The Running Thread - 2018

[IamTrike]

I really try and not miss runs. I have times when I have to cut them short based on scheduling issues. Injury would be a reason to skip some runs.

My biggest issue is that I find each run I skip makes it easier to skip another run in the cycle. If I am just running for fitness that's not really bad, but if I am on a training cycle with a specific goal, it really throws me off.

I also find that I don't really just "maintain". Post my Chicago training cycle I was running 4/5 days a week trying to maintain and I wound up gaining about 10 pounds and my marathon time jumped up about 30 minutes. I started training hard again in December before Dopey and really picked that up about 4 weeks ago. I'm slowly improving again and the weight is coming off.

 

[jennamfeo]

ATTQOTD: Until I started my DBP, I was a huge skipper. Skip a day, a week, a month, oh God I have to run a HM now without training. Having a coach has definitely made me a more serious runner. So in the last 11 weeks of my 12 week plan, I haven't skipped a single workout. One has gotten cut short and one has gotten cut into two days. But the miles and efforts were put in and it was never on a day I thought was important for my training itself.
Otherwise it is usually life scheduling or my mood or my snooze button that tries to get me to skip a training.

wife had a bad day and needs to go out to dinner.

YOU WIN.

Hangovers

I have ran to get rid of a hangover before and it surprisingly worked.

Sitting in airport now watching my flight to Mexico get delayed and delayed. Praying I get to go on vacation cause I need it.

OH NO. Sending you all the good vibes that your plane stops delaying!!

My biggest issue is that I find each run I skip makes it easier to skip another run in the cycle.

This is also my biggest problem.

 

[Bree]

ATTQOTD: Weather. I fall off the wagon every time summer arrives in FL and come up with every excuse not to go.

 

[apdebord]

ATTQOTD: There's certain days where I get home from work and just need to be alone and I don't feel like dealing with people at my barre studio or the people in my neighborhood if I go run. So I get a snack and a drink and I sit on the couch and watch Bravo with my dogs.

 

[michigandergirl]

ATTQOTD: Family obligations - life with 3 kids gets a little nutso and sometimes you just can't fit it all in. I will say though, by getting my runs done in the wee hours of the morning, I haven't missed may runs in the last two years.

 

[run.minnie.miles]

ATTQOTD: Family & social obligations, mood, health...
I have been having the issue lately where I plan to run 4x that week, and then one run gets derailed by a last minute something or other and only end up with 3 runs, which has been really frustrating. I am not a place where I am able to say "Sorry, I can't attend your last minute birthday celebration, I have a run scheduled." but I think I am getting closer! It's tough to balance life sometimes- this would probably be easier if I ran in the morning, but that doesn't work for me right now.

This was my question and I have appreciated reading people's responses- thanks! It's reassuring to know I'm not alone and also admire those that do not skip!

 

[Miranda]

ATTQOTD: When I'm plan-less and/or group-less, I pretty much am like @jennamfeo Work, illness, "it's Thursday" Joining up with my running group made me pretty consistent for 2-3 days a week (we did 3 days in our fall HM training, we do 2 days in the winter/spring) at least, although this winter has been tough. Last winter, I don't think we had to cancel more than once or twice, but this winter, we have had to call off a lot of runs due to either bad weather/ice falling on our run days or extreme cold. I am about to start a DB HM plan for my May HM so soon I will be with both a group and a plan!

 

[huggybuff]

QOTD: Aside from illness/injury, what reason(s) do you deem acceptable to skip a planned run or workout?

This is has been a complicated issue for me since I started running. I have touched on it a bit in my journal. At this point I don't deem anything but illness/injury acceptable to miss a run. I live in a temperate climate, have no kids and a job that doesn't require extra hours. I used to beat myself up pretty bad for missing runs until just recently. I no longer do that and it feels so good. It actually makes me think of running as something I want to do as opposed to a 'have to and if I don't do it I'm a bag of poop'. Perfectionism sucks, y'all.

 

[JeffW]

Paging @DopeyBadger

I was thinking of posting this in your thread about creating training plans, but thought the greater Running Thread community may be interested. I found it an interesting discussion about race time prediction data and correlations to various factors.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...-updated-formula-for-marathon-running-success

 

[DopeyBadger]

Paging @DopeyBadger

I was thinking of posting this in your thread about creating training plans, but thought the greater Running Thread community may be interested. I found it an interesting discussion about race time prediction data and correlations to various factors.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...-updated-formula-for-marathon-running-success

What a fantastic article with a wealth of information. I know what I'll be breaking down next! I'm interested to see how I can incorporate my ideas on time into this.

 

[jennamfeo]

So my husband asked me a strange question last night and wanted to know what you all would say. He works from home during the day and tries to run when he can. He usually caps out at a 5k (that's his long run, if you will). But he was looking up if running multiple times a day would be just as effiective. He does some 5k and 10k races with me on occasion but mostly runs to lose weight.

The question: For how long do you think you could run one mile every hour? So if he works from home for 8 hours, he is wondering if like 6 of those hours he could stop and run a mile, then get back to work. I told him I could probably run one mile every hour for at least 8-10 hours. I'd get bored probably but I don't know if I would get fatigued. But maybe all the stopping and starting would fatigue me more? Paging coach @DopeyBadger to see his thoughts too, of course.

 

[kski907]

ATTQOTD: what timing as I will most likely miss this weekends run as it’s another out of town swim meet weekend. So I will say kid/family functions sometimes require skipping a run.

On a side note. We found apple fritters today in Juneau. They do exist in AK and are even WI worthy in size. So excited.

 

[LSUlakes]

I'm looking for advice on golf courses at Disney World. Anyone have a recommendation? I looked a little in the DIS, I am overlooking the "Golf" type threads? TIA

 

[LSUlakes]

So my husband asked me a strange question last night and wanted to know what you all would say. He works from home during the day and tries to run when he can. He usually caps out at a 5k (that's his long run, if you will). But he was looking up if running multiple times a day would be just as effiective. He does some 5k and 10k races with me on occasion but mostly runs to lose weight.

The question: For how long do you think you could run one mile every hour? So if he works from home for 8 hours, he is wondering if like 6 of those hours he could stop and run a mile, then get back to work. I told him I could probably run one mile every hour for at least 8-10 hours. I'd get bored probably but I don't know if I would get fatigued. But maybe all the stopping and starting would fatigue me more? Paging coach @DopeyBadger to see his thoughts too, of course.

I am not sure how difficult this would be and would like to think I could do a lot of this. It doesnt seem like it would be hard, but maybe over the course of many hours it would be. What if you started the first hour at 7:00, but ran the mile at 7:50, then started mile two at 8:00, then wouldnt you in theory have until 9:50 to run the 3rd mile giving a nice little rest between...

We could make a game out of this. Start at 7AM 1 mile and 1 beer each hour. At what time would you be done at? Which one would cause you to stop?
I think by 2 PM I would be done. lol

 

[DopeyBadger]

So my husband asked me a strange question last night and wanted to know what you all would say. He works from home during the day and tries to run when he can. He usually caps out at a 5k (that's his long run, if you will). But he was looking up if running multiple times a day would be just as effiective. He does some 5k and 10k races with me on occasion but mostly runs to lose weight.

The question: For how long do you think you could run one mile every hour? So if he works from home for 8 hours, he is wondering if like 6 of those hours he could stop and run a mile, then get back to work. I told him I could probably run one mile every hour for at least 8-10 hours. I'd get bored probably but I don't know if I would get fatigued. But maybe all the stopping and starting would fatigue me more? Paging coach @DopeyBadger to see his thoughts too, of course.

I see no reason why he couldn't do it. I'm sure I could do it for as much time as there is in a day between waking and sleeping. Pace and current fitness will matter as always. The question would be what is the goal? It seems the goal is to lose weight or burn calories. Then in theory this would work. But if the goal is to improve performance in any way, that's a much tougher endeavor with this type of scheme.

Gut instinct - As discussed in the past, the point at which the "aerobic" system turns on is roughly 6 min after the workout begins. So if he did any pacing faster than marathon tempo, he'd start with the anaerobic system for 6 min and then finish the mile (say 10 total min or 4 min aerobic work). Since the 5k is 80% aerobic by nature this wouldn't be advantageous since he won't be taxing that system much over the course of training. And certainly a recovery of 50 min between bouts will put him back at ground zero. He'll definitely be messing with the bodies recovery scheme (which is one way to induce further adaptations - such as double days).

Now, let's say he was already doing just one mile a day every day (so 7 miles a week), but instead he started doing 1 mile 6x per day for every day (1 mile per hour for 6 hours x 7 days = 42 miles). Now is 42 miles of training going to beat 7 miles of training? Likely yes. So if he increases the overall workload rather than just spreading the mileage out over the day, then he will probably see performance benefits. But if the workload remains the same and instead is spread out over the course of the day it isn't seen the same way physiologically.

It's definitely an interesting question. Unlike the standard - is a 5 mile in morning and 5 mile in evening equal to a 10 mile run straight-through?

Edit to add - I'll add that just like any other training I certainly wouldn't advise just jumping into it. Start with two runs of a mile in a day. Do that for a week and then try 3 in a day. Don't just start with 6 runs in a day. And I'd highly advise that almost every one of these be kept very easy.

 

[huggybuff]

I'm looking for advice on golf courses at Disney World. Anyone have a recommendation? I looked a little in the DIS, I am overlooking the "Golf" type threads? TIA

Quick search, not sure this is quite what you're going for, but it's a start.

 

[jennamfeo]

We could make a game out of this. Start at 7AM 1 mile and 1 beer each hour. At what time would you be done at? Which one would cause you to stop?
I think by 2 PM I would be done. lol

I have no plans for Sunday. Challenge accepted. Does the type of beer matter? lol

 

[LSUlakes]

I have no plans for Sunday. Challenge accepted. Does the type of beer matter? lol

The rules used for a beer mile shall govern this contest.

 

[rteetz]

I'm looking for advice on golf courses at Disney World. Anyone have a recommendation? I looked a little in the DIS, I am overlooking the "Golf" type threads? TIA

I think golf is a underrepresented topic here. One of the golf courses did just open foot golf though.

 

[KSellers88]

I am not sure how difficult this would be and would like to think I could do a lot of this. It doesnt seem like it would be hard, but maybe over the course of many hours it would be. What if you started the first hour at 7:00, but ran the mile at 7:50, then started mile two at 8:00, then wouldnt you in theory have until 9:50 to run the 3rd mile giving a nice little rest between...

We could make a game out of this. Start at 7AM 1 mile and 1 beer each hour. At what time would you be done at? Which one would cause you to stop?
I think by 2 PM I would be done. lol

Reading this reminds me of those math problems in school for some weird reason (maybe because it has been a long day). If train A and train B each leave their stations at 6:00 PM and they are 100 miles apart, how many apples does Joe have? LOL.