I do not want to risk a filter violation so I will not list the name/address, overall they include the 2 largest sites, this forum's sponsor and 2 smaller re sellers that I can reasonably time or sequence date their posting. The compiling site appears to be attached to one of the larger site
As a resale owner, I'd be happy to accept the full package of benefits/perks. But I'd be shocked if they provide all perks to resale purchasers. That would remove a substantial incentive for buying direct. They can exercise ROFR to re-acquire contracts at resale prices and immediately mark them up to direct pricing. But unless they ROFR everything and the only way for new owners to purchase is direct, they would lose a lot of direct sales from people who are only willing to pay a hefty premium to obtain those perks.
I agree. This would definitely hurt their ability to sell direct. I can't see any logical reason for them doing that.
Oh, ok. I wasn't really sure about AKL pricing.
Back in 2016, you could get AKV for $85 to $95/point, sometimes with a fully loaded contract with 3 years of points in it.
Based on the user name I'm going to guess that they are getting the data from books.bookwormde - where are you getting this data ?
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A smart strategy when you are predicting a decline in prices is to price today based on what you think prices are going to be in six months. Because in six months when everyone is feeling the pinch, that is going to cause prices to be lower than what we are predicting them to be in six months. Simply put, this is a glimpse into our future and a sign of where things are moving.
I think you are saying things that might not be entirely accurate. Sure, Disney is getting hurt by the park closures which could theoretically extend through the summer and into the fall. However, they are a more diversified company than they ever have been. Additionally, they have about six billion dollars of cash on hand and just raised another seven billion dollars in debt. This is not something you do if you think you're going to be closed for two months. They have positioned themselves for multiple scenarios far worse than what we are seeing now. I think that the worst-case scenario for Disney is that they are not profitable for a few years as they dig their way out of this. There are worse things. And while possible, I think that acquisition, bailout, or bankruptcy are outside the range of likely outcomes.
You ready for this? Back in 2012 I passed on an AKV contract with three years worth of points at $63 per point because I didn't want to pay more than $60.
Wasn't the new debt they raised to replace debt that was coming due?Based on the user name I'm going to guess that they are getting the data from books.
A smart strategy when you are predicting a decline in prices is to price today based on what you think prices are going to be in six months. Because in six months when everyone is feeling the pinch, that is going to cause prices to be lower than what we are predicting them to be in six months. Simply put, this is a glimpse into our future and a sign of where things are moving.
I think you are saying things that might not be entirely accurate. Sure, Disney is getting hurt by the park closures which could theoretically extend through the summer and into the fall. However, they are a more diversified company than they ever have been. Additionally, they have about six billion dollars of cash on hand and just raised another seven billion dollars in debt. This is not something you do if you think you're going to be closed for two months. They have positioned themselves for multiple scenarios far worse than what we are seeing now. I think that the worst-case scenario for Disney is that they are not profitable for a few years as they dig their way out of this. There are worse things. And while possible, I think that acquisition, bailout, or bankruptcy are outside the range of likely outcomes.
basically. Guess it depends on how you look at it. They could use all the money they are not paying contractors for all the work they not doing to pay debt, then use the new capital to pay them when work starts up - just an example - but its really a bookkeeping and semantic argument. Tomato - Tom-ah-to
To put this in perspective; I pined over a few contracts as recently as 2013-2015, even saw an SSR contract for ~$65/Point that I really though about, but at that time I was unable to make the purchase (based on doing cash only). I finally got the cash to pull the trigger this February, at what I thought was a really good price ($89/Point), but who knows if maybe the $65/Point will be back in the near future ?? No regrets - (I'm grateful that I have the $$ now to do it) I just want to be able to use them, and can't wait for WDW to be open again!You ready for this? Back in 2012 I passed on an AKV contract with three years worth of points at $63 per point because I didn't want to pay more than $60.
