DVC Snobs

[Dean]

SSR is huge over 1,000 rooms and is by far the largest resort. They have more rooms than The Grand Floridian, Bay Lake Tower and The Poly combined. So when they built this resort it added a lot of people to DVC. Some people want to be in an elite club.

Not only that, a single 2 BR at SSR for a year likely has around as many points trying to reserve at the 7 month window than the entire VGF resort.

 

[Spartan86]

Sorry to be part of the problem , but yeah SSR has 14 million+ points to VGF’s 2.5 million for example. With that said, we do book SSR sometimes. I promise!

 

[Ben E N]

Example...... You buy SSR and try to book Poly or VGF at 8am of the 7 month window instead of buying at Poly or VGF.

I think all is fair at 7 months myself, but I suppose I can see others being upset by it, especially when places like DisneyTouristBlog lay it out as the best way to own Dvc.

 

[ELMC]

Sorry to be part of the problem , but yeah SSR has 14 million+ points to VGF’s 2.5 million for example. With that said, we do book SSR sometimes. I promise!

I think all is fair at 7 months myself, but I suppose I can see others being upset by it, especially when places like DisneyTouristBlog lay it out as the best way to own Dvc.

I understand the pressure that SSR puts on the DVC system as a whole. But let's not forget that there is a giant workaround...the 11 month booking window. I think it is difficult to grow the DVC network while at the same time keeping all resorts on par with each other. There's always going to be a hierarchy, and if SSR didn't exist some other resort would be the low man on the totem pole. But as an owner of BLT and BWV, I have nobody to blame but myself if I can't stay at my home resort because I didn't take advantage of the home resort booking priority.

 

[ELMC]

I think all is fair at 7 months myself, but I suppose I can see others being upset by it, especially when places like DisneyTouristBlog lay it out as the best way to own Dvc.

I agree that it possibly is the best way to own DVC. You will save more money, no doubt about it. But a BWV or BCV owner will beat you out for a room during Food and Wine Festival every time. It's all about priorities and what is most important to you. It's very possible for both sides to win...

 

[bakerworld]

Old $ vs New $

 

[Wakey]

It’s just using your head and being savvy buying SSR if it suits you. I did tons of research before buying, and worked out with a 1 bed in summer booking pattern, I’d be mad to buy anywhere else. So far the research has proven correct. Being a savvy buyer isn’t a sign of a lower class person, those who have earns their money and done well, tend not to throw it away.

 

[Ben E N]

I understand the pressure that SSR puts on the DVC system as a whole. But let's not forget that there is a giant workaround...the 11 month booking window. I think it is difficult to grow the DVC network while at the same time keeping all resorts on par with each other. There's always going to be a hierarchy, and if SSR didn't exist some other resort would be the low man on the totem pole. But as an owner of BLT and BWV, I have nobody to blame but myself if I can't stay at my home resort because I didn't take advantage of the home resort booking priority.

Bought into BLT with the exact same reasoning as you. Poly at 7 months? Cool! Stuck at BLT? Still cool!

 

[Louis morrell]

Those people probably live in a trailer park ... Old $ = 12 Ft vs New $ = double-wide

What? You are going to have to explain plain what you meant by that.

 

[Louis morrell]

It’s just using your head and being savvy buying SSR if it suits you. I did tons of research before buying, and worked out with a 1 bed in summer booking pattern, I’d be mad to buy anywhere else. So far the research has proven correct. Being a savvy buyer isn’t a sign of a lower class person, those who have earns their money and done well, tend not to throw it away.

Exactl this. Well put.

 

[bakerworld]

Joke

 

[ziravan]

 

[lovethesun12]

My guess is that because it’s the largest DVC resort & took a long time to finally finish sales. Reducing the point size minimums of initial contracts coupled with so many points sold @ SSR substantially increased the number of owners & points and likely increased competition for non SSR resorts at 7 months because many people chose SSR planning to stay elsewhere by switching at 7 months. However, I believe Dean owns other time shares and his perspective is through a broader lens than some one like me who’s only timeshare is DVC so he may mean something entirely different.
Oops, looks like Dean was responding while I was typing - I am the world’s slowest hunt and peck typist.

Disclaimer: I have never stayed at Saratoga Springs.

At most deluxes, you have something extra (walking distance from parks, boats to parks, animals, monorail; often coupled with awesome dining). If you could get those things at moderates, people would book moderates instead.

At Saratoga Springs (and old key west), you can get the same "extra" (boat to disney springs) at POFQ and POR. POFQ and POR also have a good table service restaurant, great pools, and rooms with fun theming. Bussing at POFQ is awesome; we went during Easter and they were always half empty probably due to the small resort size.

For those reasons I would always book POFQ/POR over SS and OKW because the moderate is just as good. Maybe I'm missing something I'm sure since they are deluxe and $100 more/night than POFQ/POR, but maybe most other people that choose not to stay there are as well. To make them more popular, Disney would need to add an "extra".

 

[sndral]

Disclaimer: I have never stayed at Saratoga Springs.

At most deluxes, you have something extra (walking distance from parks, boats to parks, animals, monorail; often coupled with awesome dining). If you could get those things at moderates, people would book moderates instead.

At Saratoga Springs (and old key west), you can get the same "extra" (boat to disney springs) at POFQ and POR. POFQ and POR also have a good table service restaurant, great pools, and rooms with fun theming. Bussing at POFQ is awesome; we went during Easter and they were always half empty probably due to the small resort size.

For those reasons I would always book POFQ/POR over SS and OKW because the moderate is just as good. Maybe I'm missing something I'm sure since they are deluxe and $100 more/night than POFQ/POR, but maybe most other people that choose not to stay there are as well. To make them more popular, Disney would need to add an "extra".

Of all those resorts I’ve only stayed at POFQ once, many years ago. The really big differences IMO between moderate resorts and SSR/OKW are the balconies/patios which the moderates don’t have and the access to bigger villas, eg: the 1 br.s and up at the DVC resorts. The treehouses at SSR look pretty cool to me too.

 

[GrumpyInPhilly]

Of all those resorts I’ve only stayed at POFQ once, many years ago. The really big differences IMO between moderate resorts and SSR/OKW are the balconies/patios which the moderates don’t have and the access to bigger villas, eg: the 1 br.s and up at the DVC resorts. The treehouses at SSR look pretty cool to me too.

For the right mix of adults and kids they're great. We stayed in one a few years back and everyone loved it. Just make sure you have a car.

 

[kboo]

As someone whose feet swell on long flights, when I take them off it’s so uncomfortable to put them back on. Plus I can’t touch the floor with my whole foot if I don’t have shoes.

Definitely not a must for me!

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My feet swell sometimes too, which is why I usually wear flip flops, birkenstocks or other easy sandals on a plane, weather permitting. If I walk around, though, the shoes go back on. And for a long haul flight, you have to do some walking to keep your feet from swelling.

Me neither! It makes little sense to me to do so unless you also take them off in a restaurant when you eat, at every movie you go to, at any sporting event etc. I have no idea what makes a plane an ok public place to remove your shoes with the exception of a long over seas flight. Even on those I've done it exactly once and only for a very short time and I'm a person who spends most of my time at home in socks or barefoot. Not on a plane though.

Heh. Well, I do often slip my shoes off... so long as no one can see my feet under the table ... Most of my flights - especially work travel - are long haul 5+ hour flights - transcontinental or transoceanic. And most often, if in business class or higher, in one of the sleeper beds and/or redeye. I would prefer the previous seat's user take their shoes off before using the footrests!

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Ok that's just GROSS.

Perhaps I should clarify - kboo's shoes-off, on-plane etiquette:

1. If socks are being worn, they NEVER come off.
2. If shoes are off, the socked or bare feet NEVER - and I mean NEVER - leave the space near the floor where my feet are meant to be.
3. Feet are never, NEVER, NEVER placed on armrests or any parts of the seat in front of me.
4. Shoes (or plane slippers) put on immediately when leaving the seat area for any reason whatsoever.

Upshot of these rules, especially 1-3, means that no one should ever know if I have my shoes on or off.

 

[glamdring269]

There is actually a biological reason to take shoes off while on a plane at altitude on a long haul flight. The same is definitely not true for a restaurant.

As long as you follow the rules kboo laid out you're doing it right. Though personally I'd never travel without socks so don't need to worry about that part.

*edit*
I forgot to mention. Of all of the odors that I'm concerned with on a plane, the smell of someone's foot is pretty low on the list...

 

[LAX]

There is actually a biological reason to take shoes off while on a plane at altitude on a long haul flight. The same is definitely not true for a restaurant.

As long as you follow the rules kboo laid out you're doing it right. Though personally I'd never travel without socks so don't need to worry about that part.

*edit*
I forgot to mention. Of all of the odors that I'm concerned with on a plane, the smell of someone's foot is pretty low on the list...

What biological reason are you referring to? Just curious as I have never taken my shoes off on a plane (Granted I have never flown on premium class where slippers are provided).

LAX

 

[glamdring269]

What biological reason are you referring to? Just curious as I have never taken my shoes off on a plane (Granted I have never flown on premium class where slippers are provided).

LAX

Feet can swell. Granted this can also be countered by getting up and walking around but if you ever fly on a long fight, say east cost to Japan, you’re definitely not going to be up frequently enough to completely avoid it. Airlines know people do this as well otherwise they wouldn’t supply socks and slippers to folks sitting in business/first class.

 

[CarolMN]

We seem to be off topic - or at least enough to move this thread over to Mouse.

(In that spirit), those of you who have feet that swell during long flights might consider compression socks. I can personally testify that they make a HUGE difference.