing it as $3000 overall off is not.

I was going to only buy 50 points, then decided 75 was a better number for me, given the points chart. I was briefly tempted to bump it up to get the per point discount, because who doesn't like a sale?! But then I realized that, for me, it would cost substantially more than the savings, because I'd have to end up financing. For 75 points, I can float it on 0% credit cards, but for 150 points, I'd need to finance - at 8.99%!

 

[take36]

That would seemingly make more sense for new members, but presumably 150 points would take many existing members well above the 150 point ME level. I would assume a lot of existing members already qualify, i.e. grandfathered at previous lower threshold

New member incentives usually a bit less the current owners right?

 

[nlenguyen]

My guide confirmed that oweners will not have to pay for parking.

This is the best news from today. $20pp is good but why nothing better after that?

 

[nlenguyen]

Buying more than 150 at this point is not good savings so I see this on sale for many years

 

[paslaugh]

Buying more than 150 at this point is not good savings so I see this on sale for many years

Especially when you consider that the 150 point incentive brings you to $210pp which is higher than the base, pre-incentive price of $207pp at Grand Floridian just a year ago. With the TOT and high initial dues, I'm not even sure who this is for.

 

[we"reofftoneverland]

I was hoping to be tempted this morning but instead I’m just put off. They do realize that people are pretty disgusted with Disney right now? This pricing is like they are top of their game— and uh, you’re not Disney. You’re pretty much in the trough within a countrywide tough. But sure, go ahead and ask peak pricing.

All that aside… let me get this straight (because I have not been following closely):

1. parking is included (crazy that this is even on the table— like they are “threatening” to take more away)

2. Dues are like $8/$9 per point

3. You have to pay a tax if you stay there like Aulani regardless of whether you own or not

 

[Epcot Forever Forever]

That would seemingly make more sense for new members, but presumably 150 points would take many existing members well above the 150 point ME level. I would assume a lot of existing members already qualify, i.e. grandfathered at previous lower threshold

New member incentives usually a bit less the current owners right?

There are no new member incentives right now. There won’t be until May 30 when it goes on sale. If you own *any* points - no matter how few, no matter how or when you bought them - you qualify for this presale and these incentives.

The new member offering starting 5/30 may not include an incentive at all; my guess is that it will but it will be less than $10 at 150 points.