Especially since the film in question has absolutely 0 aspects that could be interpreted as political. Unless a king refusing to grant wishes for selfish reasons counts??Seriously, why can't we have 1 thread were we can talk about the quality of a movie that doesn't end up with ppl blaming politics, saying that only money matters and/or making racist/homophobic comments???
I do not think it matters at all except it appears it gets put before telling a good story often. When Ghostbusters 2016 came out it was front and center that the casting choices were important and groundbreaking. They forgot to make a good movie though and it failed to meet fan expectations. Get the story right period!If you don't think a diverse cast is a bad thing, then why are you always bringing up as downfall for these movies. I mean, you are right - it shouldn't matter, but it apparently does to you. The story is independent of the casting, etc. Wish is in fact a very good movie - maybe not Renaissance-era great, but it's enjoyable for sure. In fact, it does all the things that you are always saying they need to do - get back to the roots, etc. They did that in spades. The story may as well have been written in 1958! Maybe that's what audiences are not responding to, though that flies in the face of what you are usually in favor of.
I do not think it matters at all except it appears it gets put before telling a good story often. When Ghostbusters 2016 came out it was front and center that the casting choices were important and groundbreaking. They forgot to make a good movie though and it failed to meet fan expectations. Get the story right period!
Black panther had more of a minority cast than any marvel movie ever and it did great right? Why? It had a great story that the audience wanted to watch right?
please tell me you understand how box office returns work.But do you think that GB 2016 would have been better if they had cast differently? Chances are it would have been the same. Your perception is that they are spending resources on diversity that are somehow taken away from story, but one doesn't really have anything to do with the other.
On top of that, a "good story" does not necessarily mean strong performance. I really hate to tell you this, but GB 2016 made more than Afterlife. Not by a ton mind you, but it still did. Both weren't exactly considered to be big hits.
please tell me you understand how box office returns work.
Ghostbusters Afterlife = $204.4M box office minus $75M budget. So if you assume 50% box office return the movie made approximately $27.2 M not including marketing.
Ghostbusters 2016 = $229.1M box office minus $144M budget. So if you assume 50% box office return the movie lost $29.5 M not including marketing.
One was a financial success and one cost the studio money.
Come on man, I know you are way too intelligent a dude to miss that.
The story in Wish wasn't bad but rather it was boring and derivative of Disney movies that came before it. Whether you think that's bad is a whole other discussion.I guess I am confused on this good story narrative. Raya and the last Dragon, Encanto, Soul, Luca, Turning Red all had good stories. Come to think of it what animated movie had a bad story. You keep stating the most overused buzz words but are not actually providing anything constructive to the discussion.
I have not seen Wish but really that was the first movie that was the first animated movie by Pixar or WDAS that was received in a more negative light and it is the first movie, by your standards, that has no offensive materials within it. Every other animation was either highly receive or mixed.
It's also incredibly subjective. To me, Wish has a good story, to others it doesn't. To others, Quentin Tarantino movies have good stories, to me they don't (with few exceptions). It's all about personal taste.I guess I am confused on this good story narrative. Raya and the last Dragon, Encanto, Soul, Luca, Turning Red all had good stories. Come to think of it what animated movie had a bad story. You keep stating the most overused buzz words but are not actually providing anything constructive to the discussion.
I have not seen Wish but really that was the first movie that was the first animated movie by Pixar or WDAS that was received in a more negative light and it is the first movie, by your standards, that has no offensive materials within it. Every other animation was either highly receive or mixed.
I agree that what you and I think is a good story is very subjective. But if Disney is winning at the box office is not subjective. They have had a record number of flops this year. That has been for a variety of reason, with streaming being one, inflated production budgets being another, losing the good will of their past customers being another.
I want Disney to pivot and make great content for the largest possible audience.
Fully agree with you.I don’t think their content has necessarily been bad or made for a small audience though. They just haven’t made anything stellar. Something you have to see at the theater because you don’t want to miss out. Something that has a song not only stuck in your head but everyone’s head. A movie that has that “it” factor. They need to find that to have success again in the movie theater. That will transcend any of the highlighted reasons that are given for “why” some of these movies are disappointing. Disney studios have to go back, rethink their hiring processes when it comes to all aspects of the movie making process (because something is not working).
With us it was mainly 30 something women dressing up for Barbie. It really was a night out and an experience.
And you are right, Disney didn't have many movies out that sparked FOMO.
I came across this article today, has some thoughts on what is going on. https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/nov/28/disney-box-office-wish-the-marvels