CDC Notifies States, Large Cities To Prepare For Vaccine Distribution As Soon As Late October

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There's a lot of space between not trusting a brand new vaccine for a novel virus and being anti vaccine.

Vaccines have their places. Just don't force a new vaccine on people.
 
She referred to the flu vaccine as poison.


Yeah, I saw that.

We don't always get the flu shot here, though we did this year to help mitigate things and protect others with covid floating around out there.

We've got 3 in college and one of them has a fairly new autoimmune disease, so we all got the flu shot this year to help protect the one with the autoimmune disease, and with all 3 of them being in college around many people.

But, if all those factors were not in play, we are otherwise healthy and I might have foregone the flu shot this year, as we've done in the past to avoid the added chemicals and ingredients in the flu shot.

Unlike many people, we do get our nutrients tested at least once a year and take supplements specific to our needs and increase them based on season and feeling run down.

There are other ways to avoid the flu than shots.
 
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This is how it's going to go with antibody treatments, like most of the response to this pandemic has gone....in an uneven, ad hoc manner. And skewed favorably towards those with money and connections. It's very frustrating to see these drug companies produce hundreds of thousands, even over a million doses of what could be successful treatment for certain COVID patients, only to have it left to the states to try to distribute. These treatment needs to be distributed very early to COVID positive patients who are at a particularly high risk of a bad outcome. With our really poor testing and tracing record, it's not likely that this will help those most in need.

I read an article about a local man who survived COVID after 174 days in the hospital. He looked to be in his 50s, had a son in the photo...maybe 10 years old. The article didn't focus on him so much, as it did our local Congressman, who this family contacted on two occasions.....to get Remdesivir for this man, and also to get him convalescent plasma. The family credited the Congressman's phone calls to the right people as a life-saving intervention. It likely did save his life. The average person isn't getting that kind of assistance from their local congressman.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/20/health/covid-antibody-regeneron.html?searchResultPosition=3
 
This is how it's going to go with antibody treatments, like most of the response to this pandemic has gone....in an uneven, ad hoc manner. And skewed favorably towards those with money and connections. It's very frustrating to see these drug companies produce hundreds of thousands, even over a million doses of what could be successful treatment for certain COVID patients, only to have it left to the states to try to distribute. These treatment needs to be distributed very early to COVID positive patients who are at a particularly high risk of a bad outcome. With our really poor testing and tracing record, it's not likely that this will help those most in need.

I read an article about a local man who survived COVID after 174 days in the hospital. He looked to be in his 50s, had a son in the photo...maybe 10 years old. The article didn't focus on him so much, as it did our local Congressman, who this family contacted on two occasions.....to get Remdesivir for this man, and also to get him convalescent plasma. The family credited the Congressman's phone calls to the right people as a life-saving intervention. It likely did save his life. The average person isn't getting that kind of assistance from their local congressman.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/20/health/covid-antibody-regeneron.html?searchResultPosition=3

To be clear, none of the antibody drugs have gotten emergency use approval yet. When they do, there will likely be bumps in the road- like with Remdesivir- but over time, who is able to get access to what's out there will make more sense.
 
Keep in mind that half the people in each vaccine study got the placebo. Meaning, some are going to get Covid and, sadly, death is not out of the question. I suspect this will turn out to be one of the placebo folks. Just a guess though.
 
Keep in mind that half the people in each vaccine study got the placebo. Meaning, some are going to get Covid and, sadly, death is not out of the question. I suspect this will turn out to be one of the placebo folks. Just a guess though.

Right, thus I mentioned that I hope it’s not related to the vaccine.
 
Thanks Pyotr! Obviously, great news. Well, I mean...thoughts and prayers...but still...good news.
 
Editorial comment: one of the reasons that people are hesitant to be optimistic about Covid and don't believe what they hear about advancements in treatment and vaccines is straight up misinformation delivered by the media.

Yesterday afternoon, over an hour after the story confirmed that the Brazilian man who passed had gotten the placebo, the Washington Post tweeted this:

"Volunteer in Oxford coronavirus vaccine trial dies".

Only after you click on the details of the article do you find he did NOT get the actual vaccine. So what is the point of that headline if not to alarm and confuse?
 
To get people to click on the link, which presumably goes to an article, which presumably has ads on it. The headline is 100% true.
As with nearly all headlines though how you word something is usually how someone perceives something.

Pretty easy to see they worded it in such a way that makes a person think they died as a result of the vaccine in question. An alternative headline would be "Participant who received placebo in the Oxford vaccine trial dies". That's the actual factual statement.

But it's nothing new.
 
To get people to click on the link, which presumably goes to an article, which presumably has ads on it. The headline is 100% true.

Yeah. It's unfortunate, but their number one goal is to get viewers, clicks, etc. and I am sure they know that a negative sounding headline garners more attention. People blame the media, but it is the audience that has taught them that. WE have made them how they are. That's the downfall of news as monetized "entertainment" but that's what it is.
 
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