Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[DisFitz]

Have you been? Do you know what level of crowds we are talking about at these parades? This isn’t like Disney. It’s not as crowded as Bourbon street as far as volume, but it’s packed. Not to mention touching stuff thrown off floats, picking stuff up off the ground & then eating & drinking all day with not being able to wash your hands out there. Mardi Gras is actually pretty filthy. Not to mention some of the ppl I’m talking about went to both bars & parades.

We went to Mardi Gras as well and so far either we haven't been sick or we didn't know we were sick. The virus tracing indicates it came in from NYC to Nola. . .we only went to one parade, but we stayed in the FQ and made the rounds to lots of places. . .

 

[DisFitz]

No it wouldn't. Use every other car. Unload car 1, start fogger, then load car 2. At other end they can remove fogger from car 1, load it, unload car 2 and fog it.

Hired!!!

 

[LSUmiss]

Because of air flow any crowded indoor situation presents a better opportunity for transmission than crowded outdoor situation at least according to the studies done so far.

The bars are not really enclosed during Mardi Gras (Or ever) Everything is open. And we were in giant enclosed tents a few times between parades
b/c it was cold or raining with at least 40-50 ppl each time. Maybe we just got lucky. Idk but right or wrong, it has shaped my perspective & the risks I’m willing to take to go places now.

 

[Brianstl]

That sounds way to expensive

It would be. It will probably come down to how the cost would compare to operating extra bus service and how complicated they are willing to get when it comes to operating the system. I still think it will probably not operate, but I am sure they are going to make every attempt to find a way to operate it. It is extremely popular and it is the main selling point for buying Riviera points.

 

[Krandor]

It would be. It will probably come down to how the cost would compare to operating extra bus service and how complicated they are willing to get when it comes to operating the system. I still think it will probably not operate, but I am sure they are going to make every attempt to find a way to operate it. It is extremely popular and it is the main selling point for buying Riviera points.

The skyliner will run since it is easy to social distance but I don't think they are going to sanitize after every party though they could if they wanted. They may just have scheduled times they take it down and sanitize all the cars during the day.

 

[Britty2]

I wonder how long masks will be required for - I understand the need for them, but would prefer to delay our trip until they’re no longer necessary. Though sadly, at this point I guess there’s really no way to know when that will be.

IMO IF they are opened let’s say in July and they are at capacity all days making money with the masks required and things are good with no cases exploding. I feel like they will keep it that way for a while at least until the vaccine is made to the public. Or until it’s proven from another park that no masks isn’t hurting. They won’t be the first or even second to say masks off.

 

[ScubaCat]

IMO IF they are opened let’s say in July and they are at capacity all days making money with the masks required and things are good with no cases exploding. I feel like they will keep it that way for a while at least until the vaccine is made to the public. Or until it’s proven from another park that no masks isn’t hurting. They won’t be the first or even second to say masks off.

There are many factors that contribute to a decision like that. For instance, if domestic infection numbers dropped close enough to zero, or if (when? ) a reliable treatment were discovered and made available, I could see masks being made optional.

The PR of an outbreak originating at a Disney park is a very serious concern. Remember, bad PR affects perception much more than reality. And perception is what drives guests to choose whether or not to visit. This is why so many cancelled due to hurricane Dorian, yet had any simply flown in anyway (or rebooked cancelled flights into Tampa like I did), they might have enjoyed beautiful weather and 10 minute waits for Smuggler's Run and Slinky Dog. But many cancelled, and unlike a hurricane, this is not just a storm that'll be over in a few days if it blows up.

 

[Cfiiitz]

At some point people will have to accept they’re sitting/riding/touching someone else did...

Totally agree with this statement. People examining every little interaction and how it will inconvenience them/endanger them is kinda nuts. When Disney opens it is not going to be the place for people who hold extreme opinions...

Are you going to be mad if you see one child without a face mask? Stay home. Are you going to be mad if you absolutely can’t walk around with a drink and no face mask? Stay home then too.
Are you going to feel unsafe if someone looks though your bag with hands that might have touched something else? This isn’t the place for you. Are you going to push someone who comes in your 6 foot bubble? That’s not nice. Or, will you know it’s probably fine because you’re wearing a mask anyway. Are you scared of the Skyliner because someone else might have sat in it since it was last sanitized? Maybe you need to reschedule or rethink - you can’t really avoid elevators and it’s the same premise.

If you acknowledge the risk, agree to adapt your trip (and expectations) to the rules, wash your hands and stand back from the cashier in the stores - it will be fine!! Perfection is not an achievable standard by Disney or by park goers. Everyone is (hopefully) just doing the best they think they can to keep everyone safe. And if you can’t roll with it avoid the stress and reschedule would be my suggestion.

 

[ryman471]

Totally agree with this statement. People examining every little interaction and how it will inconvenience them/endanger them is kinda nuts. When Disney opens it is not going to be the place for people who hold extreme opinions...

Are you going to be mad if you see one child without a face mask? Stay home. Are you going to be mad if you absolutely can’t walk around with a drink and no face mask? Stay home then too.
Are you going to feel unsafe if someone looks though your bag with hands that might have touched something else? This isn’t the place for you. Are you going to push someone who comes in your 6 foot bubble? That’s not nice. Or, will you know it’s probably fine because you’re wearing a mask anyway. Are you scared of the Skyliner because someone else might have sat in it since it was last sanitized? Maybe you need to reschedule or rethink - you can’t really avoid elevators and it’s the same premise.

If you acknowledge the risk, agree to adapt your trip (and expectations) to the rules, wash your hands and stand back from the cashier in the stores - it will be fine!! Perfection is not an achievable standard by Disney or by park goers. Everyone is (hopefully) just doing the best they think they can to keep everyone safe. And if you can’t roll with it avoid the stress and reschedule would be my suggestion.

But tha

Hah was about to write the exact reply. Also the 80% of people will have their mask off “guaranteed” was great. So many solid statistics on this thread.

LOL watch. I dont say 'off'. i say below their mouth ALOT of the time so it looks like it is on. Dont need data and statistics. This is just common sense what is going to happen in 100 degree heat and 90% humidity when you are on vacation. Just remember, i told you so when it happens and you are mad because you claim they arent protecting you or policing it better

 

[Primeval Princess]

When Disney opens it is not going to be the place for people who hold extreme opinions...Are you going to be mad if you see one child without a face mask? Stay home. Are you going to be mad if you absolutely can’t walk around with a drink and no face mask? Stay home then too... if you can’t roll with it avoid the stress and reschedule would be my suggestion.

I agree with the jist of your argument. The problem for some of us is that we are already financially invested in these trips. I spent thousands of dollars on Platinum APs in 2019 ($1,200 per AP), expecting to take big trips this summer and at Christmas. We already activitated them in December '19 for a 3-day park visit before a cruise. So what now? No, I don't want to "roll with" Disney's new normal. We are from out of state and are not going to fly in and pay through the nose for resort stays for such a limited and restrictive experience. But at the same time, they have our money & there has been no indication from Disney that they plan on refunding anything except the closure period, which will add up to just a few hundred dollars per pass. That would be a big loss for us.

 

[e_yerger]

Wait til 7/8 is definite? I didn’t think there was a date? Now that pisses me off too! There is absolutely no reason for that now. Definitely not for here. This is all just getting absolutely ridiculous now.

He extended the EO an additional 60 days at the beginning of May.

 

[Primeval Princess]

https://www.statesman.com/news/2020...t-single-day-hike-in-coronavirus-deaths-cases

Please keep in mind that Texas has had a very low rate of infections and deaths so far, and has had absolutely no issue with hospital capacity. So an increase, which is to be expected both due to reopening and increased testing, isn't unexpected or a catastrophe.

Of course, numbers are going to go up everywhere with reopening, that's logic. Viruses spread. But reopening is inevitable and cannot wait 1-5 years for a vaccine that might or might not ever come. As long as an area's hospital capacity is adequate, reopening needs to continue. Those most at risk should continue to shelter in place (and our government should support them), but the rest of society needs to get back to work.

 

[WallEFan00]

How did Delta know my reservations were cancelled

I read somewhere that MCO traffic is down 97% since the parks are closed. They can pretty much guarantee that with parks closing, people won’t be traveling. I’m actually surprised there are any flights to Orlando with the parks closed.

 

[rpb718]

Please keep in mind that Texas has had a very low rate of infections and deaths so far, and has had absolutely no issue with hospital capacity. So an increase, which is to be expected both due to reopening and increased testing, isn't a catastrophy.

Of course, numbers are going to go up everywhere with reopening, that's logic. Viruses spread. But reopening is inevitable and cannot wait 1-3 years for a vaccine. As long as an area's hospital capacity is adequate, reopening needs to continue. Those most at risk should continue to shelter in place, but the rest of society needs to get back to work.

So it's just "tough luck" for all the high risk people that need to work?

 

[Primeval Princess]

So it's just "tough luck" for all the high risk people that need to work?

No, our government should continue to support them. That's much more logical and economically responsible than sending random checks to everyone, regardless of risk status, while also forcing everyone to stay home, regardless of risk status.

 

[woody337]

So it's just "tough luck" for all the high risk people that need to work?

So whats your solution then?

 

[Sandiz08]

Texas is a very large state, with a lot of people living in it. The resources are fine, so the governor is reopening much like Desantis is doing for Florida.

 

[lilypgirl]

So it's just "tough luck" for all the high risk people that need to work?

If you are high risk you absolutely should not be working and that is a suggestion in every single reopening plan from the federal government to the states. I for one would rather all of this funding taking place be given to those LEGIT at risk people so they can stay home and the rest of us who fall into that over 98% recovery rate can go back to life as scheduled.

 

[Primeval Princess]

I read somewhere that MCO traffic is down 97% since the parks are closed... I’m actually surprised there are any flights to Orlando with the parks closed.

Well, some people do live and work there...

 

[JayhawkCruiser]

Do you have any information on this as being factual that you can link ? I haven't heard that any of the states that opened like GA and FL are dealing with mass casualties or even an increase of hospitalizations so I am really curious to where this number is coming from .

Strictly speaking about data post reopening - it’s too early to tell. For FL specifically, the earliest we’d see any reopening statistics show up would be Monday as it’s been two weeks at that point, but most likely it’ll take longer than that since many restaurants and retail stores that were open remained empty until the weekend - at least here Orange County that seemed to be the theme.