Experts say face masks can help slow COVID-19, despite previous claims

Its the overseas version ,kn95. They were ordered a while ago. Most medical facilities will not use them as they are not osha certified. Some are counterfit, as i suspect my cancled order was last week. They were shipped.
We got 10 of those. KN95 is the Chinese standard, which 3M says is equivalent -- but they sure don't look equivalent to me.

I think they may be better than medical masks because they fit and cover better. But N95 they definitely ain't!
 
Its basicly the inside peice thats made of a tight woven fiber that makes them different. Hopefully the kn 95s have that. The counterfit ones dont and there stamped with the kn95. When they cut them open, that layer was missing. At worst they will help, at best its the same as a n95. So 96 percent of particals blocked.
 
Keep the 8210 obviously. You don't know IF you'll get the lighter masks...or when. I ordered some medical masks, and they have shipped, but they still won't be here for almost a month.

We have the masks.

The strange thing is that I see people wearing these things and nobody bats an eye. Last year it really wouldn't have only been people of Asian ancestry, who were doing what might have been common in China, Taiwan, or Hong Kong. Even before the stay at home orders I even saw someone wearing a dual-cartridge respirator like the kind that I've seen used at auto body shops. It's certainly a lot different these days.
 
The other thing too with wearing fabric masks, you can wash them. The N95 or surgical masks can only be worn once, so you will need quite a lot of them.
 
Its the overseas version ,kn95. They were ordered a while ago. Most medical facilities will not use them as they are not osha certified. Some are counterfit, as i suspect my cancled order was last week. They were shipped.
Yep. Although it's a bit unnerving when you're told anything is better than nothing. :eek:
 
If one is so inclined, you can convert old worn out bras into two masks. Instructions and photos easy to find in a google search.
 
The other thing too with wearing fabric masks, you can wash them. The N95 or surgical masks can only be worn once, so you will need quite a lot of them.
That depends. In a medical setting, of course you would toss them after one wearing -- meaning one patient, which is why they are in such huge demand by hospitals. You can't take one Pt's germs to the next -- bad form.

But for normal folks use, especially if you are only wearing the mask once or twice a week, you can reuse them. NO, that is not what is intended, but the coronavirus cannot survive without a host. So if you simply set it aside, the virus will die. We spray the outside of the masks with Lysol and then let them sit for several days.

It is certainly NOT ideal, but you are not gonna be able to get these things for a long time, so you have to make them last.
 
My county is now recommending using a cloth facial covering/mask while doing essential outings to protect OTHERS because it is now suggested that you can be contagious up to 2 days before you start showing symptoms.

Again the face mask is to protect others in case YOU are sick. Not to protect you from getting sick.
 
My county is now recommending using a cloth facial covering/mask while doing essential outings to protect OTHERS because it is now suggested that you can be contagious up to 2 days before you start showing symptoms.

Again the face mask is to protect others in case YOU are sick. Not to protect you from getting sick.
Thats not entirety true, they said that it was mainly for that, and alluded to you didnt need masks so the healthcare industry could get the limited supply. And for good reason, as no one can get them now. The n95 used correctly will stop 95 percent of rhe virus from getting through. Other masks will not. And thats only, if the mask is used and taken off properly. Thats why the nurses and doctors need and ware them.
 
The other thing too with wearing fabric masks, you can wash them. The N95 or surgical masks can only be worn once, so you will need quite a lot of them.

In some hospitals, they started wearing a cloth mask over the N95 face masks. That's how the DIY cloth masks got started. A hospital down south asked a group of volunteer sewers to make some cloth masks. As the fronts of their masks were getting droplets from patients all over them. Then they could wash the cloth masks each night as they had to keep reusing the same N95 masks.

But, if you are practicing social distancing, you shouldn't need a cloth mask on top. People shouldn't be getting that close to be sneezing or wheezing or accidentally aerosolizing droplets on you. :crazy2:
 
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Again the face mask is to protect others in case YOU are sick. Not to protect you from getting sick.
A DIY cloth mask would help keep your sneezing from infecting someone else. Not prevent, but help.

The typical medical mask that dentists and other professionals wear gives protection both ways. It's nowhere near foolproof, but it provides some protection.

Keep in mind, we're picking up bags of grapes, not sheeting a patient from a stretcher to a bed, or bathing them, or drawing blood, or any of the things that healthcare professionals do many times each day.
 
My experience wearing them was during bad air days where it constantly smelled like a campfire no matter where we went. I remember breathing through a properly fitted N95 mask. Maybe it was smell of the material, but it no longer smelled like a campfire.

But yeah these things are difficult to find these days. I have a single 3M 8210 mask and I'm not sure what to do with it. My wife ordered a set of medical style masks. I guess those are designed to just stop droplets in either direction, but it's not like there's a tight fit ensuring that almost all air I breathe passes through the material.
That’s how you know they fit properly... When you can’t smell anything. That’s how healthcare workers are ”fit tested” for them.
 

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