I actually spent my entire dentist appt debating this. Glad I had something to focus on rather than my appt.
Breakfast: MK Sleepy Hollow Nutella waffle
Snack: DS carrot cake sandwich (wanted to pick AK dole whip with rum but didn’t know if that would count as a drink)
Lunch: AK Trilo Bites for buffalo chicken chips
Supper: Epcot San Angel Inn
 
Maybe I'm late to the party, but did anyone notice times have been added to the WDW Marathon weekend website? All races start at 5:30 am and the Expo opens at 10 am on Wednesday & Thursday and 9:30 am on Friday & Saturday.

There is still no race retreat listed. With the earlier start time for the Expo on Wednesday, do you think that race retreat will not be offered this year? Or, maybe it just won't include early access to the Expo? Could these earlier hours also be part of an effort to avoid the crazy long lines that occurred last year?

Only 5 weeks until registration opens, LOL!
 


Maybe I'm late to the party, but did anyone notice times have been added to the WDW Marathon weekend website? All races start at 5:30 am and the Expo opens at 10 am on Wednesday & Thursday and 9:30 am on Friday & Saturday.

There is still no race retreat listed. With the earlier start time for the Expo on Wednesday, do you think that race retreat will not be offered this year? Or, maybe it just won't include early access to the Expo? Could these earlier hours also be part of an effort to avoid the crazy long lines that occurred last year?

Only 5 weeks until registration opens, LOL!
All races started at the same time this year too. The race retreat thing is interesting though.
 
There is still no race retreat listed. With the earlier start time for the Expo on Wednesday, do you think that race retreat will not be offered this year? Or, maybe it just won't include early access to the Expo? Could these earlier hours also be part of an effort to avoid the crazy long lines that occurred last year?

IDK about Race Retreat ... this year and the year before (the first two where it offered early access to the Expo), sold out completely for Goofy/Dopey and Marathon wristbands very soon after they were released. Even access for Half Marathoners sold out at some point.

In 2016, the last year WITHOUT early Expo Entry, they were still selling Race Retreat AT the Expo for Half, Full, Goofy/Dopey.

This is RunDisney ... they ain't turning down a cashgrab.
 
FYI - RunDisney updated the Pacing Chart table across all race pages on the website, along with the explainer on Marathon Proof of Time telling you to refer to the Pacing Chart below.

The exact text: If you believe you will finish the Half Marathon in less than 2:45 hours or the Marathon in less than 5:30 hours, proof of time is required for start corral placement. Goofy's Race and a Half Challenge and Dopey Challenge participants should adhere to Full Marathon proof of time requirements. Proof of time is not required for the 5K and 10K races. Please reference the Pacing Requirements below for finish times and associated pacing per mile. Please note we do not accept self-timed, training, or virtual runs as proof of time.

Also, in the last 20 minutes that I've been looking at the code record, a block of text has been removed from the Marathon Weekend page ONLY that said as follows:
Please note that if you submit a proof of time from a race distance other than a Half Marathon, an industry standard calculation will be applied to equate your time. To help you calculate your anticipated finish time using a Half Marathon pace, please use the following Race Pacing Chart:
It still remains on W&D, Princess and Star Wars. FWIW, it's also not noted out (ie. <!-- > in the code), which RunDisney does for A LOT of things they may go in an add later. It's completely deleted.

Anyway. If this is what RunDisney is going to use going forward for half-to-full conversion, it's basically just doubling a half marathon time. It's definitely different from 2018, because my PoT for 2018 is one of the round times on the chart (plus a couple of seconds, but not enough to make a big difference) and it definitely would've moved me up a corral based on the Pacing Chart compared to Corral Breakdown.

I can't see what the previous values in the table, and, frankly, I never really paid attention to it in the first place. Race Retreat and the Expo Hours being changed got me curious, so I started poking around. All of the information about Race Retreat and Expo Early Entry is still there, but just noted out ... so :confused3.

I'll give it 24 hours or so and then send out another spider to see if there are any other changes.
 


FYI - RunDisney updated the Pacing Chart table across all race pages on the website, along with the explainer on Marathon Proof of Time telling you to refer to the Pacing Chart below.

The exact text: If you believe you will finish the Half Marathon in less than 2:45 hours or the Marathon in less than 5:30 hours, proof of time is required for start corral placement. Goofy's Race and a Half Challenge and Dopey Challenge participants should adhere to Full Marathon proof of time requirements. Proof of time is not required for the 5K and 10K races. Please reference the Pacing Requirements below for finish times and associated pacing per mile. Please note we do not accept self-timed, training, or virtual runs as proof of time.

Also, in the last 20 minutes that I've been looking at the code record, a block of text has been removed from the Marathon Weekend page ONLY that said as follows:
Please note that if you submit a proof of time from a race distance other than a Half Marathon, an industry standard calculation will be applied to equate your time. To help you calculate your anticipated finish time using a Half Marathon pace, please use the following Race Pacing Chart:
It still remains on W&D, Princess and Star Wars. FWIW, it's also not noted out (ie. <!-- > in the code), which RunDisney does for A LOT of things they may go in an add later. It's completely deleted.

Anyway. If this is what RunDisney is going to use going forward for half-to-full conversion, it's basically just doubling a half marathon time. It's definitely different from 2018, because my PoT for 2018 is one of the round times on the chart (plus a couple of seconds, but not enough to make a big difference) and it definitely would've moved me up a corral based on the Pacing Chart compared to Corral Breakdown.

I can't see what the previous values in the table, and, frankly, I never really paid attention to it in the first place. Race Retreat and the Expo Hours being changed got me curious, so I started poking around. All of the information about Race Retreat and Expo Early Entry is still there, but just noted out ... so :confused3.

I'll give it 24 hours or so and then send out another spider to see if there are any other changes.

That pacing chart looks like it always has, it's just saying what pace you need to run to get those times in the half or full. I don't think that it really has anything to do with converting half to full for proof of time. I've always thought it was just a handy chart to look at to say If I run this pace I get this time. Their wording though seems to always be where you could take it many ways.
 
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Please note that if you submit a proof of time from a race distance other than a Half Marathon, an industry standard calculation will be applied to equate your time.

An industry standard calculator? #fakenews I just wish they would share this mysterious calculator!
 
It's whatever Track Shack uses I guess, it would be nice but I doubt the new registering will have anything for us to see/use unfortunately.
FWIW, I emailed rD/TS with a very specific POT question re: W&D 2018 and in their response to answer my question they added a comment that they expect to make their calculator available on the website. I forgot about that until now... maybe we'll see it when they make the transition to registration via MDE?
 
Commemorative items have been added to the Registration page too. Nothing too exciting, just the typical bundles, mystery weekend jacket and an AP logo pin (is this new?)
 
Commemorative items have been added to the Registration page too. Nothing too exciting, just the typical bundles, mystery weekend jacket and an AP logo pin (is this new?)
AP logo pin? I wonder what that is. I really wish they would show these things before purchasing.
 
Commemorative items have been added to the Registration page too. Nothing too exciting, just the typical bundles, mystery weekend jacket and an AP logo pin (is this new?)
The marathon weekend bundle also includes a snow globe. Have they had snow globes in the past? I assume it is a small snowglobe since its bundled with an ornament, keychain, and magnet. No previews or prices are listed yet. Like may of you, I prefer to see what I'm buying!
 
The marathon weekend bundle also includes a snow globe. Have they had snow globes in the past? I assume it is a small snowglobe since its bundled with an ornament, keychain, and magnet. No previews or prices are listed yet. Like may of you, I prefer to see what I'm buying!
Last year they bundled the Mickey figurine with some things.
 
Commemorative items have been added to the Registration page too. Nothing too exciting, just the typical bundles, mystery weekend jacket and an AP logo pin (is this new?)

New in the pin bundles this year is the ‘I did it’ pin; last year the individual race bundles were the race logo pin, the medal replica pin and the magnet. The Marathon weekend bundle was (if I remember) the magnet, shoe ornament and figurine. There were no pictures of anything until they did the general release a few weeks before the race.

Has anyone ordered the jacket before? If so, what was it like and was it worth it?
 
New in the pin bundles this year is the ‘I did it’ pin; last year the individual race bundles were the race logo pin, the medal replica pin and the magnet. The Marathon weekend bundle was (if I remember) the magnet, shoe ornament and figurine. There were no pictures of anything until they did the general release a few weeks before the race.

Has anyone ordered the jacket before? If so, what was it like and was it worth it?
I believe this year was the first with I did it pins wasn't it? I don't remember I did it pins before this year. I usually always get a pin or two or 10...
 
New in the pin bundles this year is the ‘I did it’ pin; last year the individual race bundles were the race logo pin, the medal replica pin and the magnet. The Marathon weekend bundle was (if I remember) the magnet, shoe ornament and figurine. There were no pictures of anything until they did the general release a few weeks before the race.

Has anyone ordered the jacket before? If so, what was it like and was it worth it?
I preordered the Dark Side Half jacket this year. A few things to note. In 2017, there were two different styles available in both mens and women's sizes, a Dark Side Half jacket and a Dark Side Challenge jacket. When I went to the Expo at opening on the first day, both mens and women's sizes were available in both the half and challenge styles.

In 2018, I made it the expo the afternoon of the first day and not a jacket to be seen anywhere. I do not know if they sold out before I got there or if they only made jackets available to preorders this time around. Furthermore, it was just one jacket that said race weekend. It did not specify which race a person ran. It also had the thumb holes, which some people like or love. I personally do not know what they're for.

My little sister liked the jacket, but it's having some snagging issues for her. Mine does not. Also be aware that on the women's side of things, the jacket sizes may run off. My sister had to exchange hers because it was way too small. I'm a guy and had no problems with my size. I note here that I was not even aware of possible size problems until I read about them here on the boards when I was trying to get information about the BB-8 race figurine.

As for worth, I suppose that depends on personal preference. First off, they are around $90 if I remember correctly. I do like both my jackets and wear them often. The tricky thing here is the blind buy aspect of it, but I'm currently in the camp of if I think I want a jacket, then I will preorder it and return it at the expo if I don't like it.
 

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