I have seen no one here saying “the parks are empty,” “no one is going or bringing their kids, “the business is hovering on the verge of collapse,” or that there is “no demand.” So I think you are misrepresenting what several people here are saying.
Let me help with that then...
"I love seeing the top dog get beaten."
"I can't help but think that in pricing themselves out of the range of average families today, if WDC isn't cannibalizing a lot of future earnings in the name of today's profits."
"I think you're missing my point.
When little Johnny or Susie is introduced to Disney parks as a young tyke through repeated visits, my premise is that he or she can be imprinted with overwhelmingly positive feelings that extend into adulthood and adult buying decisions.
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discouraging some/many families with young children from coming as often or coming at all, and that may translate down the road into a smaller population valuing "Disney Magic."
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These are exactly talking about people not bringing their kids to Disney anymore and thus bringing about the end of the company long-term.
Those are just some of the comments. And yes, a lot of posts here are about "I'm done" and "my family is done" and "Disney will fail with these policies" and so forth.
I don’t know that anyone knows for sure, but the most common figures I have seen for the percentage of park guests who stay on property is 33-35%. If that’s the case (but I’m not sure it is), do you really think it makes sense to infer that “Disney has all the crowd they want and maybe a little more than they want” based on a few anecdotal examples of unavailable rooms in resorts operating at capacities no one here knows?
Disney hotels are where the people who are willing to pay higher prices go. If those hotels are filled and one of the biggest complaints are about how high Disney prices are and how people will still go, but not stay on property and the loss of benefit to on property, then yes. I believe that the amount of availability of property resorts IS reflective of the overall demand. That makes complete logical sense.
In addition, as mentioned it's not just resorts. ADR's are filled.
Genie+ is filled. AP's were oversold. Experiences are all sold out. They simply have no capacity available in any of their services.
Extrapolating to the absurd, what if the resorts were operating at 5% capacity?
I do not understand this point. Like you said, that's not reflective of reality. I could make up thousands of take scenarios that have no basis in reality. What does that tell us?
I think many people are getting disillusioned with Disney’s current management of WDW. I know I am. As frequent attendee for over 30 years, I feel that today I’m being taken advantage of. Prices are up and services are down. And there seems to be a steady stream of bad news for guests.
Right now I’m operating on the fumes of fond memories, trying my best to remain positive and to believe “this too will pass.” I may be alone in that, but I don’t think I am. If my sentiments are shared by a lot of people, and if Disney doesn’t change course, they may be setting themselves up in a bad way long term. I suppose time will tell.
I hear you, and again I do not think you are alone. But I do wonder how much of this is expected and even anticipated by Disney Management. One thing I will say about Disney - they didn't get to where they are by being stupid. They usually know far more about their base's sentiment than they let on. Which again leads me to believe that some of this may be on purpose.