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Guys, let’s stick to masks in the theme parks please. Sweden’s handling of COVID 19 can be discussed on the Community Board.
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I appreciate the respectful discussion No argument that a lot of education about how to properly use masks has to be done. And I totally agree that it does give people the sense that they can do whatever they want if they have mask on. My suspicion is that those same people would do whatever they wanted without the mask, anyway. People touch their face about 1000 times per day, mask or not. But to your question, I would definitely rather have the person wear a mask! The person touching their mask has to touch a surface and then I have to touch the same surface and then touch my face without performing hand hygiene first to get a large dose of the virus. Without any mask all they have to do is cough or talk for enough time and I just breathe it in. Basically, perfect cant be the enemy of good here. If 100 people wear masks and 30 use them correctly that's still better to me than no one having a mask on at all. I mean, you guys cover your mouth when you cough, don't you?I don't question their effectiveness when used correctly. I question their use and effectiveness when not used correctly. I'm all for people wearing a mask if they want and I wish Disney didn't make them mandatory as it looks to be. I also have a child who would not be able to wear a mask, so we'll wait until no mask. Based on my antectodal evidence at least in my area the only time and place I've seen people use them correctly was when I took my child for a doctor's appointment. They squirted my hands with sanitizer and handed me a mask explaining to only touch the ear loops and never touch the inside or outside of the mask, as I was leaving I needed to dispose of the mask in a guarded receptacle and again sanitize after. When taking a walk around my block, I see masks dangling from rearview mirrors, when I'm in my supermarket it is required for their workers and highly encouraged for shoppers to wear one yet I see them adjusting, scratching their face, covering just their mouth with their mask. Now what happens when I see the employee's nose breathing on the front of their mask, adjusting the front of their mask, then putting it back on and putting away bananas that customers are now going to grab. Now a whole family may have contracted covid. But everyone was wearing a mask! I mentioned previously I believe it's psychological because some feel safer seeing others have it on and others like myself now feel less safe because I'm seeing all the 'mistakes' when wearing them. I would think less about the germs and virus if that person working at the supermarket was without a mask and just putting the bananas back. (Nothing against people working at supermarkets, true mvps, just what I observed) I agree it's a respiratory virus and how it's transmitted, but my opinion is it either needs to be done right or not at all. I felt comfortable wearing one and safe at the hospital because it was done correctly.
If I knew I was going to be trapped in a room with someone who had Covid-19, I would mentally prepare myself that there would be a high probability I might contract it, be as positive as possible knowing there's a good chance I'll survive, then if I did get it, do my best to fight it off and trust my doctor's to do their best if I needed to be hospitalized. Can I ask if you knew you would be trapped in a room with 1 person with covid-19 and had to choose between one person with a mask who is constantly fidgeting with it, touching their face, lifting it up and another person who is quietly there making sure they're not touching their face, what would you choose?
I’m curious about those saying you have no problem going if masks are required ...do you have children? Even if I, as an adult, was ok with it, there’s no way I would go and expect my kids to wear them. I’m certain they would complain endlessly and mess with them non stop. It would be miserable for all of us. I’m just surprised so many are saying it won’t be a big deal, if kids are involved.
I was in no way suggesting I would go and not follow the rules. If masks are mandatory, my trip will be cancelled, end of story. And not because I think masks aren’t effective or any other reason besides it doesn’t sound like a vacation that would be enjoyable to me.I am in the HRG because of Lung Disease. I am also in the health care profession and due to the severity of the Pandemic, I had to take a LOA. I too have a YC also with ILD and that makes her HR too. We both go out in mask. Is it easy nope! Is it uncomfortable absolutely! I can’t even walk around with my N95 on for longer than 10 minutes.
I now have to use a scooter when we go grocery shopping due to having to use one. It took a few weeks before I was able to bring my child out in public with me because I had to train her to use her FM correctly. She is also on the “Spectrum” so she had to be trained to accept and adapt to having something over her face. She would immediately pull it off and scream she couldn’t breathe. It was awful. As her parent, it is my responsibility to make sure that she remains as safe as possible in public.
The school she attends is going to require FM for EVERYONE NO EXEMPTIONS. They have stated if you can’t get your kid to wear one, then your child will need to be homebound with homeschool instruction until they can comply. This will become a bigger inconvenience to anyone who needs to return to work.
It’s not like you don’t know how hot it can get anytime at WDW. You have the option to stay your behind at home. No one is forcing you to go. It does not provide an essential service. If Disney sticks to mask being required follow the rules or be ready to face the consequences of your actions. I don’t care if they never enforced anything else before. This is a completely different ball game. You don’t know what they may or may not do this time. They may just call your bluff.
If the FM are still required in December when we plan to go back, we will be wearing one. We canceled our usual Summer Trip because mask will be required and I don’t think I’d be able to transport the maximum amount of supplemental O2 I’d need to make it through the day! I’ll just sit my behind at home and live vicariously through the ones there, wishing I was able to join them.
And contrary to the DIS belief, there will be plenty more people who will actually follow the rules who will happily take your place to be able to Disney once again.
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I cancelled our July trip because...well, we are in the midst of a Global Pandemic and even if there are less cases, I'm just not taking the risk for anyone or anything to travel at all. As for a mask, if it isn't safe to go to WDW without a mask, I will not be travelling there with or without a mask. My answer is I am Pro-Mask.
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no agenda here. As stated by myself and others several times now, we simply are canceling our trips if masks are necessary. Masks outdoors in extreme heat and humidity is something we’re not willing to do, truly don’t get anyone’s issue with those of us canceling trips. You should be happy there will be more room for you.Heres another example of how they do help. But youre correct a lot of folks aren't interested in facts and want to believe whatever supports their personal agenda/situation.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449
no agenda here. As stated by myself and others several times now, we simply are canceling our trips if masks are necessary. Masks outdoors in extreme heat and humidity is something we’re not willing to do, truly don’t get anyone’s issue with those of us canceling trips. You should be happy there will be more room for you.
I was in no way suggesting I would go and not follow the rules. If masks are mandatory, my trip will be cancelled, end of story. And not because I think masks aren’t effective or any other reason besides it doesn’t sound like a vacation that would be enjoyable to me.
My point was really about all the people saying they won’t have a problem with it. I’m guessing a lot will change their minds after actually doing it for a day or two, especially when kids are involved. It’s much easier said than done.
I don't question their effectiveness when used correctly. I question their use and effectiveness when not used correctly. I'm all for people wearing a mask if they want and I wish Disney didn't make them mandatory as it looks to be. I also have a child who would not be able to wear a mask, so we'll wait until no mask. Based on my antectodal evidence at least in my area the only time and place I've seen people use them correctly was when I took my child for a doctor's appointment. They squirted my hands with sanitizer and handed me a mask explaining to only touch the ear loops and never touch the inside or outside of the mask, as I was leaving I needed to dispose of the mask in a guarded receptacle and again sanitize after. When taking a walk around my block, I see masks dangling from rearview mirrors, when I'm in my supermarket it is required for their workers and highly encouraged for shoppers to wear one yet I see them adjusting, scratching their face, covering just their mouth with their mask. Now what happens when I see the employee's nose breathing on the front of their mask, adjusting the front of their mask, then putting it back on and putting away bananas that customers are now going to grab. Now a whole family may have contracted covid. But everyone was wearing a mask! I mentioned previously I believe it's psychological because some feel safer seeing others have it on and others like myself now feel less safe because I'm seeing all the 'mistakes' when wearing them. I would think less about the germs and virus if that person working at the supermarket was without a mask and just putting the bananas back. (Nothing against people working at supermarkets, true mvps, just what I observed) I agree it's a respiratory virus and how it's transmitted, but my opinion is it either needs to be done right or not at all. I felt comfortable wearing one and safe at the hospital because it was done correctly.
If I knew I was going to be trapped in a room with someone who had Covid-19, I would mentally prepare myself that there would be a high probability I might contract it, be as positive as possible knowing there's a good chance I'll survive, then if I did get it, do my best to fight it off and trust my doctor's to do their best if I needed to be hospitalized. Can I ask if you knew you would be trapped in a room with 1 person with covid-19 and had to choose between one person with a mask who is constantly fidgeting with it, touching their face, lifting it up and another person who is quietly there making sure they're not touching their face, what would you choose?
My guess based on current medical recommendations is that masks will still be in place the rest of this year. But I'm sure others will disagree.Do you think the masks will be a temporary mandate? If so, do you think by September that will be lifted? No way to know I understand just want what people's thoughts are. We are booked at the beginning of September. If this has been discussed before I apologize I tried to search and nothing came up.
They do use the language “temporary” and “during this initial phase” often. Nobody knows how temporary, though.Do you think the masks will be a temporary mandate? If so, do you think by September that will be lifted? No way to know I understand just want what people's thoughts are. We are booked at the beginning of September. If this has been discussed before I apologize I tried to search and nothing came up.