WilsonFlyer
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If they shut down for an extended period they may consider extending the life of the contracts.
They can't do that. For any number of legal and logical reasons.
If they shut down for an extended period they may consider extending the life of the contracts.
A company this size SHOULD already have some sort of a Disaster Relief Team or Major Disaster Plan in place. Most likely in the event of a major hurricane hitting FL or a major earthquake hitting CA which could potentially create a similar closure. They MUST HAVE considered what chaos an extended closure could create. There must be back-up plans known only to a certain few in a secret vault somewhere.
You'd feel differently if was the end of your UY and you had a lot of points tied up in a reservation that ain't gonna happen and that you currently can't cancel and bank.
Good on you, but the point is it is nothing but the luck of the draw that it's not you. You could have just as easily been sitting in this chair. And still may be.
<snip> It's not completely the luck of the draw. Using points near the end of your UY has a degree of risk. </snip>
I wonder if members who want to use expired points could be charged something like $3-$7 per point? Could that recover some of the costs of declaring inventory months before sales.
Assume the lawyers could make it work. Would members be happy Disney is doing something for them or enraged they're paying twice to use their points?
Not completely the luck of the draw. I always thought purchasers were advised to pick a UIY that works with their anticipated use.It most certainly is luck of the draw. Perhaps I need to explain.
If you have a Dec UY and this happens in November instead of March, then it's you sitting in this chair instead of me if you ever want to go during Christmastime. Make sense now?
No. I want the usage of points I paid for. Now I can't go on those points because they won't open the doors. That's on them, not on me. I'm not paying one red cent for the privilege of using points I already paid for with my hard-earned money the first time.
Maybe they should make everybody pay a supplement of $3-7/point for every reservation for the next x months in order to compensate everybody affected by this mess? Yeah. I like that. See how that feels?
Many, dare I say most, who purchased at retail from DVD were told at sale time, "This is the UY we're currently selling." and simply purchased that UY...
Look... nobody had a crystal ball and could have predicted whether something like this would happen at Easter or Christmas so that entire argument is bogus anyway.
It most certainly is luck of the draw. Perhaps I need to explain.
If you have a Dec UY and this happens in November instead of March, then it's you sitting in this chair instead of me if you ever want to go during Christmastime. Make sense now?
Many, dare I say most, who purchased at retail from DVD were told at sale time, "This is the UY we're currently selling." and simply purchased that UY...
Look... nobody had a crystal ball and could have predicted whether something like this would happen at Easter or Christmas so that entire argument is bogus anyway.
I agree,,..no one could have predicted this...but, to be fair, owners who travel in the last month of their UY or beyond the banking deadline do know..or they should...that doing that puts those points into a situation that increases the risk greatly that you could lose them.
I've seen this thrown out there numerous times related to this topic where the blame is put on the owner for booking late in the UY. The booking deadline should work both ways. I'm taking the risk of booking late in the UY. If for some reason I have to cancel, that's the risk I've taken. If something happens and DVC has to cancel, that's the risk they're taking by having the banking deadline. If it's past the banking deadline and they cancel my reservation, why is that now my problem? Both parties should take responsibility for the risk involved.
Furthermore, borrowing points is supposed to be a one-way transaction. By borrowing points, you're taking a risk that if your trip has to be cancelled and you can't use the points before the end of the UY, you'll lose them. Why aren't people who borrowed points to use at the end of a UY getting blamed for taking this risk? Oh, that's right. It's because DVC is making a special exception for these people so they don't have to worry about it.
yes, our guide said they are selling August UY. This was May 2019. So, we got 2018 and 2019 points. We were and still are very new to DVC. We had rented several times before we bought our points. We used our vacation/entertainment fund to buy the points and like i mentioned before, we borrowed 2021 points for our September and December, but we used 75 points from 2019 and 125 points from 2020 and I bought 20 OTU points. I think the email they sent said if my trip gets canceled then they put the 20 OTU points in banking? I don't think that is fair though. They should refund the price i paid for those. But, if they don't refund me and they bank them for me then I guess I will just have to either upgrade my room or add a day...depends on availability.Many, dare I say most, who purchased at retail from DVD were told at sale time, "This is the UY we're currently selling." and simply purchased that UY...
Look... nobody had a crystal ball and could have predicted whether something like this would happen at Easter or Christmas so that entire argument is bogus anyway.
@Sandisw, I'm not saying you personally are playing the blame game, but when people make comments that people know the risks of booking after the banking deadline so too bad, that sure seems like it's placing the fault on the owner. I don't see it that way. I wasn't taking on the risk of DVC cancelling my reservation. I was taking on the risk of having to cancel the reservation myself. Maybe that's where I went wrong, but I'm sure others would feel the same way as I do.
This is far from over and hopefully DVC by taking some time to figure everything out, they can come up with a solution that at least lessens the pain a little. I'm also curious how many points are really being impacted by all of this. For example, if a lot of people that fall into the April/June UY have already used their 2019 points or banked them into 2020, there might not be that many points that fall into this post-banking but can't use category. The bigger issue is that if this drags out for a long time, more UYs could be impacted. Although, DVC could also come out and say that starting with August UY, bank by the 31st or you risk losing the points if the resorts are still closed. At least then you would know what the risks were.
Here was an email from Marriott, I received today. I may be taking it out of context, since I do not own Marriott points, but am a member of their loyalty program, which is why I think I was on the email list. The email covered many other topics.Does anyone know what other vacation clubs or timeshares are doing?
• | Points Expiration: To provide you ample time to redeem points, the expiration of points will be paused until February 2021. At that time, your points will only expire if your account has been inactive for at least 24 months. |
Here was an email from Marriott, I received today. I hope I did not take it out of context, since I do not own Marriott points, but am a member of their loyalty program, which is why I think I was on the email list. The email covered many other topics.
• Points Expiration: To provide you ample time to redeem points, the expiration of points will be paused until February 2021. At that time, your points will only expire if your account has been inactive for at least 24 months.