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Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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I suspect Disney blanket cancelled all ADRs made through them so anyone who still intends to go to DS during this time should contact the restaurant direct.
I rebooked last night for August and the CM told me to make sure to cancel my ADR for june1-6. I told her I already got emails saying that they were canceled. 🤷‍♀️
 
Strictly speaking about data post reopening - it’s too early to tell. For FL specifically, the earliest we’d see any reopening statistics show up would be Monday as it’s been two weeks at that point, but most likely it’ll take longer than that since many restaurants and retail stores that were open remained empty until the weekend - at least here Orange County that seemed to be the theme.
DeSantis will speak today and he said yesterday he will give new guidelines to move forward (he didn't use Phase 2) that will be implemented Monday
 
So whats your solution then?

I don't have a solution. I just read posts about folks just wanting their lives to go back to normal and started thinking about all the high risk folks they want to leave behind and forget. What kind of life is that? And for how long? Hard to advance at your job when you aren't working. And it depends on how much they were making vs. how much they are being supplemented. Subsidies may not be enough. And will their job still be there when it's decided they can go back?
 
There are many factors that contribute to a decision like that. For instance, if domestic infection numbers dropped close enough to zero, or if (when? 🤞) a reliable treatment were discovered and made available, I could see masks being made optional.

I also will be curious to see what the feedback on CMs wearing them are come summer heat and humidity, more so the ones that are outside the whole. Its one thing to push for them but how many of them have worn one all day in heat and humidity yet?
 
DeSantis will speak today and he said yesterday he will give new guidelines to move forward (he didn't use Phase 2) that will be implemented Monday

Most governors seem to advance their next steps on Friday for Monday. My assumptions are their logic is once they announce people will just start doing that immediately anyhow, so the less notice they give them the better. I think the most interesting advance is that arenas can go from 0% all the way to 50% in phase 2. a huge leap in my mind. But it also opens the door for theme parks to open in the same style that SDL did. "you said 50%...we'll only do x% to be even more cautious"
 
Totally agree with this statement. People examining every little interaction and how it will inconvenience them/endanger them is kinda nuts. When Disney opens it is not going to be the place for people who hold extreme opinions...

Are you going to be mad if you see one child without a face mask? Stay home. Are you going to be mad if you absolutely can’t walk around with a drink and no face mask? Stay home then too.
Are you going to feel unsafe if someone looks though your bag with hands that might have touched something else? This isn’t the place for you. Are you going to push someone who comes in your 6 foot bubble? That’s not nice. Or, will you know it’s probably fine because you’re wearing a mask anyway. Are you scared of the Skyliner because someone else might have sat in it since it was last sanitized? Maybe you need to reschedule or rethink - you can’t really avoid elevators and it’s the same premise.

If you acknowledge the risk, agree to adapt your trip (and expectations) to the rules, wash your hands and stand back from the cashier in the stores - it will be fine!! Perfection is not an achievable standard by Disney or by park goers. Everyone is (hopefully) just doing the best they think they can to keep everyone safe. And if you can’t roll with it avoid the stress and reschedule would be my suggestion.

I like this post so much I liked it before I finished reading it!

People CAN and SHOULD expect a much greater level of sanitation from Disney, but, ultimately, you are responsible for yourself. Carry hand sanitizer and USE IT OFTEN! I am an essential worker in a residential center for developmentally disabled adults. They cannot wear masks. We all wear them. But we are hands on, touching them constantly. After they are touched by other employees. We have sanitizer dispensers mounted everywhere and use it all day long. We have eliminated all outside visitors and employees get their temperature taken and fill out a questionnaire every day before entry to the buildings. Even with all these safeguards in place, we know it is on US to sanitize ourselves, literally every time you touch something that someone else has touched. And don't touch your face.

I have a trip booked end of June/beginning of July that I am fine with taking. Because I sanitize constantly. I know it won't be like every other trip and am ok with that because we go often. I understand everyone's situation is different (like having kids to worry about constantly!) and if you are not ok with that, it probably isn't the best time for you to go (and that sucks, agreed!).
 
DeSantis will speak today and he said yesterday he will give new guidelines to move forward (he didn't use Phase 2) that will be implemented Monday

From what I read sounds like he will add gyms in and finish up phase 1 the task force recommended. Which would expand retail/dining to 50% and allow movie theaters/auditoriums/theaters top open with 50% and strict procedures.
 
From what I read sounds like he will add gyms in and finish up phase 1 the task force recommended. Which would expand retail/dining to 50% and allow movie theaters/auditoriums/theaters top open with 50% and strict procedures.
I'm monitoring his twitter to see what time he'll talk
Someone on the task force gave a good idea about gyms, for people to make reservations to go and that way the gym can control the amount of people without having to turn anyone away
Retail and dining need to expand soon, they are mostly losing money at 25%
 
Do you feel that Phase 2 is soon?

A couple of business people I know in Florida have said to me the word privately through the grapevine is that they're shooting for Memorial Day weekend for phase 2.

I don't have a solution. I just read posts about folks just wanting their lives to go back to normal and started thinking about all the high risk folks they want to leave behind and forget. What kind of life is that? And for how long? Hard to advance at your job when you aren't working. And it depends on how much they were making vs. how much they are being supplemented. Subsidies may not be enough. And will their job still be there when it's decided they can go back?

The point I've been trying to make forever is that people have to make decisions for themselves. There is no perfect solution, which is why people are all over the place with the response to this. But at the same time, making everyone else stay home because a small segment of the population is "high risk" to this is simply not functional to society. But because people want to move forward doesn't mean they want to "leave behind and forget"...lets get real. My parents - both of whom would be "high risk" to this disease, based on the metrics - have said to me personally to not be afraid of coming to their home to see them, or bringing their grandkids to come see them. It would devastate them to not be able to see us or my kids, and it would devastate our kids to be able to not see grandma and grandpa. The amount of emotional devastation alone for all parties outweighs any 'risk' towards perhaps catching or transmitting a virus.

You're not going to legislate risk out of life. Every part of life involves risk. And you're not going to invent ways for people to avoid illness. This is why I've been saying we need to learn to live with this, not keep doing everything we can to avoid it. People who are "high risk" to this need to make decisions for themselves, and some of those decisions may be hard ones. Maybe they'll have to accept a level of risk to return to work. Maybe they'll need to find a different job that is lower risk to their health. Tens of millions of Americans are going to have to find new jobs out of no fault of their own from this, and they're NOT 'high risk'.
 
I'm monitoring his twitter to see what time he'll talk
Someone on the task force gave a good idea about gyms, for people to make reservations to go and that way the gym can control the amount of people without having to turn anyone away
Retail and dining need to expand soon, they are mostly losing money at 25%

Reservations seem like the most organized way to control crowds for all restaurants/gyms/activities - I hope we see that as a sweeping trend across our country.
 
Disney is not confirming guests will be required to wear a mask yet. There has not been one Company person announce that yet. If they require it, it is just a PR move because they will not be worn right by majority of the people so if you decide to go if they decide to require guests, dont be all warm and fuzzy inside because your risk will be reduced on getting the corona virus because majority of people will have their mask wrapped around their chin most of the day. Carry hand sanitizer and clean hands constantly, sneaze/cough in arm, keep distances and dont go if older or immune deficient but that would make too much sense and not feed into the fear mongering ;)
 
Strictly speaking about data post reopening - it’s too early to tell. For FL specifically, the earliest we’d see any reopening statistics show up would be Monday as it’s been two weeks at that point, but most likely it’ll take longer than that since many restaurants and retail stores that were open remained empty until the weekend - at least here Orange County that seemed to be the theme.
Just two more weeks ;)
 
Strictly speaking about data post reopening - it’s too early to tell. For FL specifically, the earliest we’d see any reopening statistics show up would be Monday as it’s been two weeks at that point, but most likely it’ll take longer than that since many restaurants and retail stores that were open remained empty until the weekend - at least here Orange County that seemed to be the theme.
Just take the state connected to florida, Georgia. They open alot of stuff way before anyone and took alot of crap for it. Have they had some big increase or outbreak? Nope. I dont think Georgia has special alien bodies to be more immune so I am sure this will be the trend.
 
I'm monitoring his twitter to see what time he'll talk
Someone on the task force gave a good idea about gyms, for people to make reservations to go and that way the gym can control the amount of people without having to turn anyone away
Retail and dining need to expand soon, they are mostly losing money at 25%

I am ready for them to say when auditoriums can open so my daughters dance studio can lock in a recital date/time.
 
I know some of us have said that perhaps Disney is waiting for Phase 2 so much less restrictions and the ability to have more people fill the parks (more people = more money). If they are moving in that direction, I hope they will, at the very least, allow some of us to re-book in June for the days originally booked if they decide to open. I was thinking about it last night and feel like it’s kind of lousy to cancel an entire trip when many days go into the next supposed cancellation week.

To add insult to injury the fast passes are still sitting there for the week that isn’t cancelled yet and the resort reservation isn’t cancelled. I’m not going to move or cancel it either, just going to see what happens.
 
Just take the state connected to florida, Georgia. They open alot of stuff way before anyone and took alot of crap for it. Have they had some big increase or outbreak? Nope. I dont think Georgia has special alien bodies to be more immune so I am sure this will be the trend.
There’s a lot of nuance to all of this though. Population density matters, a lot. Mostly though, there’s still a majority of the population in states that have reopened that are choosing to stay home and not visit restaurants and other businesses now reopened, so a spike in cases isn’t likely but we can’t just say “see it’s a success” as a result.
 
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