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The vast majority of people recover from this thing. And, with the therapeutics that are being used to good effect now, even more are doing so. There may NEVER be a true vaccine - there isn't really a flu vaccine, after all (the flu shot isn't a true vaccine), nor one for another type of coronavirus - the common cold. Do we all just sit around and let businesses go under left and right for something that isn't affecting anywhere near as many as were affected by H1N1 (which certainly didn't see anything like this level of response) and for which the longed-for outcome of a vaccine may never become reality?

At some point, this has got to stop.
 
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/california-governor-says-no-mass-202207536.html
“The prospect of mass gatherings is negligible at best until we get to herd immunity and we get to a vaccine,” Newsom said. “So large-scale events that bring in hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of strangers, all together across every conceivable difference, health and otherwise, is not in the cards based upon our current guidelines and current expectations.”
Newsom acknowledged that expectations can change, and he resisted setting any sort of timeline.
But, he added, “When you suggest June, July, August, it is unlikely.”



:( I suppose things could change and I hope this is wrong, but if you're making plans now, you might want to take this into consideration.
 
The vast majority of people recover from this thing. And, with the therapeutics that are being used to good effect now, even more are doing so. There may NEVER be a true vaccine - there isn't really a flu vaccine, after all (the flu shot isn't a true vaccine), nor one for another type of coronavirus - the common cold. Do we all just sit around and let businesses go under left and right for something that isn't affecting anywhere near as many as were affected by H1N1 (which certainly didn't see anything like this level of response) and for which the longed-for outcome of a vaccine may never become reality?

At some point, this has got to stop.
then what do you propose? let everyone roam free like back in january-february?
 
I will guess May-June for Constructions workers
I say July 4th for Disneyland.

Feels like they will take an american celebration to open everything back up.
 
My husband, an Iraq war veteran who has lived through some really terrifying events, is terrified of the stay home order being lifted too soon. He is an essential worker that often works in hospitals and lives in fear of bringing the virus home to myself and our daughter who has epilepsy. He spent all last weekend installing an outdoor shower at our house so he can come home, undress, and shower before coming inside.

Lifting the stay home order too soon will not only put serious strain on our healthcare systems, but also strain other essential industries that support our healthcare systems and serve the essential needs of citizens.

I am sure everyone is concerned about the economic implications of the economy being shut down for a long period of time. But perhaps we can also be sensitive to the people who are risking their health and the health of their loved ones to support the essential infrastructure of our country. Opening up the economy too soon will increase their risk and would be a disservice to the sacrifices they are already making.
 
The vast majority of people recover from this thing. And, with the therapeutics that are being used to good effect now, even more are doing so. There may NEVER be a true vaccine - there isn't really a flu vaccine, after all (the flu shot isn't a true vaccine), nor one for another type of coronavirus - the common cold. Do we all just sit around and let businesses go under left and right for something that isn't affecting anywhere near as many as were affected by H1N1 (which certainly didn't see anything like this level of response) and for which the longed-for outcome of a vaccine may never become reality?

At some point, this has got to stop.
It will. Eventually herd immunity will take over even without a vaccine, which is what happened to H1N1 and the Spanish Flu. It took three years for herd immunity to knock out the Spanish Flu, but it did happen.

Our rescheduled March trip is now August 3-8. I've felt for a long time that that was not going to happen. I think I'm going to call Southwest and deal with my travel funds tomorrow. I'll see if Lansky's will issue a raincheck; they did that back in March that was good for up to 3 years which is when I rebooked for August with them. Cancel the hotel and that just leaves the park tickets, which I can apply to tickets at some day in the future. At this point, I'm thinking not sooner than 2022. I'm not going through this again. It's been a not fun ride.
 
The vast majority of people recover from this thing. And, with the therapeutics that are being used to good effect now, even more are doing so. There may NEVER be a true vaccine - there isn't really a flu vaccine, after all (the flu shot isn't a true vaccine), nor one for another type of coronavirus - the common cold. Do we all just sit around and let businesses go under left and right for something that isn't affecting anywhere near as many as were affected by H1N1 (which certainly didn't see anything like this level of response) and for which the longed-for outcome of a vaccine may never become reality?

At some point, this has got to stop.

The H1N1 pandemic started in April 2009 and officially ended in April 2010. Just over 12,000 people in the US died from it during that year.

COVID-19 has killed over 25,000 people in the US in the last 6 weeks.
 
The only bit of optimism I have is that Gov Newsom described the uniqueness of DL and theme parks in general in them being like nation-states, and omitted them in his original statements at the beginning of the crisis.

granted, it’s a different world now...but one size does not fit all, the drive will be there for any business (Disney included) to find a way to safely open.
 
Phew, the thread went down the rabbit hole again.

I think folks with trips coming up just have to prepare for the possibility of rescheduling. Book refundable options for everything and fingers crossed!

I think it will be awhile until we have any definite answers.
 
I got a letter from Disneyland Resort Annual Passport Program today. It just talks about extending the passes nothing about a refund. It even mentions passholders on the monthly payment program remaining on the current payment schedule and no other option. I’m out of state so paid in full. I wonder if they are changing their position or if they sent out an old letter?
Is there a date on the letter?
Here is the email I got from Disney on April 6th
3rd paragraph has an alternative option - "partial refund"
Dear Valued Annual Passholder,

This is a truly unprecedented time for all of us, and we want to thank you for your patience as we work through the many details related to the temporary closure of the theme parks. We recognize this may be a challenging time, so we wanted to share how we will assist our Annual Passholders.

Active Disneyland Resort Annual Passholders who have paid for their Passports in full will automatically have their Passport expiration date extended due to theme park closures to provide additional access opportunities at the end of the Passport term. The new expiration date will be reflected on the Annual Passholder’s Passport account prior to the reopening of the theme parks.

As an alternative, in lieu of an extension of their Passports, Passholders who have paid in full may choose to receive a partial refund for the theme park closure period. Information will be provided soon on how to choose this option.

Annual Passholders are some of our most loyal guests, and we stand ready to help during this incredibly uncertain time. If you have any questions, please contact Annual Passholder Member Services at (714) 781-7277. We do anticipate heavy call volume and appreciate your patience as we answer all inquiries.



Disneyland Resort Passholder


Disneyland Resort

 
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News kept rolling in today: no county fair; probably no state fair; no disneyland.....if we get our beaches open, that will be a saving grace for us here in SD.

We still have our Aulani for August and holding onto those for now. May actually extend it to two weeks if this continues and they keep the two week quarantine :)
 
I think going forward, no matter what trip I take, I am going to make sure to get refundable everything lol.

Seriously! Definitely was sweating those non-refundable plane tickets for summer until I got the airline email allowing me to cancel/get a flight credit. 😬

I can hear my dad’s ‘I told ya so’ lecture (pre-chaos) about booking refundable travel ringing in my ears now...
 
With all the talk of wanting the parks to open ASAP regardless of the status of the virus, I think it's important to take extra consideration for the health and well-being of cast member’s in the theoretical situation of an early park re-opening.

Our sad feelings and desires to go back to the parks won’t somehow influence the parks to open ASAP. It is as if we are hoping Disney (in the name of profit) will ignore the risks of the pandemic and open early, forcing all of the furloughed workers to come back and risk their lives and the lives of their families just so we can ride Space Mountain for the 1,000th time.

It’s easy for us to say we as guests will maintain distancing, stay vigilant, and “survive” because we think we are tougher, younger, smarter, etc. than a virus. But every cast member that sells us merch, serves us food, takes our photopass pictures, checks our AP at the gate, or cleans the bathrooms is subjected to endless streams of people who could be infected (with or without symptoms that a simple temperature check is not going to detect).

Is our fun and anxiousness to return to the parks worth even one person dying or spending weeks in the hospital? I would hope your answer to that question isn’t: “anyone who chooses to come back to work at Disneyland does so at their own risk and is taking their own chances”. I would hate to see a cast member who loves their job have to weigh the fear of a) coming back to work and risking getting the virus or b) risking getting fired because they didn’t show up to work out of fear of the virus.

It’s also interesting that a lot of people chastise Disney for being a money-hungry greedy company, yet in this situation we find Disney doing the right thing by putting public health and safety ahead of profits. But in this instance it seems some are expecting Disney to act like a greedy corporation and ignore the Governor’s guidelines just so people can get their Disney fix.

Everyone is suffering through this and it’s going to try our patience and cause personal and financial stresses that we’ve never even considered before. We will get through it and Disneyland will open again.

I CAN’T WAIT to go back. But I will.
 
It’s also interesting that a lot of people chastise Disney for being a money-hungry greedy company, yet in this situation we find Disney doing the right thing by putting public health and safety ahead of profits. But in this instance it seems some are expecting Disney to act like a greedy corporation and ignore the Governor’s guidelines just so people can get their Disney fix.

Well said. I've seen this sentiment a lot on different FB groups and Reddit groups I lurk on (another reason why I love the DIS- even when folks disagree, we can usually do it kindly...)- I thought the same thing. Disney is doing the right thing here and protecting their employees.
 
News kept rolling in today: no county fair; probably no state fair; no disneyland.....if we get our beaches open, that will be a saving grace for us here in SD.

We still have our Aulani for August and holding onto those for now. May actually extend it to two weeks if this continues and they keep the two week quarantine :)

Nooooooooo....no Del Mar Fair? I gotta put that up there with DL being closed. Oof.
 
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