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Anybody else feel like this?

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Yes. My kids are amped for our May trip to Disneyland. Rescheduling means my 2 year old is probably 3 and my hotel has since increased its points beyond the number i have, so it also means paying cash for a night at least (we’ll do it, but ugh).


Grand scheme of things it’s small. But to my kids it’s everything. And it’s gonna break their little hearts.
 
Are you implying that none of the parks reopen until Food & Wine? Otherwise I could see the other parks reopen but Epcot remain closed until Food & Wine. People have suggested that in its current state it's a seasonal park; this would be Disney's excuse to make it one.

If the parks really are all closed until Food & Wine then (barring a government bailout) TWDC will likely be in Chapter 11 so what reopens won't be up to them, it will be up to the bankruptcy judge.
I read through Disney’s last 10-K the other day. They have $94bn in equity, giving them a ton of leeway to issue additional bonds or increase working capital well before they go Chapter 11. My belief is that banks/investors will view Disney bonds as safe to back. They are also VERY good at leveraging their IP to create revenue streams. AND they could sell non-core businesses like cable networks or even ABC to raise cash if need be. I’m not offering investment advice, but as a Disney fan, I wouldn’t worry about them going Chapter 11.
 
If the parks really are all closed until Food & Wine then (barring a government bailout) TWDC will likely be in Chapter 11 so what reopens won't be up to them, it will be up to the bankruptcy judge.
I read through Disney’s last 10-K the other day. They have $94bn in equity, giving them a ton of leeway to issue additional bonds or increase working capital well before they go Chapter 11. My belief is that banks/investors will view Disney bonds as safe to back. They are also VERY good at leveraging their IP to create revenue streams. AND they could sell non-core businesses like cable networks or even ABC to raise cash if need be. I’m not offering investment advice, but as a Disney fan, I wouldn’t worry about them going Chapter 11.
Just a touch more color: TOTAL theme parks and resorts expenses last year were $17bn. Total Studio expenses were $8bn. Even if they had the same operating costs while closed (and they don’t), they could be closed for several years before Disney ran out of assets to borrow against.
 
Just a touch more color: TOTAL theme parks and resorts expenses last year were $17bn. Total Studio expenses were $8bn. Even if they had the same operating costs while closed (and they don’t), they could be closed for several years before Disney ran out of assets to borrow against.
Borrowing more money is the last thing they want to do, I think. I think they will cut expenses to stretch out their cash until revenue streams come back on line.
 
Of course, I did come home and get laid off from my job after about 5 hours back in. Not entirely surprised and had been preparing for the eventuality, but was maybe a few months earlier than anticipated. With the Covid-19 thing my industry has taken a real hammering, so I think it was a blessing in disguise.

so sorry to hear this...
 
For people who think disney world might open in next few weeks. This is great britain estimate depending what restrictions they do. USA would be in similar time line. The graph is ICU beds per 100k. Italy would be on the part of extreme need compared to beds. China is on the way down. As you can see in the graph estimates still a month away till it hits fan. 2 months or so after that should be on the improve
 

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What does that mean? That they can't give estimates of how much money they will make in the future? Or that they won't even have certain aspects of company in future?
It is known in the investment community as an 8K filing. An 8K filing is required by the SEC whenever a public company has a significant change in operating conditions.

Don't read anything more into the filing, its pretty much required for all public companies at this point.
 
It is known in the investment community as an 8K filing. An 8K filing is required by the SEC whenever a public company has a significant change in operating conditions.

Don't read anything more into the filing, its pretty much required for all public companies at this point.

Thanks! :)
 
What does that mean? That they can't give estimates of how much money they will make in the future? Or that they won't even have certain aspects of company in future?
It is known in the investment community as an 8K filing. An 8K filing is required by the SEC whenever a public company has a significant change in operating conditions.

Don't read anything more into the filing, its pretty much required for all public companies at this point.

yeah, it definitely doesn't mean anything concrete, but I find lines like "Our businesses could also be impacted should the disruptions from COVID-19 lead to changes in consumer behavior” to be interesting as shows Disney is thinking about long term impacts and will respond in kind ... just, to me, another sign that we need to think of this in much longer terms than like the parks opening back up on April 1st and things going right back to "normal" or anything remotely like that
 
What does that mean? That they can't give estimates of how much money they will make in the future? Or that they won't even have certain aspects of company in future?
There is a worst case scenario for Disney -- they have to pretty much abandon or sell the parks. They MAY not have the money to get them back up and running. I pray we don't see that.

Either way . .the longer this lasts .. the more these companies will have to make TOUGH decisions to stay afloat.
The longer this lasts, the more societal norms will change.

Will people want to travel around the world (or to very crowded places like WDW) with the next new virus potentially around the corner? It's not hard to imagine the tourist industry is going to be hit hard by this, moreso than 9/11. Life went on after a few days after 9/11 .. I remember going to the first NFL game shortly after. It helped the country heal a bit. Here life is STOPPING .. and like a lot of things once something stops, it is hard to get it moving again.

Hopefully Disney can figure out how to hold things together and change to the new norms. I am sure they will.
 
Agreed, a several month quaratine would lead to way more lost lives because of economic destruction. My best guess is a 3-4 week quaratine, and a 1-2 month gradual return to a new normalcy.
Any source on this, or just pure speculation?
 

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