Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[chicagoshannon]

When you reserve and it says pick a time, some thought it was going to be staggered entry. For WDW parks, the choice of time is simply the park hours,

So you can arrive and leave when you want, There are no limits to how long you are there.

seems kind of silly to even have a time there. Just gonna confuse people.

 

[Sandisw]

Just hang tight. It’s a little murky right now but I’m sure well before your trip they’ll have something figured out. I would call the 28th just in case. Also, you can always rent dvc points if you want to get a room sooner rather than later.

Gotta be honest...any one looking to rent needs to be sure they really understand it and non refundable can really mean that. Lots of unhappy renters right now who are losing money because they don’t want to go or don’t have tickets yet and can’t book and will be getting no money back at all.

 

[koszmok]

It sounds like they are not doing any room only bookings when it starts on June 28th.

That`s my understanding as well. Please confirm me it eventually must change
I mean there are AP holders and people with tickets / or people who only want to stay onsite and not going to the parks at all....Surely soon or later room only must be bookable?!

 

[Sandisw]

seems kind of silly to even have a time there. Just gonna confuse people.

I think it is because for DL they do have something different. So, it was a way to keep it consistent...at least that is what I believe,

The only confusing part is the speculation of what people think it means. There will be only one choice there.

 

[WonderlandisReality]

seems kind of silly to even have a time there. Just gonna confuse people.

They have already confused us. This is small potatoes

 

[A2DisneyMom]

Since we’re back to talking about rooms...

By my math, the rooms Disney is planning to have open (all DVC, except Jambo, but adding FW cabins) comes out to around 5,200, according to Touring Plans data https://touringplans.com/walt-disney-world/hotels/number-rooms

Let’s assume those resorts are 50% booked, on average, with dedicated reservations (not unreasonable given this is DVC with expiring points on the line/locked in rental reservations, etc.). That leaves roughly 2,500 rooms left, if you want to run those resorts at 100% capacity. WDW total rooms are estimated at about 35,000, or about 30,000 rooms after removing the DVC/FW rooms discussed above.

All told, you would need less than 10% of guests at non-DVC/FW rooms to want to keep their reservations and be transferred. Also, given DVC/FW availability has already been offered to many pre-6/22 guests, the current booking rate is probably much higher than 50%.

Personally, I just don’t see how the math works without either opening other resorts, or cancelling most non-DVC/FW guests. Honestly, I expect to hear of more resorts opening, including at least one value and mod. Those resorts are so massive, relative to Deluxe and DVC, that I just don’t see any long term viable solution without bringing some of them online.

 

[Sandisw]

That`s my understanding as well. Please confirm me it eventually must change
I mean there are AP holders and people with tickets / or people who only want to stay onsite and not going to the parks at all....Surely soon or later room only must be bookable?!

I definitely think it will change at some point. It seems to me they are trying to get a head start on 2021 Capacity as those that due purchase now...seem to need to pick park dates at the start.

I believe it’s why they are allowing those with room only already to upgrade and get tickets before they sell new packages

 

[OKWFan88]

On Facebook seems like a lot of AP's are looking to cancel their pass. Some because of the virus but a lot more because of the 3 day rule. Disney can't afford to alienate their AP base right now. If Ap's cancel who will go to the parks? They have a very short memory. AP's are who kept them afloat after 9/11.

I must have missed the 3 day rule for AP's... is that even if you have an Platinum AP and have Disney hotel reservation?

 

[CastAStone]

FWIW Tickets At Work still seems to be selling Platinum APs this morning. If that helps anyone.

 

[Welsh_Dragon]

I must have missed the 3 day rule for AP's... is that even if you have an Platinum AP and have Disney hotel reservation?

If you have a resort reservation, you can make park reservations for the length of your resort reservation, maybe with a limit of 14 days.

 

[SierraT]

I always book a package so I’m really hopeful I’ll be able to travel to the World before 2020 is over, especially after being cancelled twice already. Are there really that many rooms booked for the latter part of the year that they can’t open up for future bookings? The demand is amazing if so.

Guess we’ll know soon enough.

 

[Sandisw]

Since we’re back to talking about rooms...

By my math, the rooms Disney is planning to have open (all DVC, except Jambo, but adding FW cabins) comes out to around 5,200, according to Touring Plans data https://touringplans.com/walt-disney-world/hotels/number-rooms

Let’s assume those resorts are 50% booked, on average, with dedicated reservations (not unreasonable given this is DVC with expiring points on the line/locked in rental reservations, etc.). That leaves roughly 2,500 rooms left, if you want to run those resorts at 100% capacity. WDW total rooms are estimated at about 35,000, or about 30,000 rooms after removing the DVC/FW rooms discussed above.

All told, you would need less than 10% of guests at non-DVC/FW rooms to want to keep their reservations and be transferred. Also, given DVC/FW availability has already been offered to many pre-6/22 guests, the current booking rate is probably much higher than 50%.

Personally, I just don’t see how the math works without either opening other resorts, or cancelling most non-DVC/FW guests. Honestly, I expect to hear of more resorts opening, including at least one value and mod. Those resorts are so massive, relative to Deluxe and DVC, that I just don’t see any long term viable solution without bringing some of them online.

I think come fall, you are correct as that is DVCs busy time. For the next few months, it is crazy how things have opened up, Even the typical slower summer time which is booked a few months out is still wide open,

I think there are a lot of open DVC to still move people to in the next few months

 

[I_love_Cruising]

I'm sure this is a stupid question but

I have a package booked at Pop for November, if I go ahead and book park days on Monday, can I still cancel before my PIF date?

And if they move me to a different resort and I accept, does that change anything in terms of cancelling?

 

[koszmok]

I definitely think it will change at some point. It seems to me they are trying to get a head start on 2021 Capacity as those that due purchase now...seem to need to pick park dates at the start.

I believe it’s why they are allowing those with room only already to upgrade and get tickets before they sell new packages

Well I`m the other type I do have ticket with no room so far .
I know that right now the info said those with tickets only can reserve park from 28/06/20 and right now it says until 26/09/21 but I think it will change eventually. There will be a limit (60 day in advance or so for onsite guest with ticket and 30 day in advance with ticket only or so). But it would go against the "you will see the park availability before commit to buy your ticket" thing.

Chicken or egg ?

 

[Rxdr2013]

Was looking at Park Hours so I can get familiar with when what park is what hours for the picking come Monday. Noticed both water parks have 10am-8pm hours starting July 11 thru Aug 16 then Aug 17 it’s goes down to 10am-6 pm. Are we going some sort of Water Park announcement of being open?

maybe, the finally took out the h20 glow party they could have removed the park hours if they were not going to open. I would love a water park to be open during our trip! Atleast open 1!

 

[Bellex917]

I'm sure this is a stupid question but

I have a package booked at Pop for November, if I go ahead and book park days on Monday, can I still cancel before my PIF date?

And if they move me to a different resort and I accept, does that change anything in terms of cancelling?

I asked my TA this last night and she said the typical cancellation rules apply, so it shouldn't impact it. We are AoA in Nov as well... so not sure if we will be going, but I'm moving forward like we are.

 

[NashvilleMama]

I asked my TA this last night and she said the typical cancellation rules apply, so it shouldn't impact it. We are AoA in Nov as well... so not sure if we will be going, but I'm moving forward like we are.

Same boat here.....I'm actually SO bummed that we could get moved/upgraded. We were really excited to be staying at CBR and experiencing the skyliner, but it's sounding like the odds of that happening are slim to none.

 

[woody337]

Does anyone have any ideas of the probability of getting the park reservations you actually want if a guest is staying on property and gets priority on park booking? I have a 5 day pass starting July 18th and i'm concerned about park selections.

 

[Farro]

I always thought the RO reservation at the prior year rate was a placeholder and the price would adjust to the new rate once pricing was available...is that not the case? You actually keep the 2020 room rate for your 2021 reservation?

To answer- if you book room only for dates that packages arent out yet, mine was for May 2021, unless you make changes to dates or say, upgrade to a package when new rates released, you keep 2020 rates.

And its not highest rack rate of 2020. I'm paying the same rate for my dates as the 2020 dates.

This has been the case for two trips I've booked.

 

[hertamaniac]

Even weekday select are able to book AP previews?