Evening Magic Hours for Deluxe Guests Only

[JakeAZ]

I don't blame people. I blame Chapek for putting more of a gap between the haves and have nots.

This is sarcasm, right? Nobody and I literally mean nobody, who can afford to go to Disney World, is a "have not".

If that comment is truly serious...these boards may need some perspective....

 

[MillauFr]

The weather is not better in October and November and Disneyland does not have the bubble. The area around disneyland is terrible.

you need a bubble in Florida. Not so in Orange County California

 

[elmwyn]

You don’t have to vacation club level. As many have pointed out, there are deluxe options no more expensive than a moderate or even a value- AOA suites. I’m not saying you should put up with anything. You should make the choice that’s right for you.

I mean, absolutely. Everyone can spend their vacation dollars however they see fit but it's the weird instances of denying a perk was a perk or pretending you shouldn't expect the same level of service unless you had an ironclad contract that just puts it into bizzarro-land for me.

 

[cakebaker]

Staying at Gran Destino this weekend. My dream of taunting people at the CR will have to wait till October.

You're in the towers- be proud and look down distainfully on the little people at CSR.

 

[Leahc117]

We’ve gone each year since 2019. I’ve heard people mention how much better perks were in the past, but haven’t experienced that. I assume perks have come and gone and aren’t a guarantee? I’ve recently been hoping to see paid extras return as we have a trip coming up with my in laws. I have no idea how to get them through the parks as I don’t think they can handle touring efficiently, early morning etc, like we do. As the planner of the family I’ve said heck I’ll pay extra to make their “once in a lifetime trip” better. I think the issue is that the parks are crowded- we work hard to manage the crowds- but I imagine they’re much more crowded than 10 years ago- or whenever people felt more valued by Disney. What is Disney supposed to do with the crowds- offer more perks at lower prices? I’d probably pay more to have less crowds - if that were ever an option. But it’s not - because people keep going to disney world. So we seem to pay more to have more crowds! I think we’ve always avoided the early hour because it increased crowds so I think it’ll be cool to have the extra half hour at any park. We never used the late night time because my kids (and husband) need sleep!

 

[elmwyn]

I'd love to see the data on the demographics at Deluxe resorts in terms of party size, age, etc. and what hours they typically go to the park. With all of the extensive analytics Disney can do, I'm sure this was a very calculated decision to target for a late-night benefit.

I really don't think it's that deep. They want to fill the deluxes and it is much easier to get those college students to stay later rather than wake up earlier.

 

[Jrb1979]

This is sarcasm, right? Nobody and I literally mean nobody, who can afford to go to Disney World, is a "have not".

If that comment is truly serious...these boards may need some perspective....

I'm not saying anything about rich and poor. I'm talking about that no matter what you resort you stayed at everyone got the same perks. Now they have decided depending how much you are willing to pay to stay you will get better perks.

In essence its making different classes of guests.

You're in the towers- be proud and look down distainfully on the little people at CSR.

I do every time I buy Express pass and look at all the common folk who stand in the regular queue

 

[cakebaker]

In essence its making different classes of guests.

That's already been done, many years ago. It started with Club 33. Now there's Club Level and VIP tours. Even within the resorts there are some rooms at a Deluxe that cost $500, others are thousands a night. It's not different classes, it's Disney trying to entice guests with more to spend to visit. Just like they created the value resorts for those who wanted to spend less.

Wait until the Star Wars hotel opens at what could be thousands per person in pricing. And you know what? I'm going to scrimp and save and sacrifice to stay there. Whatever it takes. That doesn't make me rich and it doesn't put me in a class above anyone else. It's a personal choice and a matter of priorities.

 

[Brocktoon]

Wait until the Star Wars hotel opens at what could be thousands per person in pricing. And you know what? I'm going to scrimp and save and sacrifice to stay there. Whatever it takes. That doesn't make me rich and it doesn't put me in a class above anyone else. It's a personal choice and a matter of priorities.

+1 to that!

 

[Jrb1979]

That's already been done, many years ago. It started with Club 33. Now there's Club Level and VIP tours. Even within the resorts there are some rooms at a Deluxe that cost $500, others are thousands a night. It's not different classes, it's Disney trying to entice guests with more to spend to visit. Just like they created the value resorts for those who wanted to spend less.

Wait until the Star Wars hotel opens at what could be thousands per person in pricing. And you know what? I'm going to scrimp and save and sacrifice to stay there. Whatever it takes. That doesn't make me rich and it doesn't put me in a class above anyone else. It's a personal choice and a matter of priorities.

Like I said earlier all of you are taking what I am saying in regards as if I am literally meaning it. What I am saying is that as far as free perks go no matter what resort you stayed at everyone got the same ones.

Now Chapek has decided the more you pay the better perks you get.

I don't look down on those who decide to pay for it. All the power to you. It's the optics that make it look bad.

As far as my comment on express pass I am serious. I love seeing the dirty looks I get when I walk by a family for the 4th time while they are still haven't ridden once.

 

[SLBGBR]

Reading all of this makes me wonder if they will offer an Oct (fall) deluxe resort package DISCOUNT?

 

[JakeAZ]

I'm not saying anything about rich and poor. I'm talking about that no matter what you resort you stayed at everyone got the same perks. Now they have decided depending how much you are willing to pay to stay you will get better perks.

In essence its making different classes of guests.

I don't mean to be rude...but that's literally how all aspects of life work. All. of. them.

 

[cakebaker]

I mean, it already has happened, it happened last night. They took a perk away "because of covid", which i can understand, (even though they were already trying to take it away before covid), and then are only giving it back to certain people.

The perk was taken away from everyone when they re-opened. All we know now is they aren't giving that perk back to anyone, but are adding some kind of EMH perk for Deluxe/DVC. We don't know how often, which parks or when and we don't know how long the EMH will be. Disney has this incredibly frustrating knack of name events the same or near same thing. After Hours, Extra Magic Hours, Extra Morning Magic....good God, be original and name them different names, because they are different.

Such is life. Disney changes perks all the time. Some I love, some I don't love at all. This one I like a great deal from what little I know of it. Sounds like a longer period of time and clearly will be significantly less crowded than the original evening hours.

 

[Jrb1979]

I don't mean to be rude...but that's literally how all aspects of life work. All. of. them.

I know that very well when I buy Express pass at every park I visit and walk past common folk all the time.

At the Mouse all free perks used to available to everyone regardless of resort. It made them different, now they are the same as every other park out there.

 

[JakeAZ]

when I buy Express pass at every park I visit and walk past common folk all the time

See it's this type of rhetoric that really gets to people. Everyone values money and time differently. Just because someone doesn't buy the EP, doesn't mean they can't. It's not cause and effect. It could just mean they don't want to.

Even though I may be able to afford a VIP tour, I would never buy one. Ever. I don't want to be led around by a human fast pass. It's not my thing.

Do I care if other people buy them? Nope. More power to them. Who knows, maybe they saved for years to be able to add that special treat onto their trip. Or maybe they just had money to burn. Doesn't matter to me.

 

[Jrb1979]

See it's this type of rhetoric that really gets to people. Everyone values money and time differently. Just because someone doesn't buy the EP, doesn't mean they can't. It's not cause and effect. It could just mean they don't want to.

Even though I may be able to afford a VIP tour, I would never buy one. Ever. I don't want to be led around by a human fast pass. It's not my thing.

Do I care if other people buy them? Nope. More power to them. Who knows, maybe they saved for years to be able to add that special treat onto their trip. Or maybe they just had money to burn. Doesn't matter to me.

I don't care what people do or if deluxe guests get this perk. It's more about that what was once given to everyone on site is only now available to higher paying guests.

I really don't care what people do or how much they pay. It's what Disney is implementing is the issue.

If you want to know why I mention common folk, not trying to be rude, but from going to parks a lot I can't stand GP. From those who bring their whole house with them to the parks all the way to those who don't understand "Seat Belts first lap bar second"

 

[CSLucas]

See it's this type of rhetoric that really gets to people. Everyone values money and time differently. Just because someone doesn't buy the EP, doesn't mean they can't. It's not cause and effect. It could just mean they don't want to.

Even though I may be able to afford a VIP tour, I would never buy one. Ever. I don't want to be led around by a human fast pass. It's not my thing.

Do I care if other people buy them? Nope. More power to them. Who knows, maybe they saved for years to be able to add that special treat onto their trip. Or maybe they just had money to burn. Doesn't matter to me.

Exactly. People value vacations differently, and if Disney wants to give people the ability to have a better vacation then more power to them. I personally think this perk makes complete sense and don't understand why they haven't done it before. Our first trip to Disney was supposed to be our "one and done" trip. We basically spared no expense, and the experience was MISERABLE because we quickly found out that unless you knew how to work the Disney system, you were pretty much screwed. It's by sheer chance that we ended up going multiple times, and I would bet a lot of families are like us and spend a ton on the "best" at Disney only to have a mediocre (or even bad) vacation. Adding in some time for people who are shelling out more money to enjoy the parks without needing to know which fast passes they needed and how to avoid crowds seems like a good way to acknowledge how much they have spent and give them a chance that the vacation they thought they were signing up for.
People on here often like to brag on how they mastered the fast pass system and never wait for anything and gleefully bypass the family in line who doesn't "get it". They are more than welcome to keep doing that, but please don't begrudge that family their time to also get the best the park has to offer.

 

[Jonfw2]

When you get on the plane, you’re doing something 95% of the world can’t do.

When you walk into your resort, you’re doing something 95% of the world can’t do.

When you buy a drink at the pool….

When you scan in at your first park…

When you sit down for your first ADR…

So what’s the moral objection to getting VIP? You’re WAY across the Rubicon at that point.

 

[Jrb1979]

When you get on the plane, you’re doing something 95% of the world can’t do.

When you walk into your resort, you’re doing something 95% of the world can’t do.

When you buy a drink at the pool….

When you scan in at your first park…

When you sit down for your first ADR…

So what’s the moral objection to getting VIP? You’re WAY across the Rubicon at that point.

It's not about who can afford what. It's never been about that. My gripe is that what once was a perk for everyone is now only to certain guests. It's just another thing in a long line of things that have been taken away. In all honesty I'm not shocked as I knew this was coming. It's the Chapek way.

 

[Jimmy Mouse]

Like I said earlier all of you are taking what I am saying in regards as if I am literally meaning it. What I am saying is that as far as free perks go no matter what resort you stayed at everyone got the same ones.

Now Chapek has decided the more you pay the better perks you get.

The more you pay the better perks you get has been going on way before Chapek. Walt created Club 33 for the ultra rich. Deluxe resort guest have signature dining at the resort. Club level guest get a lounge with food and drink included with their room. They all pay more to get more. Club 33 and Golden Oaks residents get 16 FP+ per person, per day. VIP gives guest unlimited FP+ and transportation from park to park. Before we purchased DVC, we stayed Deluxe, purchased the extra 3 FP+ and used the Minnie Van service every day of our trip. Those "perks" cost us money but it was our choice to spend it. This has all been going on way before Chapek was around.