ilovetotravel1977
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Yea, nothing new in that article. I've seen ones like that before now. We won't be opening to the US until September, at least.
Yea, nothing new in that article. I've seen ones like that before now. We won't be opening to the US until September, at least.
That's my thought exactly. I am finally seeing a light at the end of the tunnel and believe borders will open sooner than we think.There's LOTS new on the US side of the border today. The CDC's announcement that fully vaccinated individuals no longer need to wear a mask is HUGE, and I suspect Mr. Trudeau will be facing some sharply increasing pressure to formulate a plan to reopen the borders, whether in stages or otherwise. Speaking solely of my own situation, it's going to be hard for Canada to justify keeping me (a Canadian citizen who is 14 days+ past being fully vaccinated) from traveling home without being subject to a 14 day self quarantine when the CDC says I'm so safe that I don't even need to be masked (indoors or out).
I am really, really hoping that things improve as we move in the same direction.Well we do tend to follow what the US does a lot of the time. Sounds like those CDC announcements caused some kerfuffle
I find Tam to be so negative. Honestly I don't put a lot of stock in what she says considering how badly the beginning of the pandemic was handled. I am feeling much more optimistic about my potential August trip than I was. The next 4-6 weeks will tell us a lot more about what will happen next. Let's hope it's good news.Listening to Tam today and the 75% one dose/20% two dose, I don't think they have any intention of (a) dropping masks and (b) reopening the border for quite some time. And I was so optimistic last week when the PM stated international travel this summer 'may happen'. Ha.
IMO the border should stay closed til the vast majority of Canadians are vaccinated. I say this due to the new guidelines the CDC put in place and that many places are dropped mask mandates way before the majority are vaccinated.
Edit to add: Do you think US tourists are going to wear a mask in Canada when they don't have to in the US?
The majority of people in MANY states in the USA *are* fully vaccinated. Our state is already over 55% vaccinated, and just opened vaccines to the 12-16 age group last week....so we should continue to trend upwards. Citizens here can obtain a vaccine at walk in clinics throughout the state, without an appointment, free of charge, and there are plenty to go around.
I could accept the extended separation when the risks were known, documented and proven. I love my country as much as anyone who still lives there.....Canada is my home, and its where everyone I love will continue to reside. I want to keep my fellow Canadians safe at all costs. But when the recommendations are followed and the risks are gone, I see no benefit in keeping a border closed out of an abundance of fear. Have restrictions and requirements to cross? Absolutely! I wouldn't want it any other way. I'm happy to provide proof of my vaccination status at the border. I'm happy to submit to a Covid test both coming and going as an extra precaution. But keep the borders closed indefinitely to those full vaccinated individuals who even the CDC agrees pose no risk?
I don't see visitors to Canada ignoring mask regulations any more than they would ignore any other rules of the country. Visitors from Britain don't drive on the opposite side of the road just because they do so at home. Travelers from the USA still follow speed limit guidelines while in Canada, even though they are slower than in many US states. Canadian tourists wouldn't let their 19 year olds drink in an American restaurant where the age limit is different. As the old saying goes, "When in Rome.....". If people want or need to visit, they will follow whatever mask regulations are currently in place in those communities.
@Gina-Gina-Bo-Bina, what if you as a fully vaccinated person have Covid (asymptomatic) and bring that into the country where it can now spread among partially or not yet vaccinated people? Having a negative test today does not guarantee that you won't cross the border with Covid. And how do the guards at the border assess whether you have been legitimately vaccinated. The passport will be a huge negotiation between the two countries. It's not all black and white, easy to solve. While the CDC governs things in the states it truly has no bearing on how things are done in this country.
It is a pain and we all want to be able to do what we used to be able to do but we just have to be patient a little longer.
Canada was more than willing to follow the CDC's guidelines at the beginning of the pandemic when they called for quarantines, masking, social distancing and other restrictions....why would they not be as willing to follow their guidelines as we turn the corner on transmitting the virus?
Thanks for the reminder to ignore, like most of us, I'm walking a very thin line right now and simple things easily slip my mindI’m not seeing everything in this thread cause I have ignored some posters. But I would just like to remind everyone please don’t get political. We don’t need more threads closed.
Thanks for the reminder to ignore, like most of us, I'm walking a very thin line right now and simple things easily slip my mind
I agree with most of what you've said here but want to comment on the 2 things I've highlighted in your post
We do NOT have the ability to get vaccinated with the same ease that you have been due to supply. We are at the mercy of the supply chain and there's no way around it, this is not the time to fix it or discuss how we got here, we just need to deal with the circumstances. Our vaccine rates are moving forward at a better pace now but if you look at THIS WEBSITE you can see that as a country we only have ~ 3% of our entire country fully vaccinated, we have a LOOONG way to go yet. Our mid-late summer mark is only for 1st doses administered but we will get there.
The border won't be closed indefinitely but we need to give our population a chance to get vaccinated before that happens. Don't forget that none of the vaccines offer 100% protection, so you could still get ill (the VOC are terrible buggers!) or even with the best precautions in place possibly infect someone here (not enough study time to determine if a vaccinated person can transmit)
**** This is directed to everyone now:
I get that this is frustrating and that we've all reached the end of our ropes, heck even hubby and I as extreme introverts are itchy to go somewhere, ANYWHERE, but we're still on a stay-at-home order in Ontario. Yes, we need to open our borders again but we have to wait a bit longer. When i get frustrated i pull up news articles from a year ago when even the thought of a vaccine, never mind multiple, was just a dream & we had only started to loosen lockdown restrictions. Then i take a step back, take some deep breaths and thank the scientific and medical communities that brought us this far. Just hang in a bit longer everyone and keep protecting everyone.