34-Year-Old Man Who Died After Getting Coronavirus Had Visited Disney World

[freshmanjs]

The point is that all the articles only listing Disney as the place he got it are pandering for clicks and it’s not wise to just associate Disney with this case when chances are he got it at the airport or his work conference, and those details are being largely ignored which is dangerous for anyone he may have come into contact with at his conference or anywhere else really.

The articles aren't saying or implying that he *got* it at WDW. They are saying that he spread it at WDW. The timeline for that makes 100% sense.

 

[jbehr12]

The articles aren't saying or implying that he *got* it at WDW. They are saying that he spread it at WDW. The timeline for that makes 100% sense.

Quite a few are actually. Just google it and read some of the headlines, it’s pretty blatant. The one that OP posted was pretty fair though.

 

[jbehr12]

The article posted never says he contracted covid-19 from wdw. It gives the full timeline including the days he was at the park. Are you reading other articles that are specifically stating he caught it at WDW? Or are you just referring to comments people are making because they can’t read???

Both lol, the headlines are the worst and most people don’t read further than that unfortunately.

 

[Rounder]

Does anyone know which day he went to Magic Kingdom and if that's the only Disney Park he visited? (I saw a photo where he's at MK but haven't actually seen any article saying which days he was where.)

 

[SaintsManiac]

Does anyone know which day he went to Magic Kingdom and if that's the only Disney Park he visited? (I saw a photo where he's at MK but haven't actually seen any article saying which days he was where.)

Does it matter? Do you think he was the only person with the virus there?

 

[Rounder]

Does it matter? Do you think he was the only person with the virus there?

Can I get information without criticism or judgement? Thank you

 

[rteetz]

Can I get information without criticism or judgement? Thank you

There is no information. I don’t understand the need for it either. In order to really track whether someone came in contact with him you would need to know his entire itinerary. You also don’t know if there were other people there on these days that were infected. We don’t know where he got infected either. It could’ve been at an airport, hotel, plane, disney, or anywhere. Knowing what park he was at which day doesn’t help anything out.

 

[SaintsManiac]

Can I get information without criticism or judgement? Thank you

I am not criticizing or judging. Asking an honest question.

 

[only hope]

Does anyone know which day he went to Magic Kingdom and if that's the only Disney Park he visited? (I saw a photo where he's at MK but haven't actually seen any article saying which days he was where.)

The article says he went into the hospital on March 9. That’ll be two weeks ago tomorrow that he was no longer in public infecting people. The article doesn’t say exactly when he went to the parks but it was probably before the 9th, which means everyone who was around him at the parks is past the two week period when symptoms would develop.

 

[Yarbogash]

After reading different news articles, some thoughts on this:
1. The details, timeline and travel info are all based on the family's Facebook posts. I can find no independent confirmation of any of this. The hospital confirmed a death from the virus on that day of a person of similar age and home location but gave no other details. So we don't really know much of anything at this point. Otherwise no officials have commented on any of this afaik.
2. We don't know where the conference was. Don't know if it was on property or not.
3. The parks were open for two days after he was diagnosed. But that's based on the timeline from the family FB posts. So we don't know how reliable that time line was. We don't know how soon anyone notified Disney or if they were notified at all before closure.

So unless somebody finds other info that's all we got. Imho Disney should be commenting on this. Their silence on this and the closure dates has been ridiculous.

 

[rteetz]

After reading different news articles, some thoughts on this:
1. The details, timeline and travel info are all based on the family's Facebook posts. I can find no independent confirmation of any of this. The hospital confirmed a death from the virus on that day of a person of similar age and home location but gave no other details. So we don't really know much of anything at this point. Otherwise no officials have commented on any of this afaik.
2. We don't know where the conference was. Don't know if it was on property or not.
3. The parks were open for two days after he was diagnosed. But that's based on the timeline from the family FB posts. So we don't know how reliable that time line was. We don't know how soon anyone notified Disney or if they were notified at all before closure.

So unless somebody finds other info that's all we got. Imho Disney should be commenting on this. Their silence on this and the closure dates has been ridiculous.

They released a statement. What more can they do? They didn’t cause the death. Not trying to be rude or mean to the family in this difficult time but like it’s been said before it could’ve happened at the conference he was at or anywhere for that matter.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

After reading different news articles, some thoughts on this:
1. The details, timeline and travel info are all based on the family's Facebook posts. I can find no independent confirmation of any of this. The hospital confirmed a death from the virus on that day of a person of similar age and home location but gave no other details. So we don't really know much of anything at this point. Otherwise no officials have commented on any of this afaik.
2. We don't know where the conference was. Don't know if it was on property or not.
3. The parks were open for two days after he was diagnosed. But that's based on the timeline from the family FB posts. So we don't know how reliable that time line was. We don't know how soon anyone notified Disney or if they were notified at all before closure.

So unless somebody finds other info that's all we got. Imho Disney should be commenting on this. Their silence on this and the closure dates has been ridiculous.

It really doesn’t matter. Disney doesn’t need to confirm where and when this man could have been. The lack of testing and nature of this virus means he was very likely not the only person walking around WDW possibly infecting others. THAT is what people need to know, that any gathering has the potential to get them or a loved one sick and pass this on, not that they should be alerted anytime a positive case was in a public place.

For every confirmed positive walking around in public there are countless unknown cases. People who travelled to Disney in the days before closure should have been monitoring themselves for symptoms and staying home as much as possibly regardless, because we should all be doing that.

 

[Yarbogash]

It really doesn’t matter. Disney doesn’t need to confirm where and when this man could have been. The lack of testing and nature of this virus means he was very likely not the only person walking around WDW possibly infecting others. THAT is what people need to know, that any gathering has the potential to get them or a loved one sick and pass this on, not that they should be alerted anytime a positive case was in a public place.

For every confirmed positive walking around in public there are countless unknown cases. People who travelled to Disney in the days before closure should have been monitoring themselves for symptoms and staying home as much as possibly regardless, because we should all be doing that.

I completely disagree with it not mattering. Agree with your overall analysis but not on the lack of need for any statement. For starters clarity on where the conference was, when he attended, where he stayed, all could be very helpful to people. Around here every conference or event where attendees have been determined to be infected the responsible parties have been communicating with the public. So this falls on the local health authority, the conference hosts (who may or may not be Disney, we don't know) and the hotel (if he was at a hotel). This fits the WHO and CDC aims to identify transmission, warn people as needed to quarantine. So somebody should be saying something.
And regarding him visiting the parks, if it's confirmed imho the responsible thing to do would be for Disney to make a public statement on that and underscoring all of the basic precautions. Because guaranteed a lot of Disney fans, especially those that packed the parks for the two days after the closure announcement, seem to not get it.
And if this is all bs, mistaken timeline or whatever, be helpful for somebody to comment on that too and at least set the record straight, assuage some fears. I agree with your overall assessment of the situation and Disney could do well to get that info out but the rub I guess would be it could acknowledge their own previous inaction.

 

[Yarbogash]

They released a statement. What more can they do? They didn’t cause the death. Not trying to be rude or mean to the family in this difficult time but like it’s been said before it could’ve happened at the conference he was at or anywhere for that matter.

They did? Specifically regarding this case? Looked but did not see it. If they did please post a link. Ty!

 

[Krandor]

I completely disagree with it not mattering. Agree with your overall analysis but not on the lack of need for any statement. For starters clarity on where the conference was, when he attended, where he stayed, all could be very helpful to people. Around here every conference or event where attendees have been determined to be infected the responsible parties have been communicating with the public. So this falls on the local health authority, the conference hosts (who may or may not be Disney, we don't know) and the hotel (if he was at a hotel). This fits the WHO and CDC aims to identify transmission, warn people as needed to quarantine. So somebody should be saying something.

I have no doubt the conference and the hotel have been notified and the people who need to know have been informed.

And disney HAS released a statement.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1240785331554828291

I don't know it seems a bit disrespectful to the family to be posting a timeline of the last week of his life in the public for everybody to read. We are not doing that with every victim of covid.

 

[Yarbogash]

I have no doubt the conference and the hotel have been notified and the people who need to know have been informed.

And disney HAS released a statement.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1240785331554828291

I don't know it seems a bit disrespectful to the family to be posting a timeline of the last week of his life in the public for everybody to read. We are not doing that with every victim of covid.

Thanks, was just coming back to post I found it. Statement of condolences. Nice but completely uninformative.

Note the timeline was originally published by the family on Facebook and shared with the public.

But this is surreal. No info in the statement from Disney(?). The statement from the Florida health authority:
'A spokesperson for the Florida Joint Information Center on COVID-19 also couldn’t comment on the circumstances surrounding the man’s visit to Florida or when he contracted the virus.

“If the individual is a California resident, this would be a California case and would be under California’s jurisdiction,” they said in an email.

“Florida is taking all necessary precautions to keep Floridians safe and healthy. This includes ordering an additional 2,500 test kits to prepare for potential testing surge, installing four drive-thru testing sites to test healthcare workers, first responders and those older than 65 and issuing an Executive Order to limit mass gatherings in bars, restaurants and beaches," according to that statement. '


Repeat what I said earlier,
Around here every conference or event where attendees have been determined to be infected the responsible parties have been communicating with the public. So this falls on the local health authority, the conference hosts (who may or may not be Disney, we don't know) and the hotel (if he was at a hotel). This fits the WHO and CDC aims to identify transmission, warn people as needed to quarantine. So somebody should be saying something.
The one conference I was involved in where somebody turned out to be sick our public health officer was on tv and twitter warning people. But in Florida, 'If the individual is a California resident, this would be a California case and would be under California’s jurisdiction.'
Again, hopefully I'm missing something.

 

[rteetz]

Thanks, was just coming back to post I found it. Statement of condolences. Nice but completely uninformative.

Note the timeline was originally published by the family on Facebook and shared with the public.

But this is surreal. No info in the statement from Disney(?). The statement from the Florida health authority:
'A spokesperson for the Florida Joint Information Center on COVID-19 also couldn’t comment on the circumstances surrounding the man’s visit to Florida or when he contracted the virus.

“If the individual is a California resident, this would be a California case and would be under California’s jurisdiction,” they said in an email.

“Florida is taking all necessary precautions to keep Floridians safe and healthy. This includes ordering an additional 2,500 test kits to prepare for potential testing surge, installing four drive-thru testing sites to test healthcare workers, first responders and those older than 65 and issuing an Executive Order to limit mass gatherings in bars, restaurants and beaches," according to that statement. '


Repeat what I said earlier,
Around here every conference or event where attendees have been determined to be infected the responsible parties have been communicating with the public. So this falls on the local health authority, the conference hosts (who may or may not be Disney, we don't know) and the hotel (if he was at a hotel). This fits the WHO and CDC aims to identify transmission, warn people as needed to quarantine. So somebody should be saying something.
The one conference I was involved in where somebody turned out to be sick our public health officer was on tv and twitter warning people. But in Florida, 'If the individual is a California resident, this would be a California case and would be under California’s jurisdiction.'
Again, hopefully I'm missing something.

I just don’t understand why disney need to do more than what they did. They are not liable. Like we’ve said he could’ve got it anywhere and any others could’ve had it at WDW. Why do we need to know everything about this one person?

 

[choirfarm]

It doesn't matter anyway. I can almost guarantee you he was not the only one at the Disney park who was infectious over the last couple of weeks. If you went, you are exposed. You will know in 2 weeks if you have symptoms. Anytime you interact with anyone in public right now, you might be exposed. With asymptomatic people, who knows.

 

[SaintsManiac]

It doesn't matter anyway. I can almost guarantee you he was not the only one at the Disney park who was infectious over the last couple of weeks. If you went, you are exposed. You will know in 2 weeks if you have symptoms. Anytime you interact with anyone in public right now, you might be exposed. With asymptomatic people, who knows.

Thank you. I was at Mardi Gras in New Orleans! It is now known that people had it there. We are in the clear now, since it was almost a month ago. I have a friend who has been sick for 2 weeks now. It's literally a crapshoot if you were in big crowds the past month or so.

 

[Krandor]

Thanks, was just coming back to post I found it. Statement of condolences. Nice but completely uninformative.

Note the timeline was originally published by the family on Facebook and shared with the public.

But this is surreal. No info in the statement from Disney(?). The statement from the Florida health authority:
'A spokesperson for the Florida Joint Information Center on COVID-19 also couldn’t comment on the circumstances surrounding the man’s visit to Florida or when he contracted the virus.

“If the individual is a California resident, this would be a California case and would be under California’s jurisdiction,” they said in an email.

“Florida is taking all necessary precautions to keep Floridians safe and healthy. This includes ordering an additional 2,500 test kits to prepare for potential testing surge, installing four drive-thru testing sites to test healthcare workers, first responders and those older than 65 and issuing an Executive Order to limit mass gatherings in bars, restaurants and beaches," according to that statement. '


Repeat what I said earlier,
Around here every conference or event where attendees have been determined to be infected the responsible parties have been communicating with the public. So this falls on the local health authority, the conference hosts (who may or may not be Disney, we don't know) and the hotel (if he was at a hotel). This fits the WHO and CDC aims to identify transmission, warn people as needed to quarantine. So somebody should be saying something.
The one conference I was involved in where somebody turned out to be sick our public health officer was on tv and twitter warning people. But in Florida, 'If the individual is a California resident, this would be a California case and would be under California’s jurisdiction.'
Again, hopefully I'm missing something.

I have seen some conference names mentioned but never seen for any other case any names of hotels, etc. I'm just not sure what information you want disney to give. Do you want them to publish "he arrived at magic kingdom at 8:32 through turnstyle 14 (see attached map) and had FPs for 7DMT at 9:42 and chcked in at 10:15 and then ....."? I just don't see any need for that level of information. Even on the confernces you mentioned I've seen no more information then an infected person was at the confrence. No detailed itenrery of what sessions they attended when. So for disney we have the same amount of information - he visitied disney and US.

Just don't know what level of information you expect and why you expect it from disney on this guy and not on any other.